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Michael Carey
 

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How many people have experience with PIC's, I am looking to share code snippets with other people. Also if people have unique or interesting projects using PIC's I would be interested in knowing of them. I have my own PIC resource page - it generally deals with the Dick Smith PIC programmer and testbed, here is the url:
If you have a webpage on a PIC project or resources I would be interested in throwing in a link to it especially if it is a cool project or has similar value.
Cheers Michael C
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d nixon
 

There is a ton of stuff for PICs online. There's also a PIC group on Yahoo.

-Mike



From: "Michael Carey" <mpc@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Subject: [Electronics_101] PIC resources
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:51:35 +1100

How many people have experience with PIC's, I am looking to share code snippets with other people. Also if people have unique or interesting projects using PIC's I would be interested in knowing of them. I have my own PIC resource page - it generally deals with the Dick Smith PIC programmer and testbed, here is the url:

If you have a webpage on a PIC project or resources I would be interested in throwing in a link to it especially if it is a cool project or has similar value.
Cheers Michael C

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Mounir Shita
 

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Hi Michael,
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I have some years experience with PIC.Actually 5-6 years to be exact. I've built quite a few projects. My biggest was my senior project at college 3-4 years ago when I built a speech recognition system with a PIC16 and a PIC17. Worked okay, only got 70% recognition rate. Also built tons of small projects. Right now I'm playing with a robot I'm gonna squeeze a PIC18F to do some simple navigation.
?
Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Carey [mailto:mpc@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 9:52 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: [Electronics_101] PIC resources

How many people have experience with PIC's, I am looking to share code snippets with other people. Also if people have unique or interesting projects using PIC's I would be interested in knowing of them. I have my own PIC resource page - it generally deals with the Dick Smith PIC programmer and testbed, here is the url:
If you have a webpage on a PIC project or resources I would be interested in throwing in a link to it especially if it is a cool project or has similar value.
Cheers Michael C
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I have been involved with PIC programming for several years. ?I have wrote code for several projects at work mostly dealing with motor and actuator controls, as well as, some test equipment. ?

My latest project is for a motor controller for NASA. The heart of the controller is a PIC17C756A. My controller drives a brushless DC motor and controls it's speed. ?My controller also monitors the motors speed, current, and temperature. This data is sent to a PC via a RS-232 interface. Commands for speed, as well as, current and temperature limits, can be sent to the controller from a PC via the RS-232 interface as well. Also these limits are stored on an EEPROM, which requires separate serial communications. The baud rates for the RS-232 communications are variable, based on separate signals sent to the controller. There is also a separate enable/disable for the motor. ?Current and temperature is monitored using the PICs A/D convertor.

I have a web page, below is a link to my home page, from there you can get the link to my PIC programming page.


 

In a message dated 10/29/01 1:47:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, mshita@... writes:


I have some years experience with PIC.Actually 5-6 years to be exact. I've built quite a few projects. My biggest was my senior project at college 3-4 years ago when I built a speech recognition system with a PIC16 and a PIC17. Worked okay, only got 70% recognition rate. Also built tons of small projects. Right now I'm playing with a robot I'm gonna squeeze a PIC18F to do some simple navigation.


I did not know that Microchip had released any of the PIC18F series yet. ?All I have seen are listed as Future Products.


 

How do you compare the PIC17 family to the PIC18 family? I only used PIC17 once before PIC18 was introduced. But on my current project I was comparing PIC17 and PIC18. I honestly couldn't find any reason why Microchip still made the PIC17 series. PIC18 is way better and about the same price.

Am I missing something ? Do you have good experience with PIC17?


When we started this project I had intended to use separate PWM outputs to each of the three phases of the motor, therefore I needed three PWM outputs. The PIC17C756A was the best choice available with 3 PWM outputs. ?Later, changes were made to the motor and controller and I no longer needed separate PWM outputs. ?If I had known this earlier I would have used a PIC18 series chip. ?

The PIC17 series was the next logical step for Microchip to take at the time they developed it. I believe it was just a step along the way to the PIC18. Microchip still supports this family, even though the PIC18 is a much better choice if you need more power than the PIC16 which is much cheaper, because of their policy of whenever possible always supporting past lines. They do this to prove to their potential customers that they will not be hung out to dry because of discontinued or obsoleted parts.


 


Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its 16
bit and much faster.



From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive. However at present time I think I will have little use for it at work. ?But I might play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.


Mounir Shita
 

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How do you compare the PIC17 family to the PIC18 family? I only used PIC17 once before PIC18 was introduced. But on my current project I was comparing PIC17 and PIC18. I honestly couldn't find any reason why Microchip still made the PIC17 series. PIC18 is way better and about the same price.
?
Am I missing something ? Do you have good experience with PIC17?
?
Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: aseesf4@... [mailto:aseesf4@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:25 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] PIC resources

I have been involved with PIC programming for several years. ?I have wrote code for several projects at work mostly dealing with motor and actuator controls, as well as, some test equipment. ?

My latest project is for a motor controller for NASA. The heart of the controller is a PIC17C756A. My controller drives a brushless DC motor and controls it's speed. ?My controller also monitors the motors speed, current, and temperature. This data is sent to a PC via a RS-232 interface. Commands for speed, as well as, current and temperature limits, can be sent to the controller from a PC via the RS-232 interface as well. Also these limits are stored on an EEPROM, which requires separate serial communications. The baud rates for the RS-232 communications are variable, based on separate signals sent to the controller. There is also a separate enable/disable for the motor. ?Current and temperature is monitored using the PICs A/D convertor.

I have a web page, below is a link to my home page, from there you can get the link to my PIC programming page.


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Mounir Shita
 

Something got screwed up here. The message below was sent by me,
Mounir and not aseesf4@....

Mounir

--- In Electronics_101@y..., aseesf4@a... wrote:
How do you compare the PIC17 family to the PIC18 family? I only
used PIC17
once before PIC18 was introduced. But on my current project I was
comparing
PIC17 and PIC18. I honestly couldn't find any reason why Microchip
still made
the PIC17 series. PIC18 is way better and about the same price.

Am I missing something ? Do you have good experience with PIC17?


When we started this project I had intended to use separate PWM
outputs to
each of the three phases of the motor, therefore I needed three PWM
outputs.
The PIC17C756A was the best choice available with 3 PWM outputs.
Later,
changes were made to the motor and controller and I no longer
needed separate
PWM outputs. If I had known this earlier I would have used a PIC18
series
chip.

The PIC17 series was the next logical step for Microchip to take at
the time
they developed it. I believe it was just a step along the way to
the PIC18.
Microchip still supports this family, even though the PIC18 is a
much better
choice if you need more power than the PIC16 which is much cheaper,
because
of their policy of whenever possible always supporting past lines.
They do
this to prove to their potential customers that they will not be
hung out to
dry because of discontinued or obsoleted parts.


Mounir Shita
 

I take my last message back. I just read the top of it and it looked
like my post. Thought something went wrong somewhere :)

Sorry.....................

Mounir


--- In Electronics_101@y..., aseesf4@a... wrote:
How do you compare the PIC17 family to the PIC18 family? I only
used PIC17
once before PIC18 was introduced. But on my current project I was
comparing
PIC17 and PIC18. I honestly couldn't find any reason why Microchip
still made
the PIC17 series. PIC18 is way better and about the same price.

Am I missing something ? Do you have good experience with PIC17?


When we started this project I had intended to use separate PWM
outputs to
each of the three phases of the motor, therefore I needed three PWM
outputs.
The PIC17C756A was the best choice available with 3 PWM outputs.
Later,
changes were made to the motor and controller and I no longer
needed separate
PWM outputs. If I had known this earlier I would have used a PIC18
series
chip.

The PIC17 series was the next logical step for Microchip to take at
the time
they developed it. I believe it was just a step along the way to
the PIC18.
Microchip still supports this family, even though the PIC18 is a
much better
choice if you need more power than the PIC16 which is much cheaper,
because
of their policy of whenever possible always supporting past lines.
They do
this to prove to their potential customers that they will not be
hung out to
dry because of discontinued or obsoleted parts.


Mounir Shita
 

If I understood Microchip right, then there is no further development
of the 17-family, right?

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its 16
bit and much faster.

Mounir


--- In Electronics_101@y..., aseesf4@a... wrote:
How do you compare the PIC17 family to the PIC18 family? I only
used PIC17
once before PIC18 was introduced. But on my current project I was
comparing
PIC17 and PIC18. I honestly couldn't find any reason why Microchip
still made
the PIC17 series. PIC18 is way better and about the same price.

Am I missing something ? Do you have good experience with PIC17?


When we started this project I had intended to use separate PWM
outputs to
each of the three phases of the motor, therefore I needed three PWM
outputs.
The PIC17C756A was the best choice available with 3 PWM outputs.
Later,
changes were made to the motor and controller and I no longer
needed separate
PWM outputs. If I had known this earlier I would have used a PIC18
series
chip.

The PIC17 series was the next logical step for Microchip to take at
the time
they developed it. I believe it was just a step along the way to
the PIC18.
Microchip still supports this family, even though the PIC18 is a
much better
choice if you need more power than the PIC16 which is much cheaper,
because
of their policy of whenever possible always supporting past lines.
They do
this to prove to their potential customers that they will not be
hung out to
dry because of discontinued or obsoleted parts.


 

You will probably find answers to your questions about the Microchip
PIC family of micro-controllers on one of the _many_ PIC discussion
groups or other micro-controller discussion groups. Though it is an
interesting topic here it may be more productive there. I'll bet a
lot of people on this list are also on one or more uC lists.



--- In Electronics_101@y..., "Mounir Shita" <mshita@c...> wrote:
If I understood Microchip right, then there is no further
development
of the 17-family, right?

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get
all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about
that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its
16
bit and much faster.

Mounir


Mounir Shita
 

Hi Ted,

PIC stands for Peripheral (okay, I'm bad in English spelling)
Interface Controller. Its a microcontroller manufactured by Microchip.

PIC17 and PIC18 is two different microcontroller families. PIC18 was
just released last year I think. So it is very new.

Difference between them aren't really to much. I personally find
PIC18 easier to program. The architecture is much more programming
friendly (I think).

Hope this helps :)

Mounir
~No question is to dumb. Only the answer~


--- In Electronics_101@y..., "Teodoro M. Villamarzo" <tedmv@m...>
wrote:
Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:

Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the
differences
between the PIC17 and 18?

Thanks...

Ted


At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get
all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using
the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about
that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However,
its 16
bit and much faster.


From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive.
However at
present time I think I will have little use for it at work. But
I might
play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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Teodoro M. Villamarzo
 

Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:

Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the differences between the PIC17 and 18?

Thanks...

Ted


At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its 16
bit and much faster.



From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive. However at present time I think I will have little use for it at work.? But I might play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.

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Mounir Shita
 

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Hi Ted,
?
Yeah, actually I'm currently working on putting a PIC into a toy robot.
?
They are available commercially. Actually, PIC are one of the most popular microcontrollers among hobbyist. You can by them at about any electronic component store/distributor. Check out for example. To program them you either:
?
(1) Need a programmer. Which can be pretty expensive. But if you have one of those, then you're set for a long long time.
(2) You can get a In-Circuit Debugger which will program a few Flash parts.
(3) Make your own programmer (tons of schematics for this on the web) and use in-serial programming.
?
Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: Teodoro M. Villamarzo [mailto:tedmv@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources

Hi Mounir,
???????? Thanks for the concise definitions. I suspect that you can make
mechanical devices using them. Maybe even a small robot? I haven't seen
one, though. Are they commercially available? And how do you program them?

Ted


At 04:12 AM 11/1/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Ted,
>
>PIC stands for Peripheral (okay, I'm bad in English spelling)
>Interface Controller. Its a microcontroller manufactured by Microchip.
>
>PIC17 and PIC18 is two different microcontroller families. PIC18 was
>just released last year I think. So it is very new.
>
>Difference between them aren't really to much. I personally find
>PIC18 easier to program. The architecture is much more programming
>friendly (I think).
>
>Hope this helps :)
>
>Mounir
>~No question is to dumb. Only the answer~
>
>
>--- In Electronics_101@y..., "Teodoro M. Villamarzo"
>wrote:
> > Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:
> >
> > Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the
>differences
> > between the PIC17 and 18?
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
> > At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > >>Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get
>all
> > >>their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using
>the
> > >>dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about
>that
> > >>part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However,
>its 16
> > >>bit and much faster.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive.
>However at
> > > present time I think I will have little use for it at work.? But
>I might
> > > play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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Teodoro M. Villamarzo
 

Hi Mounir,
Thanks for the concise definitions. I suspect that you can make mechanical devices using them. Maybe even a small robot? I haven't seen one, though. Are they commercially available? And how do you program them?

Ted

At 04:12 AM 11/1/01 +0000, you wrote:
Hi Ted,

PIC stands for Peripheral (okay, I'm bad in English spelling)
Interface Controller. Its a microcontroller manufactured by Microchip.

PIC17 and PIC18 is two different microcontroller families. PIC18 was
just released last year I think. So it is very new.

Difference between them aren't really to much. I personally find
PIC18 easier to program. The architecture is much more programming
friendly (I think).

Hope this helps :)

Mounir
~No question is to dumb. Only the answer~


--- In Electronics_101@y..., "Teodoro M. Villamarzo" <tedmv@m...>
wrote:
Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:

Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the
differences
between the PIC17 and 18?

Thanks...

Ted


At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get
all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using
the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about
that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However,
its 16
bit and much faster.


From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive.
However at
present time I think I will have little use for it at work. But
I might
play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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d nixon
 

You'd get a better answer on the PIC group.



From: "Teodoro M. Villamarzo" <tedmv@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:28:19 +0800

Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:

Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the differences
between the PIC17 and 18?

Thanks...

Ted


At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its 16
bit and much faster.


From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive. However at
present time I think I will have little use for it at work. But I might
play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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Mounir Shita
 

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I would disagree with everyone who thinks PIC discussions doesn't belong to this group either. I think we're beyond the times where you could do everything with discrete components. These days microcontrollers belong as much to Basic Electronics as a transistor and a diode.
?
Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:23 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources

You'd get a better answer on the PIC group.



>From: "Teodoro M. Villamarzo"
>Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
>To: Electronics_101@...
>Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
>Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:28:19 +0800
>
>Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:
>
>Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the differences
>between the PIC17 and 18?
>
>Thanks...
>
>Ted
>
>
>At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>>Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get all
>>>their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
>>>dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about that
>>>part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its 16
>>>bit and much faster.
>>
>>
>>
>>From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive. However at
>>present time I think I will have little use for it at work.? But I might
>>play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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d nixon
 

Yes, microcontrollers are electronic devices, but the discussion of them has generated so much traffic that they have their own group.

Should we discuss electronics on the Physics group?

-Mike



From: Mounir Shita <mshita@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: "'Electronics_101@...'" <Electronics_101@...>
Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:26:16 -0500

I would disagree with everyone who thinks PIC discussions doesn't belong to
this group either. I think we're beyond the times where you could do
everything with discrete components. These days microcontrollers belong as
much to Basic Electronics as a transistor and a diode.

Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:23 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources


You'd get a better answer on the PIC group.



From: "Teodoro M. Villamarzo" <tedmv@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: PIC resources
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:28:19 +0800

Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm really interested:

Can some tell me what a PIC is, and what it does, and what the
differences
between the PIC17 and 18?

Thanks...

Ted


At 08:48 PM 10/30/01 -0500, you wrote:

Must agree, 18 is way better than 17. Hopefully soon they'll get all
their parts out in flash versions. Have you thought about using the
dsPIC, when it comes out, to something ? I'm very excited about that
part. Price wise, its very close to the PIC18-family. However, its 16
bit and much faster.


From what I have read about the dsPIC it sounds impressive. However at
present time I think I will have little use for it at work. But I might
play around with it at home some when it come out, just for fun.
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Jim Purcell
 

Mike,

Yes, microcontrollers are electronic devices, but the discussion of them has
generated so much traffic that they have their own group.

Should we discuss electronics on the Physics group?
Well, list groups are not necessarily so specialized that they don't overlap
topics. I would say that the group owner should decide but I see nothing
off topic about micro controllers. Unless you consider the list name,
Electronics 101. OTOH we were getting into some pretty abstract
and more advanced discussions of capacitors and charge.

Jim