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Re: CPU question

Mounir Shita
 

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You're talking about using the CPU's in a non-PC enviroment? I mean using them in your own PCB?

-----Original Message-----
From: epsulon@... [mailto:epsulon@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:50 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: [Electronics_101] CPU question

While we are on the topic of microcontrollers and such, here is my question.
With the pentium 3 500MHZ and 700 MHZ at prices of $50 dollars and less, I
was wondering if it is possible to actually use this CPU's for dedicated
computing? If this is possible I would love to learn about these
oppurtunities. I would think that with all of the power in these processors
you could do make some really strong projects. Thanks for any help.
??????????????????????????????????????????????? Jon



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CPU question

 

While we are on the topic of microcontrollers and such, here is my question.
With the pentium 3 500MHZ and 700 MHZ at prices of $50 dollars and less, I
was wondering if it is possible to actually use this CPU's for dedicated
computing? If this is possible I would love to learn about these
oppurtunities. I would think that with all of the power in these processors
you could do make some really strong projects. Thanks for any help.
Jon


Re: newbie inquiry

 

A good place for a beginning electronics information is in
the "bookmarks" section of the yahoo groups Electronics 101 web
page. If you are using this group only as an email list then you are
missing out on the other features that the group page has to offer.
There is an on line text book and some very good links. Google or
your favorite search engine is a great place to look for specific
information (generally better than someones opinion). Datasheets are
expecially easy to find this way. The web has made that part of my
job much easier.

Lamda:
greek letter overused for identifying college fraternaties :)
( ...and what Jim says - wavelength)





--- In Electronics_101@y..., Jim Purcell <jpurcell@w...> wrote:
Teodoro,

I don't know what a lamda is,
For one thing it's a brand of power supply. In RF circles it is the
symbol
for wave length.

but I think it's the current that
kills a man, so 3,000 volts may or may not kill a man if the
current is
low. Or am I wrong? This is the kind of questions which motivate
me to
learn and I appreciate it.
Neither voltage nor current alone cannot kill anyone or even shock
him.
Both are necessary, i.e. power. And probably time as well although I
suspect that this is a variable that probably varies more with the
individual. So, if the voltage is low the person will not draw
enough
current to be shocked. If the voltage source is removed very quickly
the person may be shocked but might survive if longer exposure
would have killed or injured him.


In the meantime, I'll just sit back and watch, go to the
encyclopedia or book if I don't know a term (like the one above)
and from
time to time join in the discussion, usually to ask for
clarification, and
make some contribution if I have any.
Again, thanks!
Glad to have you.

Jim

gotta add this funny:


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Re: newbie inquiry

Jim Purcell
 

Teodoro,

I don't know what a lamda is,
For one thing it's a brand of power supply. In RF circles it is the symbol
for wave length.

but I think it's the current that
kills a man, so 3,000 volts may or may not kill a man if the current is
low. Or am I wrong? This is the kind of questions which motivate me to
learn and I appreciate it.
Neither voltage nor current alone cannot kill anyone or even shock him.
Both are necessary, i.e. power. And probably time as well although I
suspect that this is a variable that probably varies more with the
individual. So, if the voltage is low the person will not draw enough
current to be shocked. If the voltage source is removed very quickly
the person may be shocked but might survive if longer exposure
would have killed or injured him.


In the meantime, I'll just sit back and watch, go to the
encyclopedia or book if I don't know a term (like the one above) and from
time to time join in the discussion, usually to ask for clarification, and
make some contribution if I have any.
Again, thanks!
Glad to have you.

Jim

gotta add this funny:


VARNING: MinnySota Computir Virus

Ve haf just sent you da "NORVEGIAN VIRUS." Since ve do not haf any programming
experience and do not know how to actually
damage your computer, dis Virus verks on da onor system. Please forward dis
Virus to eferyvone on your mailing list and den manually
delete all of da files on your hard drive. Tank you for your cooperation.

Sven and Ole
--
William F. Roberts
35081 West Fairview Road
Oconomowoc, WI, 53066
wroberts@...


Re: Bomb

Mounir Shita
 

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I was going to say that life is more than just serious stuff. If we can't slide a little out of the subject when someone asks a stupid question as?how to make a bomb, then what are we ? I'm sure even Einstein had some fun with his theories about the universe.
?
Enjoy life and don't get to stuck in your work or your private project. There is always time for some laughs! And yes, it is an electronic forum, but after almost 850 messages this month, what's 4-5 non-electronic posts ?
?
Good luck finding a group that fits your need Michael.
?
Mounir

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Purcell [mailto:jpurcell@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:38 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Bomb

Michael,

> As much as I have enjoyed this group, I am going to unsubscribe.? This
> seems to be a very inappropriate subject material.? I was hoping for a
> legitimate discussion of electronics, but it turned out to be a group of
> bed-wetters discussing bombs and Jennifer Lopez.? :-(

Sobb, Sobb, poor Michael, it just stared and I have only seen two or three messages.
You must not care about electronics that you'd unsubscribe over three messages.

Jim



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Re: Bomb

Jim Purcell
 

Michael,

As much as I have enjoyed this group, I am going to unsubscribe. This
seems to be a very inappropriate subject material. I was hoping for a
legitimate discussion of electronics, but it turned out to be a group of
bed-wetters discussing bombs and Jennifer Lopez. :-(
Sobb, Sobb, poor Michael, it just stared and I have only seen two or three messages.
You must not care about electronics that you'd unsubscribe over three messages.

Jim


Re: Bomb

Michael Warner
 

As much as I have enjoyed this group, I am going to unsubscribe. This
seems to be a very inappropriate subject material. I was hoping for a
legitimate discussion of electronics, but it turned out to be a group of
bed-wetters discussing bombs and Jennifer Lopez. :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: aconto [mailto:aconto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:18 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: RE: [Electronics_101] Bomb

Educational sake huh... well you know if I told you how to do something
and
you investigated we can both go to prison for conspiracy to commit even
if
we hadn't done anything. So you should reconsider asking such questions.
Especially at times like this

-----Original Message-----
From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:13 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Bomb

All my homeys tell me that Jennifer Lopez is the bomb.


From: "angtengchat" <angtengchat@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Subject: [Electronics_101] Bomb
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:57:55 +0800

1) Whats the defination of a Bomb?
2) How to make a bomb?

For educational sake only!

Thanks


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Re: Bomb

aconto
 

Educational sake huh... well you know if I told you how to do something and
you investigated we can both go to prison for conspiracy to commit even if
we hadn't done anything. So you should reconsider asking such questions.
Especially at times like this

-----Original Message-----
From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:13 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Bomb

All my homeys tell me that Jennifer Lopez is the bomb.


From: "angtengchat" <angtengchat@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Subject: [Electronics_101] Bomb
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:57:55 +0800

1) Whats the defination of a Bomb?
2) How to make a bomb?

For educational sake only!

Thanks


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Re: Bomb

Mounir Shita
 

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And with how little we know about cloning, you won't be able to "make" her!

-----Original Message-----
From: d nixon [mailto:dnixon9@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:13 PM
To: Electronics_101@...
Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Bomb

All my homeys tell me that Jennifer Lopez is the bomb.


>From: "angtengchat"
>Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
>To:
>Subject: [Electronics_101] Bomb
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:57:55 +0800
>
>1)??? Whats the defination of a Bomb?
>2)??? How to make a bomb?
>
>For educational sake only!
>
>Thanks
>
>
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Re: Bomb

d nixon
 

All my homeys tell me that Jennifer Lopez is the bomb.


From: "angtengchat" <angtengchat@...>
Reply-To: Electronics_101@...
To: <Electronics_101@...>
Subject: [Electronics_101] Bomb
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:57:55 +0800

1) Whats the defination of a Bomb?
2) How to make a bomb?

For educational sake only!

Thanks


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Re: LED Driver circuit

 

It appears the LM3916 chip has been discontinued, although I can
still get some from National Semiconductor.

Is there any benefit in using a LM3915, or LM3914? From the
schematics that I downloaded, both appear to be the same, but thought
I'd ask.

Brian


Re: A hopefully simple transistor question

 

It wasn't Dr. Kelly was it?

--- In Electronics_101@y..., "G Ramasubramani" <grama@a...> wrote:
Do you remember the name or author of the text that you used? We
only had a series of notes from the instructor.


Same here. I can look around though.

Rama


Re: Fw: communication concepts ??

Jim Purcell
 

adityan,

was surprised when I told him
that an AM radio station could modulate up to +/-
15 kHz from the carrier. He thought that the ten kHz
spacing of radio station's meant that they were limited
to +/- 5 kHz.
I also cannot wonder less. How is that possible??
Well, there are two factors, what the modulation
frequencies the transmitter is capable of and what
bandwidth the FCC allows. Both are +/- 15 kHz in
most cases. How can this be, simple, stations are
never assigned frequencies close enough to interfere.
You won't have one station at 1000 kHz and a near
by one at 1010 kHz or 990 kHz, and probably none
at 1020 or 980.

Jim


Re: Fw: communication concepts ??

 

Hi,

You said,
was surprised when I told him
that an AM radio station could modulate up to +/-
15 kHz from the carrier. He thought that the ten kHz
spacing of radio station's meant that they were limited
to +/- 5 kHz.
I also cannot wonder less. How is that possible?? Please explain.

Thanx,
Aditya


Re: Parallel Port Interfacing

 

Hi,

--- In Electronics_101@y..., "Jonathan Luthje" <jluthje@p...> wrote:
Aditya,
How complex do you need the interface to be? There are a lot of
ways
around your particular issue.
There r some requirements of the board. If we can sqeeze out the
maximum performance from the parallel port the better. We are involved
in BIDIRECTIONAL TRANSFER HERE.

Now we don't want to use centronics mode becoz it is unidirectional
only and we don't want ECP as it requires software compression and
commensurate decompression. So we r left with EPP.

Now let me repeat the question: whether I would require an ASIC to
control the protocol or should the FPGA take care of it??

thanx,
Aditya


Re: Fw: communication concepts ??

Doug Hale
 

Mixers are just analog multipliers, that is about as linear as it gets.

The Radio ether is just one big summing junction (with distance related attenuation). It is not exactly like there is a 50Mhz signal, and a 50.5 Mhz signal, and a 51Mhz signal, ...There is only one signal - that is the sum of all the signals being transmitted. That signal has a 50Mhz component, a 50.5Mhz component, a 51Mhz component, ...

Let me show you an example of this:
A square wave is a single signal - or waveform. Yet it consist of many frequency componts.
The equation for the voltage of the square wave at any given time is actually a summation of all the frequencies of the square wave. The equation is:
sin(wt) - sin(3wt)/3 + sin(5wt)/5 - sin(7wt)/7 + sin(9wt)/9 - sin(11wt)/11 ...

w = 2 Pi f
Pi is 3.141576...
f is the base frequency of the square wave
t is time

The ... at the end of the equation indicates that this is an infinate series - it goes on for ever.

Now, if I were to build a filter that only allows sin(7wt) to pass, I would get a sine wave that is 7 times the frequency of the square wave.

This is call fourier analysis - which is frequency domain in stead of time domain.
In time domain, we concern our selves with what a voltage or current is at a given time.
In frequency domain, we concern ourselves with the current or voltage at a given frequency.

So when we talk of the radio ether having different frequencys - a 50Mhz, a 50.5Mhx, a 51Mz, ...
we aren't actually that far off - we are just talking in frequency domain terms instead of time domain terms.
Why do we use frequency domain insead of time domain? I bet most of you have not yet got your head around the square wave example but you all have a working knowledge of radios - you can tune them to a station of your choice. We use frequency domain because it is much easier.

If you want to prove the above square wave example to yourself, search the web for a program called GNUPLOT. Install it and play with it.

Doug Hale




Jim Purcell wrote:

adity,

About the question "why waves don't mix up?"

Why this is putting it rather crudely but ... WAVES DO MIX UP!!
The original issue was whether various natural e.m. waves, i.e
light, etc. don't mix. And they generally don't I think. What
you are talking about is modulation, as with an AM transmitter.
And even then the carrier wave is preserved. You have the
carrier wave, the frequency that the station advertises, plus
multiple side bands that are at frequencies equal to carrier
+/- the audio frequency. I recall my office mate at the
college where I taught, the same one who told me that
a capacitors charge resides in the dielectric rather than
the plates, by the way, was surprised when I told him
that an AM radio station could modulate up to +/-
15 kHz from the carrier. He thought that the ten kHz
spacing of radio station's meant that they were limited
to +/- 5 kHz. So e.m. waves can get mixed or they can
stay separate, depending on the conditions. It is my
understanding that the mixing requires non linearity
of the medium or device through which they pass, i.e.
a vacuum tube, a transistor, even a diode.

Jim



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Re: some observations

 

Hi,

You said,
Wave A + Wave B = Wave (A+B) = Wave A + Wave B.
what about Interferance???? Which as u might be knowing occurs if the
two waves are superimposed upon each other with phased out then you
get a pattern of high and low. This occurs even in case of light
waves. So it must occur in modulated electromagnatic waves.

Secondly, if so called waves don't mix up then what about
environmental noise that corrupts the signal??


regds,
Aditay.


Re: Fw: communication concepts ??

Jim Purcell
 

adity,

About the question "why waves don't mix up?"

Why this is putting it rather crudely but ... WAVES DO MIX UP!!
The original issue was whether various natural e.m. waves, i.e
light, etc. don't mix. And they generally don't I think. What
you are talking about is modulation, as with an AM transmitter.
And even then the carrier wave is preserved. You have the
carrier wave, the frequency that the station advertises, plus
multiple side bands that are at frequencies equal to carrier
+/- the audio frequency. I recall my office mate at the
college where I taught, the same one who told me that
a capacitors charge resides in the dielectric rather than
the plates, by the way, was surprised when I told him
that an AM radio station could modulate up to +/-
15 kHz from the carrier. He thought that the ten kHz
spacing of radio station's meant that they were limited
to +/- 5 kHz. So e.m. waves can get mixed or they can
stay separate, depending on the conditions. It is my
understanding that the mixing requires non linearity
of the medium or device through which they pass, i.e.
a vacuum tube, a transistor, even a diode.

Jim


Re: from electronics and computer engineers association

Jim Purcell
 

ron,

kindly send a responce so that i know what other
information.
The fact that you have sent a message means you are in the
group. You will receive all messages as email, reply or not
as you wish, just like any email. You can go to the Yahoo
groups site to read past messages or to change your
preferences. Just follow the menus.

Jim


Re: electric welding

Jim Purcell
 

Sunantoro,

By connecting three batteries of larger amperage say 60, we can make our own
light duty welding tool.
I'm not sure I would want to use batteries for welding. First off I don't think a 60 Amp capacity is
enough. Secondly lead acid batteries produce hydrogen. Can you say 'Hindenberg' boys and girls? To be
honest, I have never had a need to do any arc welding so I have never investigated that option.

Jim