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Actually that worked. Interesting, I’ve never seen the yellow and blue scheme, mine is all boxcar brown. Cheers, Martin Sent from a mobile device, may contain typos

Yes 2 schemes of the same car.. Both have Atlas Austria on the under frame Trying to attach a pic.. Not sure if it will go through. ~Ian [email protected]> wrote:

Hi Ian, You do mean the car is physically the same and just the painting/printing is different, correct? Because there are two different versions. The one as you describe and the other with the blue

I have a mysterious Heinz 57 Vinegar car.. Yellow tank with. Blue "57" but larger than the Atlas Car. Blue "Heinz Vinegars" (also larger than the Atlac car. Brown Flat with white Text "H.J. Heinz Co.

Dave,? ? On the Rivarossi passenger packaged in iBertran box might not be a mis-packaging but a re-packaging. As Atlas repackaged the Rivarossi car under their brand name the Spanish company

George, I committed the digital sin of creating a 'non descriptive' Subject line. Please feel free to amend? (admin rights) it to include reference to the A1G type etc. as appropriate. regards davew

I did so and he confirmed it was just a box handy for shipping. I've looked thru the passenger fleet tonite and have found some of the RR/ Arnold as heavyweight Pullmans. Same mount screws but as you

Thanks George. I will try and check with seller, who possibly wasn't the original purchaser of them but see what provenance I can find. I see currently Con-Cor has found a few 'old stock' and is

I think it's very clear here that the A1G/Rivarossi car is in an incorrect Ibertren box.? I would expect to see a proper nest for the car and I don't.? The Rivarossi tooling was used again post-A1G,

Thanks Doug, Mike and others. Of course I realised RR made all the A1G, I was without stating looking for confirmation is all that these were contemporary/ synonymous models. First pic was in-line as

Yes, it is entirely possible the tooling has been used since Atlas ended its relationship many years ago in the early seventies. Rivarossi, themselves with their brand, made many more of the cars

Yeah, That’s what I thought. So my guess is either it’s mispackaged (the paper insert seems to be pretty modern) or Rivarossi (more likely Hornby) made the same car for Ibertren more recently. My

All Atlas passenger cars were made by Rivarossi. Doug

I have that same car in 1st gen Atlas packaging, but I always believed it was made for them by Rivarossi. Cheers, Martin Sent from a mobile device, may contain typos

Apologies for delay completing this line of enquiry. I got sidetracked AND the pics weren't any use so I'm reshooting today. Here anyway is the external packaging- What is interesting, or is this just

Is a?Spanish?brand of?model railway, based in?Barcelona. It specialises in models of the Spanish?RENFE?train engines and cars. Ibertren?N scale?models were quite popular in Spain in the 90s;

What is Bertren or iBertren ? (A little hard to tell from the typeface used by 'them'). Because, I have unwittingly become the owner of...? two...? The suspense would last longer if we did not have

Getting there... Apologies, dave

Sure, send it on over!  Sorry for the slow reply... George your list-owner

George I've done some recent research and tripped on [another] prototype and if you wish, can provide data and updates should you wish to 'improve' the accuracy of said reference. I note the type has