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Re: Does Atlas 1st Generation include?


T A Meserole
 

George & Doug:

First, Thank You both for you kind replies.

My reseach into beverage cars indicate that the Atlas Rivarossi Euro reefers
were released in the USA from 1969 to 1976.
I do not have a catalog handy to scan for you, so I apologize for lack of
documentation. I have obtained my information from
Euro beer car collectors and some of their web sites, as well as, some of their
notes. So I guess based on the dates, you will have to include them at some
point.

You should note that many of these same cars were also released in Europe by
Rivarossi, but under different product numbers. The Rivarossi product numbers
appear to be in the range of 9300 to 9326. For example Spatenbr???u M???nchen
shows up as both Atlas 2467 and Rivarossi 9310. I have a couple of these cars,
but as you can imagine, they are a little harder to find than the rest of the
early Atlas cars.

George, we are tentatively planning for Chantilly. (My wife, Bobbi, job is due
to end before then, which means its my turn to go to work again, which may get
in the way of the convention.) If we make it there, I would love to sit and
drink with you. Now when one scales beverages from life size to N scale, I know
you shrink the size of the container, but my blonde question is "Do you scale
the alcohol content up to compensate?"

Doug, will you be in Chantilly to join us for drink? If so, I give you both
pointers on how to get Euro catalogs via ebay DE or ebay UK.

By the way, the February issue of Hundeman's N Scale magazine will have an
article refering to the upcoming convention.

Tom

George Irwin wrote:

At 12:18 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Tom asked about non-US Atlas offerings being included in A1G,
and Doug answered:
I would say that if they were released during the same time period that the
first generation US released cars were (1967-1971), then yes, they would be
considered A1G. Also, being manufactured by Rivarossi makes them viable
candidates because after the 1G, Atlas made their cars here in America.

So far, however, George, Ross, and I have concentrated on the equipment that
was available in the US. On my part, it is mainly due to the issues involved
in researching European stuff (availability of catalogs, magazines, etc.).

I know Ola has posted some pages from European Atlas catalogs in the files
section of the list and this is a start, but accounting for every release
may be
quite an undertaking. After I get my site pretty much squared away with the
US product, I may look into including the European prototype locomotives,
maybe
only in a listing format since I know very little about them.
And I reply:

What he said.

Seriously, though, I should either put a disclaimer on my site or expand my
horizons. I may have to do the first for now and aim for the second
later. Tom, you'll be in Chantilly, right? Perhaps we can discuss a plan,
over a bottle of something that may have been carried by one of the
examples you cite. Although a pint in N Scale is only about .02 ounce,
isn't it?

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