¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAwesome news! Thanks for all your work, Jared! Glad to be on the same branch of the tree with you, Chuck! (Assuming your name Chuck is for Charles, that makes two Charles on this branch.) According to Jared's time estimate, Chuck's and my MRCA must have lived somewhere in the 1300 - 1500 CE timeframe. Is there a tradition in your family, Chuck, of?the country of origin of?your Martin ancestry? There was no specific tradition in mine for my Thomas family, but a near match with an Evans who emigrated from Carmarthenshire Wales - actually I don't think they call them "shires" in Wales anymore but I forgot the exact term - has made me think that my Thomas Y-line ancestry was likely also from Wales, at least at some point in time in the past. This reminds me to try to locate my notes regarding this Evans match. (The man had tested via?SMGF which no longer makes results available online and I had noted the similarity in STR results when checking various databases a few years ago.) I'll let you know if I find my notes. Charles Thomas From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jared Smith <jared@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Z16357] New Thomas/Martin branch ?
The S5668 SNP pack results are in for Chuck Martin and they confirm a
new Thomas/Martin branch of the tree. First, I had indicated Chuck's kit # previously as 161394. That was incorrect. His actual kit # is 495859. One of Thomas' (previously) unique SNPs is FGC33966. FTDNA included this SNP in the S5668 SNP Pack. Chuck Martin is positive for FGC33966 (and also BY11573), thus verifying this new branch! I've updated my charts at to reflect
the new branching (you may need to hit Refresh). You'll notice that we currently don't have anyone left right at S59969/BY11573 - they've all moved to downstream blocks in just the last few weeks due to new test results. This places the common Thomas/Martin ancestor at probably 500-700 years ago. It's likely that Thomas and Martin also share some of Thomas' other 'unique' SNPs - such as FGC33968 and FGC33967 - see Each new SNP match would move your common ancestor 100+ years closer to present day. But you are GD=6 at Y67, so this does suggest that your common ancestor is still probably at least a few hundred years back, and that we got lucky and hit gold with your FGC33966 SNP match. In other news, I see that FTDNA has updated their tree with some of our recent changes (I'll request that FGC33966 be added). If I'm reading it correctly, the new terminal SNP for Bennett and Phillips (I currently have as ??? on my charts) is labelled BY15420. They also list BY15419 upstream of this and BY11565, but I'm not sure what this SNP is. I'll try to figure it out. Discovering new branches is what this project is about, and new ones always make my day! Thanks, Jared PS - Chuck, I don't see you in the Martin project. Maybe try re-joining - or maybe something odd is happening there. |
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