On 22 Jun 2023, at 13:07, JA Woodall <jane.woodall2016@...> wrote:

Hi Margaret

Sometimes eliminating things helps.?

best wishes

Jane?

On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 at 11:41, Margaret ELLIOTT via <m.e.elliott=[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you Jane. ? It is very helpful, even if it was by effectively eliminating any possibility of my Ann being buried in Hull! ? The Wath marriage is of my John, and it is he who married Harriet Milner. ? So, as a son was baptised in Scrooby in 1810 and John was married again in 1815, there is a very small window for Ann’s death. ? Ann was born in Wath upon Dearne in 1780, John in Conisborough in 1774, and John must have taken over the mill in Scrooby when the 20 year old only son of a quite distant relative died.

Kind regards

Margaret

On 21 Jun 2023, at 09:09, JA Woodall <jane.woodall2016@...> wrote:

Hi Margaret

There's a baptism of John Strafford - father Richard - October 10 1765 at Holy Trinity Hull.

There's a John Strafford buried Sept 7 1789 at St Mary Lowgate Hull - father Jonathan so not the above John

The only marriage I can find for John Strafford in Hull is Oct 21, 1795 at Holy Trinity but that's to Alice Wilson

John and Alice have a son John baptised Feb 6 at Holy Trinity; he goes on to marry Mary Strathard in Holy Trinity July 17, 1823 and then possibly remarries? to Jane Ward, widow in 1831, also at Holy Trinity. His occupation is tanner, and William Strafford was one of the witnesses.?

The only marriage I can find from 1750 onwards (based on Ann being 60 when she died - no evidence just using that as a timeframe) of a John to an Ann is March 7 1799 in Wath on Dearne - she's Ann Crossley of Wath, he's from Scrooby in Nottinghamshire.? They married by licence. Wath is 54 miles from Hull, Scrooby is 17 miles from Wath- just over the border into Nottinghamshire.

In 1815 John Strafford, widower of Sutton upon Lound and Scrooby, Nottinghamshire married Harriet Milner, also widowed, Dec 15 in Scrooby by licence.?

Having said all that - there is a John Strafford, 75 - born 1766 - of independent means, living in Thornton Square, Holy Trinity, Hull with Elizabeth Taylor 40 (born 1801) a straw bonnet maker and her two children George 15 and Hannah 13 - all born in county. Possibly a widowed daughter - and age tallies with? John, son of Richard born in 1765.?

I don't know if that helps or just confuses but hopefully the former!

best wishes

Jane?

Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anytime, any place - particularly Robert married Susanna(h) ?? and settled in Birstall, West Yorkshire in 1708. Where did they come from?!?

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:16, Margaret ELLIOTT via <m.e.elliott=[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you for the information.? ?Maybe she was my missing wife, maybe she wasn’t, and maybe I shall never know.? ? ?I guess Church records were not designed with future genealogists in mind.? ?John was a miller, so perhaps could have gone to a port and taken his wife with him.

Kind regards
Margaret

> On 19 Jun 2023, at 23:03, John Hanson via <john.hanson=[email protected]> wrote:
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> Ann
> The actual parish records for Yorkshire apart from the West Riding (and that is slowly appearing) are al on FMP.
> Prior to 1813 and the start of the Rose's registers you are unlikely to find any more information -
> If only she had died 6 months later then you would have know how old she was - but you would not have known that she was the wife of John!
> You win and you lose
> Regards
> John Hanson FSG
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Margaret ELLIOTT via
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2023 2:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [yorksgen] Hull burial - STRAFFORD
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> Ancestry have a burial in Hull on 31/7/1812 of Ann STRAFFORD wife of John.? ?If anyone has access to Hull registers or graveyards I should be very appreciative if they could see if any more information is available, particularly where John and Ann were from.
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> Kind regards
> Margaret
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