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poem - Pete's Sunflower
Hi everyone, ¡¤????????His handsome head hung sad since worlds began. ? He was a sweet and heavy-burden man, traipsing slow burn, as dawn across the floor. His handsome head gazed sad since worlds began. ? Gravid with a life full borne. ?His dead pan dignified grace shewed, all agreed, at core, he was a sweet and heavy-burden man. ? He bent and furrowed, seed in gentle hand. Companion true to life¡¯s longing. In awe his handsome head gazed sad since worlds began. ? A full-swelled bloom grew, faith to nature¡¯s plan, laden, reaching up as he dragged down, for he was a sweet and heavy-burden man. ? Pete¡¯s body had lain long in graven land when cumbrous gilt was fain to stoop. No more his handsome head gazed sad since worlds began. ? With autumn sigh, it fell to hoar earth and scattered seeds as memory dreams before. He was a sweet and heavy-burden man. His handsome head gazed sad since worlds began. ? |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Fiona,I¡¯m no poet so don¡¯t feel qualified to comment in detail. But, for what it¡¯s worth, the ¨C or at least ¡®a¡¯ ¨C ?meaning was clear to me, and very moving. I prefer the original line 3 (although the alliteration of your alternative reads easily, so close) because 'gazed¡¯ gives an extra dimension; we already have a feeling of hanging - "heavy-burden¡± ¡°bent¡± ¡°dragged down¡±. As I said, I¡¯m no poet, but I¡¯ve learned something from you already - what a villanelle is - and was interested to note how 10 syllables can take up such varying amounts of space! ?Thank you Fiona. Pam G
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1. To me, the poem tells of the life of a solid dependable man, whose spirit is in the sunflower he tended, and how it grew out of his efforts, and in a way took on his energy and became him , growing tall and standing for his efforts in a difficult world. If this analysis is correct, then one could give more attention to the difficult world that the man and the sunflower grew up in, and also how the sunflower grew ou t of this challenging environment and won in the end, growing big and string and huge and yellow as the dawn. ? 2. The half rhymes: line endings ¨Cand or ¨Can. They don¡¯t jar, but it does mean that he poem loses power. When this occurs, it is almost as though the poem changes gear and mood. I presume you don¡¯t want it to. This loss of power is especially noticeable at the gather on line 16. It¡¯s as though we are waiting to hear something and then it changes away. Rhymes echo and build mood. If you want this change - Ok, but I suspect you want to keep it tight and controlled. ? 3. ?Line 3 the word ¡®gazed¡¯ is better than the alliterative h¡¯s in the alternative new line 3 proposed. ? 4. It scans beautifully most of the time but slows and jars the reader on line 8 ¡°...companion true to life¡¯s longing...¡¯ hasn¡¯t got the same rhythm as the other middle line in the triplets. Same is true with line? ...¡¯dignified grace shewed....¡¯ ? µþ³Ü³Ù¡¯? ...laden, reaching up as he dragged down..¡¯ obeys the musicality of the pattern with two short stress at the beginning of the line rather than long stresses which you have written in some places. ? 5. Well done. Let¡¯s have another. Stuart Larner |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi pam an interesting piece. Full marks for attempting this difficult form. here are my comments for what they are worth.
1. To me, the poem tells of the life of a solid dependable man, whose spirit is in the sunflower he tended, and how it grew out of his efforts, and in a way took on his energy and became him , growing tall and standing for his efforts in a difficult world. If this analysis is correct, then one could give more attention to the difficult world that the man and the sunflower grew up in, and also how the sunflower grew ou t of this challenging environment and won in the end, growing big and string and huge and yellow as the dawn. ? 2. The half rhymes: line endings ¨Cand or ¨Can. They don¡¯t jar, but it does mean that he poem loses power. When this occurs, it is almost as though the poem changes gear and mood. I presume you don¡¯t want it to. This loss of power is especially noticeable at the gather on line 16. It¡¯s as though we are waiting to hear something and then it changes away. Rhymes echo and build mood. If you want this change - Ok, but I suspect you want to keep it tight and controlled. ? 3. ?Line 3 the word ¡®gazed¡¯ is better than the alliterative h¡¯s in the alternative new line 3 proposed. ? 4. It scans beautifully most of the time but slows and jars the reader on line 8 ¡°...companion true to life¡¯s longing...¡¯ hasn¡¯t got the same rhythm as the other middle line in the triplets. Same is true with line? ...¡¯dignified grace shewed....¡¯ ? µþ³Ü³Ù¡¯? ...laden, reaching up as he dragged down..¡¯ obeys the musicality of the pattern with two short stress at the beginning of the line rather than long stresses which you have written in some places. ? 5. Well done. Let¡¯s have another. Stuart Larner
@StuartLarner On 21/03/2020 07:28,
fionadudley2205@... wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks Fiona.? I enjoyed doing it.? Any else got anything? Stuart? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: fionadudley2205@... Date: 22/03/2020 13:29 (GMT+00:00) Subject: Re: [York Writers Critique Group] poem - Pete's Sunflower |
Hi Fiona
Like the other Pam, I'm not a poet. I really liked the conjuring up of mood (a sort of sweet melancholy) and found the rhythm and repetition of the vilanelle form very elegant and quite hypnotic. The parallels between Pete and his sunflower came across clearly. I wasn't 100% sure of the meaning of a couple of the more archaic words, but this I don't think this matters - probably added to the atmosphere. Likewise, it wasn't clear to me why you use burden not burdened. But overall, I was swept away by the feel of it. Thanks for sharing this. Pam |