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Hi Dave,
John Brazaitis responded also with a very nice offer, and his advice on hardwiring is the best. ?I would not use a Bachmann tender for lots of different reasons, especially the fact that it is DCC Ready, for Bachman engines that is. ?When I put a decoder in my Bachman 2-8-0, I found that the headlight did not light correctly. ?I had to configure the decoder so backward was forward and I was always confused about that. ?Then when I decided to add sound, I totally removed that circuit board and hard wired everything. ?Not all DCC ready stuff is as good as it sounds. ?I have hard wired a couple of tenders and I am extremely glad I did. ?Essentially, it?involves?setting up some type of wiper system with a wire soldered to a wiper. ?Some folks use Kadee coupler springs, the ones that fit into the box. ?I use .015 phosphor bronze wire. ?The wipers are situated to be inserted into a cut made into the styrene bolster of a styrene truck and wipe on the inside of each wheel. ?The last one I did on an AHM 0-4-0 ended up pulling power from 8 wheels off of the tender. ?That 0-4-0 doesn't stall anywhere. ?I also did this to my Hobbytown of Boston NW-2 and it never stalls anymore, even with its brass wheels.
Good luck and regards,?
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: yardbirdtrains@...
From: pgkdave@...
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:06:54 -0400
Subject: RE: [yardbirdtrains] Welcome to our newest members !

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Vic, Thanks for the advice!

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I opened the boiler and disconnected the tender as you suggested and it contains a can motor.? Using alligator clips? and a 3 foot piece of flex track, I was able to get the motor running by connection to a set of the tender wheels that I removed from the tender and connecting the power pack to the test track.? The motor and engine drivers run perfectly so I know now it is the tender that is causing the problem.??? I am in the process now of trying to clean the tender connections.

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This leads me to another problem I came across with the tender.? How do I remove the tender shell?? I removed both trucks and tried using a small screwdriver to lift the shell but it won¡¯t budge.? ??Is there some trick to removing the shell from Mantua tender frames?

I don¡¯t want to break it.

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Now that I know it has a can motor I would like to place a decoder in the tender and upgrade it to DCC.? Another option I have to purchase a Bachmann DCC ready tender or since I just received a Broadway Limited PRR K4, I can remove the short haul DCC ready tender from an old Bachmann K4 that was replaced by the ?new Broadway use it instead.?? I would like to use the mantua tender since it matches the engine, what do you think?

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From: yardbirdtrains@... [mailto:yardbirdtrains@...] On Behalf Of Victor Bitleris
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:13
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: RE: [yardbirdtrains] Welcome to our newest members !

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Hi there,
Running erratically, no surprise, shorting, unlikely (but, possible).? I suspect the electrical path through the wheels, trucks and framework has oxidized and not conducting elecricity properly.? Mantua locos (as well as other cast locos) are very well known for this feechur.? You will need to check out and clean the electrical path throughout the whole loco.? My best guess is to start with the tender as usually that is where the problem is the worst.? In order to help diagnose this problem, remove the tender and maybe even the boiler and using jumper wires, like the kind you can get at Radio Shack, connect the motor directly to the rails, temporarily.? I bet you get a very smooth response.? If not, then the motor itself needs help.? I don't know if this is a can motor or an open frame.? If it is a can motor, then I kind of doubt you would have a motor issue.? If it is an open frame, then some cleaning and tuning may be required.? Usually it would be the brushes that need cleaning.
As to DCC, almost every locomotive made for DC can be converted.? If it is a can motor loco, then it is even easier as almost all can motors are already isolated from the case.? If it is an open frame, some of them will require insulating between the frame of the motor and the frame of the loco.? However, when converting to DCC, rule number ONE is to ensure the loco runs very well on DC first.
Good luck and regards, Vic Bitleris

Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: yardbirdtrains@...
From:
pgkdave@...
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:59:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Welcome to our newest members !

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Henry, thanks. ?

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I do have one question, ?I have a Mantua classic Lindbergh Special 4-4-2 that I purchased on EBay. ?It was new in the box and over 20 years old. ?When I tried to run it, it ran erratic stoping and shorting. ?Can Yardbirds repair it and convert it to DCC?

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There is no contact page on the website to ask questions so please let me know if you can do it. ?My phone number is 347-262-4706


On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:24 PM, "Henry" <
long95209@...> wrote:

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Welcome to the group . Browse the photo albums , some good works in those . Feel free to ask questions , again welcome . Henry H. moderator

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