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Re: Neat Mantua Kitbash


 

I think it was Lee Town and I was thinking it was no later than the early 80's. So the 70's may be right on.

There was another small maker at the same time that produced boiler and tender for what is obscure to me, I think it was the O&W rr. I don't remember much of them other than some mikado sized Wootens were made for more than one type of steamer and they were cast in something like epoxy.

Today we can make blank tenders of any kind, from any kind of material, and finish them with the new raised rivet resin decals as well as n/b/w details. There are also different weld seam decal patterns for our use on more modern era equipment that needs welded tenders or whatever.

With the loss of so much of our available parts to detail and build steamers, I've been slowly gathering steamer carcasses with the eye to RTV cast the critical domes and other fittings from them. One I got last year was just the boiler of the old Bachmann Wooten 2-8-0 because of its very nicely molded air pumps on its side. Of course there are the domes and boiler front and maybe some firebox jets to make use of as well. In general, I don't have to damage the originals to make the RTV copies of parts of them. I'm just getting into the meat of this project, doing the like casting has worked out well before. So I have high confidence in working out any bugs to get good quality castings I can use. There will be a trick or two to putting the lower curve on a dome where it sits on the boiler. Several untried ideas are floating for that.

I sorta expect general steamer parts to vanish over the coming years and this is my way of coping with the possibility.


Mike Bauers

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:43 AM, "Long95209" <long95209@...> wrote:

If you are thinking of LeeTown ? It was earlier than the 1980s ! I haven't seen those offered up in a while . Some of thse pieces were "add ons" if you will . They also produced a terrific "clear vision " tender . I wish[ed] they would reintroduce it , but I could'nt asfford to but it ? Cumberland Valley was the last place I saw listings for any of this stuff . Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., "Joel Holmes" <lehighvalley@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Any idea if these Wooten boilers are still arround?

Joel Holmes

In the 80's [?] was some eastern hobby shop that produced a number of
Wooten boilers as conversion kits. One of those was the very vintage civil
war era B&O camels. He also did more than one type of 1920's or so D&H or
similar anthracite road locomotive boiler.

Can't recall the name of the place, but they were very big on Rhino-proof
shipping as they touted in every ad.

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA



On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:31 PM, "John Hagen" <sprinthag@...> wrote:



He has two of those bashed 2-8-0's. one powered, one not. Other than
that they look the same.

I still haven't figured out the boiler casting as it is not the original
Mantua 2-8-0 albeit it appears to be variation of that prototype. I
think it may very well be highly modified Cary shell with the Wooten
fire box and outside ash traps added and part of the front either lopped
off or vertically sectioned. By looking at the amount of cast on
piping/sander detail it isn't a Mantua of either era. So far as making
that much of a change to a Cary remember that the original, pre-Bowser
boiler casting could be relatively soldered which would make the huge
firebox addition possible.

But that is just my opinion that I cannot back up as there is no way I
can dig out my Cary boilered Mantua mike right now as it is packed away
for our move on March 4th. Besides I either bruised or cracked some
ribs yesterday (Damned solid ice under the freshly fallen snow) and have
serious doubts about getting down the basement stairs. And if I did, the
prospect of getting back up them seems highly unlikely right now.

John Hagen

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