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Re: PRR N1s 2-10-2 and M1 4-8-2

 

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Hi Henry,

Not just PRR, most steamers had the tender decks and cab roofs painted with "red lead".? Basically it is a fairly rust proof primer, but worked pretty well to prevent rust.? Some railroads painted black over it, but most kept it red, because of the heavy wear and tear on those surfaces, these areas were repainted with red lead regularly.

As an aside, I remember a neighbor re-doing the gutters on his house around 1958.? He used galvanized U shaped gutters and a gas fired soldering iron to solder the gutters to the corners and downspouts.? Prior to hanging the gutters he painted them kind of what looked like barn red or boxcar red.? He called the paint red lead and it was fairly thick.? I was about 10 years old at the time and very confused as to me lead was a metal and how can you paint it.? Later on, I found out lead was indeed used in old time paint.

I any case, I doubt the red on the tender decks and cab roofs was for looks.

Regards, Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC



From: yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:06 PM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] PRR N1s 2-10-2 and M1 4-8-2
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Hey guys ! What is the definitive story of red [?] cab roofs and tender decks on PRR steam ??? Henry

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On Tue, 9/5/17, Doug Kisala dougkisala@... [yardbirdtrains] wrote:

Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] PRR N1s 2-10-2 and M1 4-8-2
To: "yardbirdtrains@..." , "jppellas@..."
Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2017, 8:33 AM


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Jeff,
list,
It may
take another decade or so for me to detail the engines, but
it is a good feeling to have them running.
?
I first
became aware of 6810's unique (at least at the end of
PRR's steam era) when I read Carleton's "Pennsy
Steam: ?A to T. ?I'm not sure what service precluded a
larger tender or required the smaller 130P75, but 6810
intrigued me.
While I am
planning a larger layout, the 6810 fits decently on my
smaller test layout compared to my Broadway Limited M1b. ?
?

The N1s
chassis was an older Bowser chassis with the cast frame and
smaller cylinders. ?I was really lucky with timing, and I
bought Bowser's newer cylinder block for the N1s just
before they stopped production. ?
If I hit
the lottery, resurrecting Alliance and/or getting customized
NWSL motor and gearbox combinations for popular die cast
steam models would be one of my projects. ?I've had
very good luck with the Alliance repower kits. ?
Doug
Kisala


From: "Jeff Pellas
jppellas@... [yardbirdtrains]"


To:
yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Tuesday,
September 5, 2017 5:41 AM
Subject: Re:
[yardbirdtrains] PRR N1s 2-10-2 and M1 4-8-2


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Doug,? ?
?Nice work. I was unaware that any M1 made it to the end
with a smaller tender. Those 13,000 gallon tenders were
originally built for decapods but were reassigned to K4s. In
the Post War years, as K4s were retired, some decapods that
didn't get the massive welded tenders got the 130s back.
Makes sense that an M1 still using a 110 would get a 130 as
one came available.? ?
?That N1 looks sharp. Is that a recent decapod chassis?
Looks it with the updated pistons. Too bad Alliance went
away. Fortunate that you have their mechanisms because they
are a significant improvement.
Jeff
jppellas@...


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