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Sean All this talk about 69 Mustangs and header issues are making me miss my herd of Stangs. At one point we had a 66 6 cyl. Coupe (Moms), a 67 289 Coupe (Dads), ?a 69 302 Grande (mine) ?a 69 351 Grande (Mine), a 73 Mach 1, 429, (mine),A 70 coupe (Sisters), not to mention a 75 gran Torino (Moms) and Dad's 76 460 F150. ?At the age of 17 I was in charge of all the maintenance on the cars, and they kept me busy, or as my Dad said,, out of trouble. ?Little did he know!? Ahhh, memories!? ![]() I do think the confusion over big and small blocks here centers on the 262,312,352 motor, which was neither a big block or small block V8, but was a Y block engine. We had one in Dad's old 56 F series 1 ton flatbed. Karl
--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Sean Naylor wrote:
> > Hi Vic, > The 351 is the same block, basically, as the 302. It is still considered a small block... but let me tell you this... > > Fitting the competition headers, clutch pedal linkage and the power steering all into that space provided left no room for anything else. It is so tight, you have to jack up the motor, and turn it on the passenger side, with the header attached, in order to fit the driver side header on. Makes it impossible to coat the headers with anything before installation. They are not going to look pretty, but at least they now fit and work! It took three different sets of headers and approx 10 per-fit applications of those headers before they finally fit without touching anything! > ?? > Sean > > > "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti! > > > ________________________________ > From: Victor Bitleris bitlerisvj@... > To: "yardbirdtrains@..." yardbirdtrains@... > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:50 PM > Subject: RE: [yardbirdtrains] Re: off topic but wanted to share anyway... > > > > ?? > I would have thought a Borg Warner T-10 would have been used? ??Because the Windsor was the big block, right? ??Oh well by then Ford had home grown trannies. > I just saw a really really nice 1966 with a 289 and 4-speed with the old style reverse lockout at the Ford Dealer this morning. ??It also had the really nice (expensive) wheels on it. ??I think the Ford dealer will be giving it away during some kind of promotion. ??It sure was in better shape than my poor 6 cylinder 1966 ever was. ??My wife made me get rid of mine, because as you said..."Restoring a 40+ year old car from the ground up is not for the faint of heart or impatient." ??:o) ??She understood that I really wanted to play trains more than I wanted to work on the car. ??She was right. > Regards, > Vic Bitleris > Raleigh, NC > > > > ________________________________ > To: yardbirdtrains@... > From: a69mustang4me@... > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:44:26 -0700 > Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Re: off topic but wanted to share anyway... > > ?? > > > Thanks guys on the compliments! As soon as I get it mobile, I'll post a video of that too. > > It has been a long hard road getting it to this point. Restoring a 40+ year old car from the ground up is not for the faint of heart or impatient. There are a lot of decisions, expenses and sacrifices that go into it. You defiantly can't do it for the money or profit... there is none! > > To answer someone's question... it is a 351 Windsor with a 4-speed toploader manual transmission. It is an original '69 mustang trans (not to this car) and super rare trans. It made for finding headers to fit a nightmare! > ?? > > Sean > > > "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti! > |