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Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Thank you Andy, I will report back.


Re: Schematics?

 

A very quick look at diagram,?
you should have? 8 volts tx on UHF, pin 1 of J4007
You should have some voltage, less than 8, on Pin 2 of the module.?
You should have 13.8 on pin 3 of the module, and RF out on pin 4. Check with handheld at varying distance/without antenna to see if it is amplifying.
Check what voltages you have on base and collector of final transistor, Q4006. Should be around 0.65 on base SSB tx, and 13.8 on collector.


On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 16:01, Max Donoghue <ve3tmt@...> wrote:
Yes I can hear the UHF signal quite well on my handheld. But no output power shows on the 847's meter. This is probably the pre-drive signal I'm picking up.


Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Yes I can hear the UHF signal quite well on my handheld. But no output power shows on the 847's meter. This is probably the pre-drive signal I'm picking up.


Re: Schematics?

 

Do you have a vhf/uhf handheld? Use on same frequency, with a carefully positioned screwdriver tip on the input of the driver block. Will give a rough idea if you have drive to module. By going on the output of module, you should be able to see if? it is working.


On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 14:53, Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote:

No That is a network analyser, as it has reflection ports and through ports, it is not a spectrum analyser, they are different.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 12 July 2022 14:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Looks about the same as what I have...


Re: Schematics?

 

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No That is a network analyser, as it has reflection ports and through ports, it is not a spectrum analyser, they are different.

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Andrew

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 12 July 2022 14:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Looks about the same as what I have...

https://www.amazon.ca/Seesii-Analyzer-10KHz-1-5GHz-Measuring-Parameters/dp/B08132DJLS/ref=asc_df_B08132DJLS/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=335212258477&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=729350672648384458&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1002310&hvtargid=pla-869965344213&psc=1


Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Looks about the same as what I have...

https://www.amazon.ca/Seesii-Analyzer-10KHz-1-5GHz-Measuring-Parameters/dp/B08132DJLS/ref=asc_df_B08132DJLS/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=335212258477&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=729350672648384458&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1002310&hvtargid=pla-869965344213&psc=1


Re: Schematics?

 

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Ah in that case, buy one of the those small software defined Spectrum analysers, and a few SMA adapters so you can put a scoop probe on it! Look at the single input on the VHF side the UHF will or should be a similar level!

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 12 July 2022 14:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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I don't have a lot of test gear. Multimeter, small portable scope from Amazon and a NanoVNA.


Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

I don't have a lot of test gear. Multimeter, small portable scope from Amazon and a NanoVNA.


Re: Schematics?

 

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Trace the signal paths, to the TX PA

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 12 July 2022 14:17
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Thank you Andrew, will do.

RX on the UHF band is fine. It's just the TX that has failed.?

Max


Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Thank you Andrew, will do.

RX on the UHF band is fine. It's just the TX that has failed.?

Max


Re: Schematics?

 

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Ah That Kingston, not the one 12 miles from me here in Hampshire !

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This should help, check the drive and the VCO locking they do drift out of lock

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Max Donoghue
Sent: 12 July 2022 13:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] Schematics?

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Hi Andrew,

VHF is fine. I'm in Kingston, Ontario.


Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Hi Andy,

I touched up the both the PCB and the module solder connections. I may just go in and start inspecting solder contacts to make sure everything is good. Voltages would help but I do have the hi-res schematics to get me started.

Max


Re: Schematics?

 

Howdo. When you say you resoldered the leads, was that the leads on to PCB, or taking the top off the module and resoldering internally?

I had a problem with a VHF PA that turned out to be a bad solder connection on an inductor. DC one side of inductor leg one side of PCB, but not the other. It was a bad connection to copper.?


On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 12:59, Max Donoghue <ve3tmt@...> wrote:
Hi Andrew,

VHF is fine. I'm in Kingston, Ontario.


Re: Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Hi Andrew,

VHF is fine. I'm in Kingston, Ontario.


Re: Schematics?

 

Hi I have high resolution schematics where do you live.

Does VHF tx work?

73

Andrew

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Schematics?

Max Donoghue
 

Looking for a good set of schematics with voltage references. My 847 has no output on UHF band, known to me when I purchased it. I'm aware of the issue with the leads on the UHF module losing contact, but I checked that and resoldered just to be sure but did not resolve the problem. Time to start looking elsewhere.?

All suggestions on what to check next are welcome.
Thank you
Max


Re: File /FT-847 Mods/TCXO_9 mod FT847 ON6AB.pdf uploaded #file-notice

 


Thanks
On Sunday, July 10, 2022, 06:21:00 PM AST, Andy Bosworth <sidthepop@...> wrote:


I tried this mod with a chinese TCXO. The HF? stability was better, but on VHF transmit I had a very large buzz with my signal.I tried decoupling, different regulator, everything I could think of. I ended up removing it.
You would be better to wrap the crystal in some foam, as it sits in the air stream from fan.
Andy


On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 at 21:45, rafael_mota via <rafael_mota=[email protected]> wrote:
It is not clear in figure 5 where's Q1022, also description says to solder Gnd from the tcxo into pin 1 of Q1022, but also says to solder it to pin 4 of the same Q1022
Can''t do the mod.


Re: Couple of questions

 

Any external speaker should sound better than the internal speaker. In the old days radios were designed with large speakers pointing forwards towards the users earholes. Nowadays they fit tiny speakers anywhere they can. Or is that just a ploy to get owners to buy? overpriced extension speakers.
I use a bookshelf speaker, that is around the same size as 847, it was one of two off Ebay at ?25 the pair.?
If I was really worried, I would put a Yaesu sticker on it.


On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 at 14:09, Max Donoghue <ve3tmt@...> wrote:
I'm using the Kenwood SP-31.? Good idea with the potentiometer. Will give it a try.

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022, 8:38 AM Spence M0STO via <unavailable.equal=[email protected]> wrote:
External speaker with a potentiometer inline. I¡¯m actually using an Icom speaker (wash ya mouth out) with a custom vero board.

? ?Considerably better sound than the internal speaker.

? De Spence M0STO?

Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 10 Jul 2022, at 13:14, Max Donoghue <ve3tmt@...> wrote:

Got everything fixed up yesterday even made a few 6m contacts on the A3S! Now I need to build a 6m beam.

Up first is the volume control mod, not the resistor one. That is annoying not being able to turn the volume down to a comfortable level :(


Re: File /FT-847 Mods/TCXO_9 mod FT847 ON6AB.pdf uploaded #file-notice

 

I tried this mod with a chinese TCXO. The HF? stability was better, but on VHF transmit I had a very large buzz with my signal.I tried decoupling, different regulator, everything I could think of. I ended up removing it.
You would be better to wrap the crystal in some foam, as it sits in the air stream from fan.
Andy


On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 at 21:45, rafael_mota via <rafael_mota=[email protected]> wrote:
It is not clear in figure 5 where's Q1022, also description says to solder Gnd from the tcxo into pin 1 of Q1022, but also says to solder it to pin 4 of the same Q1022
Can''t do the mod.


Re: File /FT-847 Mods/TCXO_9 mod FT847 ON6AB.pdf uploaded #file-notice

 

It is not clear in figure 5 where's Q1022, also description says to solder Gnd from the tcxo into pin 1 of Q1022, but also says to solder it to pin 4 of the same Q1022
Can''t do the mod.