Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
I did! Let me try again and check your junk email as it’s got a zip attachment but scanned by Avast as checked and good Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 8 Mar 2022, at 18:22, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote:
Send it to my home email direct not the the group
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On 2022-03-08 01:10 PM, Spence M0STO via wrote:
Hi Mick, the group won't allow attachments so sent it from another account? Have you received it?
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On 8 Mar 2022, at 18:07, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote:
Attach the .zip?
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On 2022-03-08 01:05 PM, Spence M0STO via wrote:
Just to follow up. I'm using a standard Null modem cable pins 2 and 3 crossed over and 5 GND. That goes to a Brain Boxes Industrial RS232 to USB. US-25701 and although its a bit of a pig to setup?it works incredibly?well at forcing?COM2 and COM4 pots
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de Spence M0STO
Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
Send it to my home email direct not the the group
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On 2022-03-08 01:10 PM, Spence M0STO via groups.io wrote:
Hi Mick, the group won't allow attachments so sent it from another account? Have you received it?
Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
On 8 Mar 2022, at 18:07, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote:
Attach the .zip?
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On 2022-03-08 01:05 PM, Spence M0STO via wrote:
Just to follow up. I'm using a standard Null modem cable pins 2 and 3 crossed over and 5 GND. That goes to a Brain Boxes Industrial RS232 to USB. US-25701 and although its a bit of a pig to setup?it works incredibly?well at forcing?COM2 and COM4 pots
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Hope it helps?
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de Spence M0STO
Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
Hi Mick, the group won’t allow attachments so sent it from another account? Have you received it? Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 8 Mar 2022, at 18:07, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote:
Attach the .zip?
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On 2022-03-08 01:05 PM, Spence M0STO via wrote:
Just to follow up. I'm using a standard Null modem cable pins 2 and 3 crossed over and 5 GND. That goes to a Brain Boxes Industrial RS232 to USB. US-25701 and although its a bit of a pig to setup?it works incredibly?well at forcing?COM2 and COM4 pots
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Hope it helps?
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de Spence M0STO
Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
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On 2022-03-08 01:05 PM, Spence M0STO via groups.io wrote:
Just to follow up. I'm using a standard Null modem cable pins 2 and 3 crossed over and 5 GND. That goes to a Brain Boxes Industrial RS232 to USB. US-25701 and although its a bit of a pig to setup?it works incredibly?well at forcing?COM2 and COM4 pots
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Hope it helps?
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de Spence M0STO
Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
Just to follow up. I'm using a standard Null modem cable pins 2 and 3 crossed over and 5 GND. That goes to a Brain Boxes Industrial RS232 to USB. US-25701 and although its a bit of a pig to setup?it works incredibly?well at forcing?COM2 and COM4 pots
Hope it helps?
de Spence M0STO
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Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
Run this zip. Then copy the Folder with the .ini files in it to the OmniRig folder and then select the PST version of FT847.... eg: FT847 or FT847PST. This version was modded for better Bi-Directional comms with PSTRotator as the display failed to change with the standard version.
Please let me know if it helps.
De Spence M0STO
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Thanks Spence, I would love to try a different approach to this problem other than the cable/comm/driver changes I have been struggling with.
Micky K1XH
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On 2022-03-08 12:48 PM, Spence M0STO via wrote:
Hi Mick, I use PSTRotator and Omni Rig (special Yaesu FT847 .ini file revision).
? When I change band or mode then Omni rig picks up on the change.
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?Let me send a version of OmniRig that I know works with this .ini and then please let me know if you get some kind of results.
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De Spence M0STO?
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On 8 Mar 2022, at 17:02, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote:
Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
Thanks Spence, I would love to try a different approach to this problem other than the cable/comm/driver changes I have been struggling with.
Micky K1XH
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On 2022-03-08 12:48 PM, Spence M0STO via groups.io wrote:
Hi Mick, I use PSTRotator and Omni Rig (special Yaesu FT847 .ini file revision).
? When I change band or mode then Omni rig picks up on the change.
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?Let me send a version of OmniRig that I know works with this .ini and then please let me know if you get some kind of results.
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De Spence M0STO?
Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
On 8 Mar 2022, at 17:02, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote:
Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: FT-847 CAT Control Problem
Hi Mick, I use PSTRotator and Omni Rig (special Yaesu FT847 .ini file revision). ? When I change band or mode then Omni rig picks up on the change.
?Let me send a version of OmniRig that I know works with this .ini and then please let me know if you get some kind of results.
De Spence M0STO? Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 8 Mar 2022, at 17:02, Micky Corrow via < opus@...> wrote: Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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FT-847 CAT Control Problem
Greetings All While I am trying to get my 847 setup for digital operations such as FT8, I have come across a CAT control problem. My rig is from 1990, serial 0M45xxxx so it shouldn't have any difficulties. I tried a CPU reset with no change. I can get the FT847UNI drivers working in JTDX, but not the Bi-Directional driver. While this might be the bare minimum necessary for digital operation, I would like to get the OmniRig drivers working so that I can get my logging program (Log4OMv2) working alongside another app to follow the freq. I know there is a HamLib option in Log4OM, but I can't get that to work (it is native in JTDX) so I am wondering...
Is there anyone who has their 847 working with bi-directional CAT control? If so, what cables are you using with what software?
Micky K1XH
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Re: To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine
Yes thanks for that I have found the fault it was the 2nd TX I.F. Mixer out of lock! And there are all sorts of little mods everywhere and not on the circuit diagram ? 73 ? Andrew ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nils Ostman Sent: 07 March 2022 07:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine ? Hi Andrew, Have you checked the reverse side of the AF-board? i ,had an "impossible" problem with full power on FM/SSB but only 100 mW in CW. There was a sloppy "factory mod" under Q1081. /Nils?
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Re: To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine
Hi Andrew, Have you checked the reverse side of the AF-board? i ,had an "impossible" problem with full power on FM/SSB but only 100 mW in CW. There was a sloppy "factory mod" under Q1081. /Nils?
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Re: To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine
Hi Nils, ? Thank you very much this compares to my readings, it is odd not to see the AF output on pin2, but it is there further up the food chain on the input to the balanced modulator ? 73 ? Andrew ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nils Ostman Sent: 06 March 2022 13:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine ? Hi, I did a brief check on a working 847: Q 1053 Pin 1? ?3.8 Pin 2? ?1.9 Pin 3? ?3 - 5 depending on mic gain Pin 4? ?3.9 Pin 5? ?gnd Pin 6? ?nc Pin 7? 3.8 Pin 8? ?4.2 Pin 9? 3.7 Pin 10 7.6 Measured? with a Fluke. The LF level on pin2 (out) and pin4 (in) are about the same with the mic gain i middle position. /Nils SM7DVO
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Re: To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine
Hi, I did a brief check on a working 847: Q 1053 Pin 1? ?3.8 Pin 2? ?1.9 Pin 3? ?3 - 5 depending on mic gain Pin 4? ?3.9 Pin 5? ?gnd Pin 6? ?nc Pin 7? 3.8 Pin 8? ?4.2 Pin 9? 3.7 Pin 10 7.6 Measured? with a Fluke. The LF level on pin2 (out) and pin4 (in) are about the same with the mic gain i middle position. /Nils SM7DVO
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Re: To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine
Adding circuit tat was cut off I
have also added some voltage for Q1063: Pin 1, Pin 3.8V 2, 1.8 Volt, Pin 3, 3.6-4.8V (mic gain control range) Pin4 3.7V Pin 5 earth, Pin6 NC, Pin7 3.7V, Pin 8 4.2V Pin 9 3.6V Pin 10 7.4V?
Pin 2 seems low which is the audio out on the current mirror circuit, but nothing is coming out!
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To TX on SSB any Frequency FM works fine
My basic problem is I seem to have lost Mic audio after Q1053 there is nothing coming out of Pin 4. Pin 4 travels half way around the radio and ends up at Q1038 Pin 6. Q1053 is an electronic attenuator controlled by Pin 3, this does move up and down with the mic gain control.
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If I switch the monitor on I hear my Mic audio coming out the speaker, so this obviously takes another path. Not sure where. There are no voltages or waveforms on the technical supplement, so I have no of knowing what is normal.
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The output of IC Q1063 ends up on Pin 12 on IC 1C1081 (switch) ?which in accessible on the top side of the AF board. The Voltage levels on Q1053 would also be useful, if you can get there and measure them.
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Is there any way anyone could scope a working model and let me know if audio is getting through and roughly the levels? This way I know roughly where my fault lies?
73 Andrew G8UUG
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Updating batter for battery! ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carl KO4SSA via groups.io Sent: 05 March 2022 12:53 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] new, hello? No, does not have 4 meter mod. The resistors on the board don’t seem to be 0 ohm, they’re 1 ohm. ?Have others found this? ?All documentation I can find says it doesn’t matter.?
On Feb 26, 2022, at 10:01 AM, Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote: ? I have enclosed a pic of mine TX ?1.8 to 70 140 to 174 420 to 470 MHz I removed the battery for better pic Avoid Transmitting 30 to 40 MHz as the HF low pass filter will heat up and burn at 100 Watts Does your Japan Model have the 4M UK Mod or not? Also try 111010.? It seems there are different configurations , and possibly conflicting evidence.? I doubt if Yaesu would make a custom IC, just for JA market On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 21:36, Carl KO4SSA via??<cbeaudette99=[email protected]> wrote: press FAST and LOCK, and power up, menu 39 ALL INIT, press MCK/W, Try TX on 144 MHz ?—> ?works Try TX on 147 MHz —> “error" On Feb 25, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Andy Bosworth <sidthepop@...> wrote: On the jumpers try 101011 by jumper number, do? reset after.? Should give HF coverage, 144-148 and 430 -450 On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 19:32, Carl KO4SSA via??<cbeaudette99=[email protected]> wrote: Hi FT-847 fans!!
This is Carl, KO4SSA. I just purchased a used 847 on eBay, from Japan.? I’m wondering how to modify for US bands.? As delivered only TX 144-146 and 430-440. I’ve searched high and low on the the web, including Colin, G1IVG’s page, and emailed him!!? Haven’t heard back.??
I’ve tried several solder joint configurations and will not TX on 146.52 or 445000. About to give up.? Is the Japan stuff transmit range burned into EPROM or something????
Colin lists several HF coverage configurations and I am able to transmit on 14.550!!? (into dummy load of course)? I point out as evidence that changing the solder jumpers did do SOMETHING.? Also, initially the cross-band repeater item was not available on the menu and now it appeared.? More evidence that changing the jumpers did something.
Thanks Carl
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1 OHM is fine, a link and 1 Ohm in this instance is the same thing, probably work fine up to 470 ohm? ? 73 ? Andrew ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carl KO4SSA via groups.io Sent: 05 March 2022 12:53 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] new, hello? No, does not have 4 meter mod. The resistors on the board don’t seem to be 0 ohm, they’re 1 ohm. ?Have others found this? ?All documentation I can find says it doesn’t matter.?
On Feb 26, 2022, at 10:01 AM, Andrew Lenton <a@...> wrote: ? I have enclosed a pic of mine TX ?1.8 to 70 140 to 174 420 to 470 MHz I removed the batter for better pic Avoid Transmitting 30 to 40 MHz as the HF low pass filter will heat up and burn at 100 Watts Does your Japan Model have the 4M UK Mod or not? Also try 111010.? It seems there are different configurations , and possibly conflicting evidence.? I doubt if Yaesu would make a custom IC, just for JA market On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 21:36, Carl KO4SSA via??<cbeaudette99=[email protected]> wrote: press FAST and LOCK, and power up, menu 39 ALL INIT, press MCK/W, Try TX on 144 MHz ?—> ?works Try TX on 147 MHz —> “error" On Feb 25, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Andy Bosworth <sidthepop@...> wrote: On the jumpers try 101011 by jumper number, do? reset after.? Should give HF coverage, 144-148 and 430 -450 On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 19:32, Carl KO4SSA via??<cbeaudette99=[email protected]> wrote: Hi FT-847 fans!!
This is Carl, KO4SSA. I just purchased a used 847 on eBay, from Japan.? I’m wondering how to modify for US bands.? As delivered only TX 144-146 and 430-440. I’ve searched high and low on the the web, including Colin, G1IVG’s page, and emailed him!!? Haven’t heard back.??
I’ve tried several solder joint configurations and will not TX on 146.52 or 445000. About to give up.? Is the Japan stuff transmit range burned into EPROM or something????
Colin lists several HF coverage configurations and I am able to transmit on 14.550!!? (into dummy load of course)? I point out as evidence that changing the solder jumpers did do SOMETHING.? Also, initially the cross-band repeater item was not available on the menu and now it appeared.? More evidence that changing the jumpers did something.
Thanks Carl
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No, does not have 4 meter mod.
The resistors on the board don’t seem to be 0 ohm, they’re 1 ohm. ?Have others found this? ?All documentation I can find says it doesn’t matter.?
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On Feb 26, 2022, at 10:01 AM, Andrew Lenton < a@...> wrote:
I have enclosed a pic of mine TX ?1.8 to 70 140 to 174 420 to 470 MHz I removed the batter for better pic ? ? Avoid Transmitting 30 to 40 MHz as the HF low pass filter will heat up and burn at 100 Watts ? Does your Japan Model have the 4M UK Mod or not? ? 73 ? Andrew ? ? ? Also try 111010.? It seems there are different configurations , and possibly conflicting evidence.? I doubt if Yaesu would make a custom IC, just for JA market ? On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 21:36, Carl KO4SSA via ??<cbeaudette99= [email protected]> wrote: nope, still get “error” press FAST and LOCK, and power up, menu 39 ALL INIT, press MCK/W, Try TX on 144 MHz ?—> ?works Try TX on 147 MHz —> “error"
On Feb 25, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Andy Bosworth < sidthepop@...> wrote: ? On the jumpers try 101011 by jumper number, do? reset after.? Should give HF coverage, 144-148 and 430 -450 ? On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 19:32, Carl KO4SSA via ??<cbeaudette99= [email protected]> wrote: Hi FT-847 fans!!
This is Carl, KO4SSA. I just purchased a used 847 on eBay, from Japan.? I’m wondering how to modify for US bands.? As delivered only TX 144-146 and 430-440. I’ve searched high and low on the the web, including Colin, G1IVG’s page, and emailed him!!? Haven’t heard back.??
I’ve tried several solder joint configurations and will not TX on 146.52 or 445000. About to give up.? Is the Japan stuff transmit range burned into EPROM or something????
Colin lists several HF coverage configurations and I am able to transmit on 14.550!!? (into dummy load of course)? I point out as evidence that changing the solder jumpers did do SOMETHING.? Also, initially the cross-band repeater item was not available on the menu and now it appeared.? More evidence that changing the jumpers did something.
Thanks Carl
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Dear Owners, took delivery of the parts on Saturday and took some time out to fit them today and can report after gutting all the burnt carbon and working the board. New components are in and following Andrews advice set TC1001 to null while checking the other test points.
SWR is 1.02:1 on nearly all bands into a Comet H422 at 3 meters (my test antenna). Working well.
Thanks to everyone who participated and hope I can return the favour in the future. See the repair which was challenging and used non conductive glue to stick down the core and prevent it moving.
Before
After
I know the board still looks burned but it’s back to good FR4 I assure you. The photo doesn’t do it justice.
73 and hope to catch you all in my log soon.
De Spence M0STO
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I have enclosed a pic of mine TX ?1.8 to 70 140 to 174 420 to 470 MHz I removed the batter for better pic ? ? Avoid Transmitting 30 to 40 MHz as the HF low pass filter will heat up and burn at 100 Watts ? Does your Japan Model have the 4M UK Mod or not? ? 73 ? Andrew ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Bosworth Sent: 26 February 2022 00:01 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] new, hello? Also try 111010.? It seems there are different configurations , and possibly conflicting evidence.? I doubt if Yaesu would make a custom IC, just for JA market ? On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 21:36, Carl KO4SSA via <cbeaudette99=[email protected]> wrote: nope, still get “error” press FAST and LOCK, and power up, menu 39 ALL INIT, press MCK/W, Try TX on 144 MHz ?—> ?works Try TX on 147 MHz —> “error"
On Feb 25, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Andy Bosworth <sidthepop@...> wrote: ? On the jumpers try 101011 by jumper number, do? reset after.? Should give HF coverage, 144-148 and 430 -450 ? On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 19:32, Carl KO4SSA via <cbeaudette99=[email protected]> wrote: Hi FT-847 fans!!
This is Carl, KO4SSA. I just purchased a used 847 on eBay, from Japan.? I’m wondering how to modify for US bands.? As delivered only TX 144-146 and 430-440. I’ve searched high and low on the the web, including Colin, G1IVG’s page, and emailed him!!? Haven’t heard back.?
I’ve tried several solder joint configurations and will not TX on 146.52 or 445000. About to give up.? Is the Japan stuff transmit range burned into EPROM or something????
Colin lists several HF coverage configurations and I am able to transmit on 14.550!!? (into dummy load of course)? I point out as evidence that changing the solder jumpers did do SOMETHING.? Also, initially the cross-band repeater item was not available on the menu and now it appeared.? More evidence that changing the jumpers did something.
Thanks Carl
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