Re: CAT - Control - Yet another post
Hi Ravi, you are right about the serial number coding. Only, a number starting with a "4" is not older than one starting with an "8" as the production started in 1998 and "8" therefore was the first production year. So, the sequence is (199)8,(199)9,(200)0,(200)1,(200)2,(200)3,(200)4 and finally the year 2005.
Maybe it is easier to first get the serial data working with a simple RS232 link to a normal PC running WSJT-X or something. If that works, you can tackle the RigPi problem with more confidence.
Hi, Douglas, Bruno
I've used a Serial to USB cable to connect the rig to the Raspberry Pi
and the laptop. In both cases, the 'CAT' comes up on the rig, but
programs fail to complete the connection.
The Serial number that I made reference to was from a post:
"...Yaesu appears to use the following format for serial numbers on their
amateur products:
Year of manufacture-Month of manufacture-Production Run-Individual Unit
number, where the month of manufacture is offset by 2, so "C" means January,
"D" means February, "E" means March, and so forth.
Example: 8G051234 = 1998, May (fifth month, or "G"), Production Run 05, unit
#1234 in this run.
One key serial number range is 8G05. This seems to be the point at which
Yaesu had corrected the bi-directional CAT issue and made some other
improvements. This version was made in May 1998. Later serial numbers (e.g.,
8L09nnnn) all seem to have incorporated the earlier improvements plus new
ones...."
That would mean that the port was unidirectional prior to this, my
serial number is "4M950027", hence I was wondering what data is? that
the rig was sending back to the CommsTest program when tuning across a
band.
Thanks.
Ravi
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 00:45, on6ab <bruno.beckers@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ravi,
>
> What is there unfortunate about your serial number?
> As far as I can tell, your FT847 is a november 2004 model which makes it one of the last ones (2005) produced.
>
> 73, Bruno
>
> Op do 10 feb. 2022 om 00:04 schreef Ravi Miranda <ravimiranda@...>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been trying to connect my FT-847 to my RigPi. After a few unsuccessful attempts (many), I then tried to use flrig via a USB (CH340), CAT-847, FTBCAT and FTBASICMMO.
>>
>> In some cases, the 'CAT' symbol appeared on the rig, but the radio failed to connect. I've read the posts on the serial number saga and unfortunately my serial number is 4M950027.
>>
>> Anyway, while trying out the programs above, I found something called CommsTester and this allowed me to 'see' the incoming data while tuning the rig.This is what is see:
>>
>> CommTest Version 1.1.8
>> Received FF00 on COM 5
>> Received 20FE00 on COM 5
>> Received 20FA00 on COM 5
>> Received 20FE00 on COM 5
>> Received 20FA00 on COM 5
>> Received 20F600 on COM 5
>> Received 20F200 on COM 5
>> Received 20EE00 on COM 5
>> Received 20EA00 on COM 5
>> Received 20E600 on COM 5
>> Received 20E200 on COM 5
>>
>> I haven't been able to decode the data yet, but would this kind of patch work? See
>> See: Mon Jun 9 23:09:52 CDT 2014 [CC-USB232 ]
>>
>> Yaesu have just mentioned that they do not support the firmware update at present. Are there any other avenues open for me? Many thanks
>> Ravi
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: CAT - Control - Yet another post
Hi, Douglas, Bruno
I've used a Serial to USB cable to connect the rig to the Raspberry Pi
and the laptop. In both cases, the 'CAT' comes up on the rig, but
programs fail to complete the connection.
The Serial number that I made reference to was from a post:
"...Yaesu appears to use the following format for serial numbers on their
amateur products:
Year of manufacture-Month of manufacture-Production Run-Individual Unit
number, where the month of manufacture is offset by 2, so "C" means January,
"D" means February, "E" means March, and so forth.
Example: 8G051234 = 1998, May (fifth month, or "G"), Production Run 05, unit
#1234 in this run.
One key serial number range is 8G05. This seems to be the point at which
Yaesu had corrected the bi-directional CAT issue and made some other
improvements. This version was made in May 1998. Later serial numbers (e.g.,
8L09nnnn) all seem to have incorporated the earlier improvements plus new
ones...."
That would mean that the port was unidirectional prior to this, my
serial number is "4M950027", hence I was wondering what data is that
the rig was sending back to the CommsTest program when tuning across a
band.
Thanks.
Ravi
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 00:45, on6ab <bruno.beckers@...> wrote:
Hi Ravi,
What is there unfortunate about your serial number?
As far as I can tell, your FT847 is a november 2004 model which makes it one of the last ones (2005) produced.
73, Bruno
Op do 10 feb. 2022 om 00:04 schreef Ravi Miranda <ravimiranda@...>:
Hi,
I have been trying to connect my FT-847 to my RigPi. After a few unsuccessful attempts (many), I then tried to use flrig via a USB (CH340), CAT-847, FTBCAT and FTBASICMMO.
In some cases, the 'CAT' symbol appeared on the rig, but the radio failed to connect. I've read the posts on the serial number saga and unfortunately my serial number is 4M950027.
Anyway, while trying out the programs above, I found something called CommsTester and this allowed me to 'see' the incoming data while tuning the rig.This is what is see:
CommTest Version 1.1.8
Received FF00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20F600 on COM 5
Received 20F200 on COM 5
Received 20EE00 on COM 5
Received 20EA00 on COM 5
Received 20E600 on COM 5
Received 20E200 on COM 5
I haven't been able to decode the data yet, but would this kind of patch work? See
See: Mon Jun 9 23:09:52 CDT 2014 [CC-USB232 ]
Yaesu have just mentioned that they do not support the firmware update at present. Are there any other avenues open for me? Many thanks
Ravi
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I'm here to add more value to the world than I'm using up.
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Re: CAT - Control - Yet another post
Hi Ravi,
What is there unfortunate about your serial number? As far as I can tell, your FT847 is a november 2004 model which makes it one of the last ones (2005) produced.
73, Bruno
Hi,?
I have been trying to connect my FT-847 to my RigPi. After a few unsuccessful attempts (many), I then tried to use flrig via a USB (CH340), CAT-847, FTBCAT and FTBASICMMO.
In some cases, the 'CAT' symbol appeared on the rig, but the radio failed to connect. I've read the posts on the serial number saga and unfortunately my serial number is 4M950027.?
Anyway, while trying out the programs above, I found something called CommsTester and this allowed me to 'see' the incoming data while tuning the rig.This is what is see:
CommTest Version 1.1.8
Received FF00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20F600 on COM 5
Received 20F200 on COM 5
Received 20EE00 on COM 5
Received 20EA00 on COM 5
Received 20E600 on COM 5
Received 20E200 on COM 5
I haven't been able to decode the data yet, but would this kind of patch work? See?
See:?Mon Jun 9 23:09:52 CDT 2014 [CC-USB232?]
Yaesu have just mentioned that they do not support the firmware update at present. Are there any other avenues open for me? Many thanks
Ravi
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Re: CAT - Control - Yet another post
I know that this is an obvious question, but are you using a null
modem cable to connect from the PC to radio?
I've been using my Ft-847 for 2-3 years with a null modem cable
on HRD and have had no problems.
I let the computer boot up, turn on the radio, then open HRD. No
problem.
Good luck.
Douglas VE3FFR
On 2/9/2022 5:49 PM, Ravi Miranda
wrote:
Hi,?
I have been trying to connect my FT-847 to my RigPi. After a few
unsuccessful attempts (many), I then tried to use flrig via a USB
(CH340), CAT-847, FTBCAT and FTBASICMMO.
In some cases, the 'CAT' symbol appeared on the rig, but the radio
failed to connect. I've read the posts on the serial number saga
and unfortunately my serial number is 4M950027.?
Anyway, while trying out the programs above, I found something
called CommsTester and this allowed me to 'see' the incoming data
while tuning the rig.This is what is see:
CommTest Version 1.1.8
Received FF00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20F600 on COM 5
Received 20F200 on COM 5
Received 20EE00 on COM 5
Received 20EA00 on COM 5
Received 20E600 on COM 5
Received 20E200 on COM 5
I haven't been able to decode the data yet, but would this
kind of patch work? See?
See:?Mon Jun 9 23:09:52 CDT 2014 [CC-USB232?]
Yaesu have just mentioned that they do not support the
firmware update at present. Are there any other avenues open for
me? Many thanks
Ravi
--
73
Douglas Richards VE3FFR
ve3ffr@...
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CAT - Control - Yet another post
Hi,? I have been trying to connect my FT-847 to my RigPi. After a few unsuccessful attempts (many), I then tried to use flrig via a USB (CH340), CAT-847, FTBCAT and FTBASICMMO. In some cases, the 'CAT' symbol appeared on the rig, but the radio failed to connect. I've read the posts on the serial number saga and unfortunately my serial number is 4M950027.? Anyway, while trying out the programs above, I found something called CommsTester and this allowed me to 'see' the incoming data while tuning the rig.This is what is see:
CommTest Version 1.1.8
Received FF00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20FE00 on COM 5
Received 20FA00 on COM 5
Received 20F600 on COM 5
Received 20F200 on COM 5
Received 20EE00 on COM 5
Received 20EA00 on COM 5
Received 20E600 on COM 5
Received 20E200 on COM 5
I haven't been able to decode the data yet, but would this kind of patch work? See?
See:?Mon Jun 9 23:09:52 CDT 2014 [CC-USB232?]
Yaesu have just mentioned that they do not support the firmware update at present. Are there any other avenues open for me? Many thanks
Ravi
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Re: 60 Meter Transmit Mod Info Wanted
might change out the memory battery while in there
since the memory will get wiped
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Re: 60 Meter Transmit Mod Info Wanted
the HF mod it self looks pretty simple??
since the rig has the AK emergency frequency in the firmware
I am supposing that it must have? the band pass filters in place to cover 60M??
or are we going to cook relays and the finals ?
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Re: FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
Hi Frank
I used the TC1001 adjustment several years ago.? No big deal once you find TC1001.? I my case I was off about 1700 hz on 432.? Got it alot close but without the dropper test equipment, can't say exactly. Couple of hints.? Make sure the Ft847 is fully warned up as there is a slight drift from a cold start.? Can't remember exactly where the TC control is located but remember you remove the bottom cover to access.? Think it near the front, but not sure.?
73,
Tom K6EU
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 1:41 PM Frank < hb9oab@...> wrote: Has anyone tried the "simple" tips of the TC1001 described?
Any other method?
73
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60 Meter Transmit Mod Info Wanted
Hi folks, I just found this group and am a newbie to it.
I have owned an FT-847 since new from 1999 and would like to know how to open the transmit for 60 Meters. As you know, 60 M was unavailable for use back then unless you were authorized for MARS/CAP, but the FCC has opened up this 5 MHz band in 2003 or 2004 for amateur use per the band plan.
I have seen several mods that seem different from each other. Does anyone have a known reliable mod for a U.S. FT-847?
Thanks in advance,
Mark/AE1MS
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Re: FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
Has anyone tried the "simple" tips of the TC1001 described?
Any other method?
73
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Re: FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
Yes 250Hz are few but still too many ...
Has anyone used the system described here or knows if it can produce problems, if there are other solutions or if this is the solution?
?
It doesn't seem that complicated with the right gear.
I have read about this solution on several sites, but before doing so I ask for more information.
73
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Re: FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
Yes, of course it is. ? The adjustment is very touchy and if you are not careful or you will make things worse. ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Micky Corrow
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 12:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YaesuFT847] FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency #tip? Is the adjustment procedure detailed in the Technical Reference (Service Manual)? Micky K1XH
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Re: FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
Is the adjustment procedure detailed in the Technical Reference (Service Manual)?
Micky K1XH
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On 2022-01-22 11:42 AM, Omni wrote:
Your FT-847 is actually in spec.? Per the manual the frequency accuracy for the 847 is at best 2 PPM.? That translates to +/- 870 Hz at the center of the 70cm band, which is 435 MHz.? ?If you want to try and reduce the frequency error you will have to adjust the Reference Oscillator, which will take a very accurate frequency counter that can resolve down to 1 Hz at the reference frequency of 45.250 MHz.? An alternate method would be to Zero Beat the Reference Oscillator against WWV, but that might be a little less accurate.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 4:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YaesuFT847] FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency #tip
?
HI all
With the FT847 in VHF and UHF I have verified that they are off frequency of + 250Hz.
Does anyone know where in the radio I find and how can I correctly calibrate the right frequency?
73
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Re: FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
I am also interested in a solution to this.
Mine is off +200 or so
Micky K1XH
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On 2022-01-22 04:56 AM, Frank wrote:
HI all
With the FT847 in VHF and UHF I have verified that they are off frequency of + 250Hz.
Does anyone know where in the radio I find and how can I correctly calibrate the right frequency?
73
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Re: FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
Your FT-847 is actually in spec.? Per the manual the frequency accuracy for the 847 is at best 2 PPM.? That translates to +/- 870 Hz at the center of the 70cm band, which is 435 MHz.? ?If you want to try and reduce the frequency error you will have to adjust the Reference Oscillator, which will take a very accurate frequency counter that can resolve down to 1 Hz at the reference frequency of 45.250 MHz.? An alternate method would be to Zero Beat the Reference Oscillator against WWV, but that might be a little less accurate. ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 4:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YaesuFT847] FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency #tip ? HI all
With the FT847 in VHF and UHF I have verified that they are off frequency of + 250Hz. Does anyone know where in the radio I find and how can I correctly calibrate the right frequency?
73
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FT847 calibrate the V / U frequency
#tip
HI all
With the FT847 in VHF and UHF I have verified that they are off frequency of + 250Hz.
Does anyone know where in the radio I find and how can I correctly calibrate the right frequency?
73
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Re: Kuhne QH40A crystal heater problem
Hi, as stated before, a crystal, manufactured to be used at room temperature is not very well suited to put in an oven. Below you see a typical stability range of such a crystal. If you put this crystal in an oven at 40 degrees, you're trying to keep it stable at a non-stable temperature. Not exactly a smart thing to do. Crystals to put in a 40 degrees oven are MADE for this, they will show the flat part of the curve at 40 degrees, not at 20 degrees.
i made the sleeping bag for both of my 847s keeps the swing down to pretty low numbersI made a homebrew crystal heater for my TEN-TEC 526out of a little metal clip and a 40C Positive Temperature Coefficient ThermistorAmphenol #?YQS5745PTO? ?it has a 3C temp swing around 43C
just did not find that necessary on the 847
maybe if one was driving a transverter it might require more help
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Re: Kuhne QH40A crystal heater problem
i made the sleeping bag for both of my 847s keeps the swing down to pretty low numbersI made a homebrew crystal heater for my TEN-TEC 526out of a little metal clip and a 40C Positive Temperature Coefficient ThermistorAmphenol #?YQS5745PTO? ?it has a 3C temp swing around 43C
just did not find that necessary on the 847
maybe if one was driving a transverter it might require more help
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Re: S9 noise on HF with or without antenna
Hi Bill and thanks for the reply. I had a little nose inside and injected a smallish signal and found that there was stray RF on the IF from the G4HUP PAT board I fitted many years ago.? ? I feel a bit silly now as the PAT board has worked flawlessly but for some reason I was getting some IMD and broadcast FM from the 3m band. I really love my FT847 and I have a spare (A2 US Import and C2 UK specifications) and I really don’t want to see them damaged. So I’ve taken out both PAT board (IF tap and 2nd receiver) and they are now in the trash. The main problem is the IF was being overloaded even though I was using the 2nd receiver PAT board and not the IF tap for Panadapter.
? Thanks for the heads up but this is resolved and I doubt I will be re-visiting the PAN adapter anytime soon.
De Spence M0STO? Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 5 Jan 2022, at 12:29, Bill < k2wh@...> wrote: Not sure of the FT847, but does it have a function or ability to turn off the AGC ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Spence M0STO via
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 3:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YaesuFT847] S9 noise on HF with or without antenna ? Dear Group, I have a bit of a strange question. My FT847 has nothing but S9 of noise on HF (I work mostly satellite these days so only just noticed it). I tried all bands but seem to be blighted with an S9 signal with or without the antenna connected. The other issue is when I tune to a strong AM station in the lower broadcast band 2.2mhz seemed to be the strongest +50db on AM but the audio is dreadful and sounds splattered, clipped and inaudiable. I have been using a passive loop on HF and I’m fearing DC or a strong signal has landed in the front end and done damage.?
Before I tear my radio apart to resolve this I wondered if anyone had pointers. I know the FT897 used to suffer with S9 all the time due to the 455khz ceramic filters going bad but don’t think the FT847 uses them.
? Any help would be really appreciated.
thanks in advanced,
de Spence M0STO?
see below the test gear on hand to resolve this.
test gear:
Marconi 2955 radio test set
Marconi 2022 Signal Generator
Rigol DSA1030A spectrum analyser
Phillips 3833 60mhz Scope
AF generator?
VVM
logic probe etc.
GDO
-- Bill, K2WH
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Re: S9 noise on HF with or without antenna
Not sure of the FT847, but does it have a function or ability to turn off the AGC ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Spence M0STO via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 3:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YaesuFT847] S9 noise on HF with or without antenna ? Dear Group, I have a bit of a strange question. My FT847 has nothing but S9 of noise on HF (I work mostly satellite these days so only just noticed it). I tried all bands but seem to be blighted with an S9 signal with or without the antenna connected. The other issue is when I tune to a strong AM station in the lower broadcast band 2.2mhz seemed to be the strongest +50db on AM but the audio is dreadful and sounds splattered, clipped and inaudiable. I have been using a passive loop on HF and I’m fearing DC or a strong signal has landed in the front end and done damage.?
Before I tear my radio apart to resolve this I wondered if anyone had pointers. I know the FT897 used to suffer with S9 all the time due to the 455khz ceramic filters going bad but don’t think the FT847 uses them.
? Any help would be really appreciated.
thanks in advanced,
de Spence M0STO?
see below the test gear on hand to resolve this.
test gear:
Marconi 2955 radio test set
Marconi 2022 Signal Generator
Rigol DSA1030A spectrum analyser
Phillips 3833 60mhz Scope
AF generator?
VVM
logic probe etc.
GDO
-- Bill, K2WH
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Frank
Spence G5STO
Bill