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W0NE Winlink Net Reminder
Hi All,
It's almost time for our weekly Winlink net.? This week we will try a simple exercise. To check in this week, if your client supports it, please try to check in using the "Winlink Check-In" form found under "General Forms." If you haven't used forms before, A nice tutorial for using Winlink Express is here:?? A tutorial for PAT can be found here:?? Since a lot of check-ins are still using Telnet, use the comments field to note any roadblocks to checking in over radio.? I will share these comments with the group after the net and hopefully some of the elmers in the group can offer some help or suggestions. If your client doesn't support forms, feel free to use the standard 1-line check in format we have used the past couple of weeks.? Feel free to leave any comments below the check-in line. As always, send your message to W0NE@.... 73, Ben - KU0HN |
W0NE Winlink Net Roster - Week #3
We had 12 check-ins this week with a few comments.? If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to share.
Since we didn't do the usual check-in format in the check-in form I'm going to just list the callsign and any comments. Here is this week's roster: KF0S - Eric - First time using forms and the UI in PAT. Good additional small item for me to learn this week.? Using Telnet as I haven't tried hooking my computer to one of my radios again. New hardware, different OS, and lack of time from when I did this is the past. I do have access to a D700 and also a MFJ TNC connected to an older ICOM mobile I had set up long ago. I do believe I have a USB-Serial dongle that should work.? KC9LLI - Bruce KF9CP - Paul KD9KGQ - Shawn KD9POL - Rodney KD9CZM - Chris -?Trying over HF. What are good gateways to choose from??? KD9GVS - Rick W9GM - Ken? K0GMK - Mark K0WLO - Wayne - Telnet only because not usually near a shack on Thursdays?? KE0EXE - Bob - Running Winlink on PC because do not know yet how to use HF radio to send to a node.? Also not yet easy to hook up good HF antenna.? Do have good, local, 2m FM capability and a laptop in Shack; "acoustic" is my only, viable coupling-means, for now.?? Eric,? If you get the time to work on the setup and need help let me know.? I've been running Pat for a few years now. Chris, Are you running PAT or Winlink Express?? Winlink Express has built in propagation forecasts that I have found are very useful for finding an HF gateway.? I typically use PAT which doesn't have this feature.? Here are some of the gateways I use regularly.? Of course success will vary with antennas, solar conditions, time of day, etc... so it's something you just have to get a feel for. 80 meters, day time:? N0LCR-1, NU9R, K0SI 40 meters: K0SI, K9BBS, WD5EED, KD0SFY 20 meters: KD0SFY I see Ken has been using?VA3EOA for the past few check-ins so that might be a good option to try as well.? If anyone has any favorite HF gateways, feel free to share. Bob, what radios are you running?? Maybe someone will have a good suggestion on an interface for your VHF radio. 73 and see you all next week. Ben - KU0HN |
Re: W0NE Winlink Net Roster - Week #3
Gettuit
开云体育For VHF, I’m using a Yaesu FT-2500M [2m radio], if anyone knows a way to connect it to a Windows 10 Pro or Windows xp Pro laptop, for using Winlink Express (or another method?)… -Bob KE0EXE On Oct 13, 2023, at 21:27, Ben Kuhn via groups.io <ku0hn@...> wrote:
?We had 12 check-ins this week with a few comments.? If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to share. Since we didn't do the usual check-in format in the check-in form I'm going to just list the callsign and any comments. Here is this week's roster: KF0S - Eric - First time using forms and the UI in PAT. Good additional small item for me to learn this week.? Using Telnet as I haven't tried hooking my computer to one of my radios again. New hardware, different OS, and lack of time from when I did this is the past. I do have access to a D700 and also a MFJ TNC connected to an older ICOM mobile I had set up long ago. I do believe I have a USB-Serial dongle that should work.? KC9LLI - Bruce KF9CP - Paul KD9KGQ - Shawn KD9POL - Rodney KD9CZM - Chris -?Trying over HF. What are good gateways to choose from??? KD9GVS - Rick W9GM - Ken? K0GMK - Mark K0WLO - Wayne - Telnet only because not usually near a shack on Thursdays?? KE0EXE - Bob - Running Winlink on PC because do not know yet how to use HF radio to send to a node.? Also not yet easy to hook up good HF antenna.? Do have good, local, 2m FM capability and a laptop in Shack; "acoustic" is my only, viable coupling-means, for now.?? Eric,? If you get the time to work on the setup and need help let me know.? I've been running Pat for a few years now. Chris, Are you running PAT or Winlink Express?? Winlink Express has built in propagation forecasts that I have found are very useful for finding an HF gateway.? I typically use PAT which doesn't have this feature.? Here are some of the gateways I use regularly.? Of course success will vary with antennas, solar conditions, time of day, etc... so it's something you just have to get a feel for. 80 meters, day time:? N0LCR-1, NU9R, K0SI 40 meters: K0SI, K9BBS, WD5EED, KD0SFY 20 meters: KD0SFY I see Ken has been using?VA3EOA for the past few check-ins so that might be a good option to try as well.? If anyone has any favorite HF gateways, feel free to share. Bob, what radios are you running?? Maybe someone will have a good suggestion on an interface for your VHF radio. 73 and see you all next week. Ben - KU0HN |
Connect Yaesu FT-2400M to computer
Hi Bob,
Both digirig and Tigertronics (SignaLink) offer a variety of cables.? You can of course make up your own. |
Re: Connect Yaesu FT-2400M to computer
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Re: Connect Yaesu FT-2400M to computer
Gettuit
开云体育Interesting, Mark—thanks for info.? I got to thinking that maybe I had a SignaLink around here somewhere, that I got through W0STV, but can’t put my fingers on it tonight. ?I’m afraid that maybe it got sold again. ?If anyone has a used TNC that works, I will consider buying it from you; good, clean equipment only, please. ?Reply to: ? robert.andre@...? It looks like I can then order a quality cable for my VHF radio, for about $20. -Bob KE0EXE? On Oct 15, 2023, at 13:44, Mark Kelm via groups.io <gmarkkelm@...> wrote:
?The VARA HF gateway I use on 40m is in Rockford, IL. ? Mark G. Mark Kelm de?K?GMK On Oct 15, 2023, at 13:23, W9GM, Ken <ken@...> wrote:
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Re: Connect Yaesu FT-2400M to computer
I second Ken's suggestions, including the preference for a sound card interface to a dedicated TNC (outside of mobile where simplicity is preferred).
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I actually prefer the Digirig to the SignaLink for most applications since it can also do CAT for supported rigs and it doesn't use vox which needs a little (1 time to be fair) adjustment. It's also half the price. I also use quite a few easy-digi boards for some applications. They can get to be a bit more homebrew but in some cases like on a Raspberry Pi or other single board computer it's convenient to use the GPIO pins to drive PTT. On a PC, if you have to buy a USB serial adapter for PTT, and a USB sound card, plus an easy-digi boards you are most of the way to a Digirig in terms of price. 73, Ben KU0HN -------- Original Message -------- On Oct 15, 2023, 9:04?PM, Gettuit < gettuit@...> wrote:
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W0NE Winlink Net Reminder - Week 4
Tomorrow is our weekly Winlink net.
This week let's do a regular check-in either with the check-in form or the normal email body in the following format: Name, Callsign, City, County, State, Country, Mode (and Gateway if applicable) If you use the form, you can put that information in the comments section. Also, feel free to share any projects you are working on--ham related or not--below the check-in information (either in the email body or comments field). For next week's exercise we will be using the position reporting feature if you want to plan ahead. 73, Ben - KU0HN |
Moving/Copying Winlink Express files
Gettuit
开云体育FYI, I successfully copied my Winlink Express emails (and configuration) from one computer to another, today, using the following, simple procedure: ? (And, actually, I even skipped the part about hitting “Finish”—so I did run the program, several times, on the target machine, before I did the file-copying.) This seemed to work fine, for a one-time transfer, if anyone else needs to do this. There is also a way to Export existing, downloaded messages, and then Import them into a different instance of W/E (like on another machine), if you are generally wanting to keep two machines “in sync”—I think it would be painful to do this on a regular basis, but once in a while might be okay. ?This way, the configuration parameters would not be overwritten, too, like they are if the whole directory is simply copied (like I did). -Bob KE0EXE? |
Re: Moving/Copying Winlink Express files
Hey Bob,
Thanks for sharing your experience with this, and it's good to know it can be done with Winlink Express. One of the headline features of PAT (my client of choice) is that the mailbox is stored in a standard file format that can be automatically synced between machines with a cloud or peer-to-peer syncing service of your choice (like Dropbox). Ben - KU0HN |
W0NE Winlink Net Results - Week 4
We had 10 check-ins this week, It looks like a few more check-ins over RF this week as well.
Bob, KE0EXE,Rochester, Olmsted, MN, USA, Telnet via CMS. Location from GPS, manually-entered.? All good learning for me:? right amount, at right pace!?? Chris, KD9CZM, Holmen, La Crosse, WI, USA, ARDOP Using N0LCR at 7.102 -- Project I'm working on is to play around with my HP VR headset and productivity tools so I can have a virtual environment with all my desktop applications easily accessible in a Minority Report sort of fashion. I'd love to be able to use JS8Call and WSJTX? in a virtual environment with multiple screens. KI6NAZ did a video about how he did it back in 2022 so I'm going to give it a try too.?
Lance Tagliapietra, AD0UT, Winona, Winona, Minnesota, U.S.A, Telnet
Ken, W9GM, Marquette, Marquette, MI, USA, VARA HF Note:? No projects currently?
Wayne, K0WLO, Madison, Dane, WI, USA, Telnet
Mark, K0GMK, Rochester, Olmsted, MN, USA, VARA HF
Collin, AA0CN, Rochester, Olmsted, MN, USA, Vara-HF, via N5TW
Shawn, KD9KGQ, Holmen, La Crosse County, WI, USA, VARA HF
Eric Van Norman, KF0S, Rochester, Olmsted, MN, telnet, My other hobby is R/C aircraft. While it's getting late in the season for spending a lot of time at the airfield, I will replace the floats on one plane with skis for winter flying.??
Ben, KU0HN, Lewiston, Winona, MN, USA, HF Ardop, I finally got the 6 meter Antenna installed for the packet node and NPR modem.? Now I just have to get the radio interface built. It looks like there are some very interesting projects going on in the group. Next week we will do a location report, and my homework is going to be to figure out how to make a nice map for the results the next day. 73, Ben - KU0HN |
Re: Connect Yaesu FT-2400M to computer
Bob - KE0EXE
开云体育I’ve decided to try the Digirig. ?I have bought a 1-of-4 switch box for the 8-pin RJ-45-style cables and also the special cable for my Yaesu Ft-2500M—about $50 total. ?So, now I think I only need to order the Digirig unit, itself, to have all the hardware I need. ?In a few weeks, I hope to check-in (via VARA-FM?) on 2m. Thanks for the info, Ken and Ben.? -Bob KE0EXE? On Oct 15, 2023, at 21:52, Ben Kuhn via groups.io <ku0hn@...> wrote:
?I second Ken's suggestions, including the preference for a sound card interface to a dedicated TNC (outside of mobile where simplicity is preferred). I actually prefer the Digirig to the SignaLink for most applications since it can also do CAT for supported rigs and it doesn't use vox which needs a little (1 time to be fair) adjustment. It's also half the price. I also use quite a few easy-digi boards for some applications. They can get to be a bit more homebrew but in some cases like on a Raspberry Pi or other single board computer it's convenient to use the GPIO pins to drive PTT. On a PC, if you have to buy a USB serial adapter for PTT, and a USB sound card, plus an easy-digi boards you are most of the way to a Digirig in terms of price. 73, Ben KU0HN -------- Original Message -------- On Oct 15, 2023, 9:04?PM, Gettuit < gettuit@...> wrote:
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W0NE Winlink Net Reminder - Week 5
It's time, once again, to check in to the weekly Winlink net.
This week let's use the net check-in template again, but I will send a map on Friday with the reported locations. To access the template on Winlink Express, do the following: Click on the Message -> New Message menu item. Click on Select Template and then expand Standard Templates. Double click on either the GENERAL Forms or the MAPPING-GIS FORMS item to open it, then double click on Winlink Check In.txt.? The form will open in your default browser. On PAT, do the following: Click Action -> Compose Click "Template" Click on either the GENERAL Forms or the MAPPING-GIS FORMS item to open it, then double click on Winlink Check In.txt.? The form will open in your default browser. Fill out the form as usual.? In the Send To field, enter W0NE. In the location, enter a description of your location. In the Latitude and Longitude fields, enter your FPS coordinates.? You can find them on Google Maps or other mapping apps if you don't have a GPS handy.? Feel free to fudge them a little if you don't want your QTH on the map. In the comments field, enter the usual check-in data: Name, Callsign, City, County, State, Country, Mode (and Gateway if applicable) In the second line, feel free to make any suggestions for anything you would like to see in future exercise, whether it is something new you want to learn or just a good idea you have seen on other nets. My homework will be to use the GPS data to map all the check-ins and I will send out a link to the map on Friday. 73, Ben - KU0HN |
W0NE Winlink Net Results - Week 5
We only had 8 check-ins this week, although significantly more over RF which is good progress.
As promised, here is the map of the results for those that included their location: I learned a bit making the map.? When I sent my own check-in using PAT, some of the messages came in there, and some came in later when I was checking results with Winlink Express.? Winlink Express has a neat export feature I wanted to try out for mapping, but since the first few check-ins were in PAT I had to do some manual data manipulation.? Next time I'll know better. The full roster is below: Ben, KU0HN, Lewiston, Winona, MN, USA, VHF Packet
Eric Van Norman, KF0S, Rochester, MN, Olmsted, Mom USA, Telnet? Will be interesting to see the map.
Ken, W9GM, La Crosse, La Crosse, WI, VARA HF, VA3EMN When more people are onboard or up to speed, try P2P sessions. Otherwise keep up with what you are doing. Glad to have the local net. 73, Ken W9GM
Mark, K0GMK, Rochester, Olmsted, MN, VARA HF, Icom ic-7300, Diamond BB7V Vertical antenna on back patio at 23'
Chris Muller, KD9CZM, La Crosse, WI, USA, Vara FM Still experimenting with VR productivity software and how to create a virtual environment for playing radio Boney Joseph, NA0SA, ROCHESTER, OLMSTED, MN, USA, RadioMail app on iOS, New Ham. Learning. Happy to be here. On vacation currently.
K0NY - Early Check-In while doing some testing KF0ACN - Late Check-in but Packet Winlink was working from his QTH with the new antenna on 145.030 at Witoka.? This was not previously possible from central Winona. On a side note, I always try to get my outdoor projects finished up "before the snow flies" which may just be tomorrow, so it looks like I'm behind schedule again this year.? 73 and see you next week. Ben - KU0HN |
Re: W0NE Winlink Net Results - Week 5
开云体育Thanks Ben for the Net!Next time I’m going to have to double check the coordinates WinLink inserts based upon the truncated EN34sb before I submit. That being said my error indicates that I live in the Rochester Public Utilities parking lot… ? ? 73 Mark G. Mark Kelm de?K?GMK On Oct 27, 2023, at 18:23, Ben Kuhn via groups.io <ku0hn@...> wrote:
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W0NE Winlink Net Reminder- Week 6
Hello everyone,
It's time for our weekly check-in.? Since the weather is always a favorite topic for hams to complain about, there is a Winlink form for that!? Since this week's weather has been worthy of complaints, you can use this form for your check-in. The form is found under Weather Forms -> local weather report. Feel free to use data from whatever sources are available.? If you have a weather station or other measurement equipment, feel free to use it, otherwise internet forecast data is fine.? If you enter GPS coordinates I will map the data again this week. In the Notes section, include the regular check-in line: Name, Callsign, City, County, State, Country, Mode (and Gateway if applicable) If you are mobile or don't have forms, you are still always welcome to check in with the usual data in the body of a message. 73, Ben KU0HN? |
Re: W0NE Winlink Net Reminder- Week 6
开云体育Hi Ben, I had to lend my computer that I use for Ham radio to the bookkeeper at our church.? She may have it for some time.? I will try to catch up again when I have my computer back. 73, Rod KD9POL ? I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. If only you were cold or hot!?? ?So, because you are lukewarm and not hot or cold, I am about to spit you out of my mouth.?? (Revelation 3:15-16) ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Ben Kuhn via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 9:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [W0NE-Winlink-Net] W0NE Winlink Net Reminder- Week 6 ? Hello everyone, |
Re: W0NE Winlink Net Reminder- Week 6
Bob - KE0EXE
开云体育? Hi Ben,? In case I forget to check in again: ?I’m in a very busy time, on Thursdays right now, away from my normal check-in PC… Anyway, my Digirig and “Yaesu FT-2500M cable” arrived, so it’s all just waiting to be set up and to try with VARA-FM. Weather: ?I’ve appreciated the highs up into the 40’s (I think?), this week! -Bob, KE0EXE, Rochester, Olmsted, MN, USA, “email, groups.io” checkin.? —————————- ?<ku0hn@...> wrote: ?Hello everyone, It's time for our weekly check-Since the weather is always a favorite topic for hams to complain about, there is a Winlink form for that!? Since this week's weather has been worthy of complaints, you can use this form for your check-in. The form is found under Weather Forms -> local weather report. Feel free to use data from whatever sources are available.? If you have a weather station or other measurement equipment, feel free to use it, otherwise internet forecast data is fine.? If you enter GPS coordinates I will map the data again this week. In the Notes section, include the regular check-in line: Name, Callsign, City, County, State, Country, Mode (and Gateway if applicable) If you are mobile or don't have forms, you are still always welcome to check in with the usual data in the body of a message. 73, Ben KU0HN? |
W0ne Winlink Net Results - Week 6
We had a pretty good turn-out this week.? I think I heard from everyone in the list, even if a couple of people couldn't check in this week.
We also had quite the DX check-in from NA0SA using Radiomail--no form, but the GPS location did work.? You will have to check the map to see where he checked in from. Here is the map of results:?? Since we have done forms the last couple of weeks, I think next week's activity will be a challenge to use VHF packet (if you can) to connect through an intermediate node, either digipeating or with a connect script.? I'll plan to send out some instructions next week. See you all next week. 73, Ben - KU0HN |
Net times
I figured I'd start a new topic for this in case there is some discussion...
I have heard from a few people that Thursdays aren't ideal for this net because of work schedules.? I picked Thursday out of thin air, so I'm open to changing it if it could help people participate more easily.? We could change the day, or maybe open the check-in period up to two or three days.? If you have an opinion please let me know. 73, Ben - KU0HN |