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Vladimir On 5/5/2011 3:38 PM, brian whatcott wrote:
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开云体育what is the pricezafar To: VacuumX@... From: chutko@... Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:26:21 -0700 Subject: [VacuumX] Vacuum Chamber for sale ? Hi All, I am in urgent need to sale vacuum chamber: Leybold A700, framed, with installed gate valve, LN2 trap, two-ways roughing valve, transformer for resistive evaporators, water and compressed air communications. Chamber is clean, painted, gate/valve reassembled and cleaned, no visual defects obtained. Plus some other small staff (feedthroughs, tooling, etc) available. Plus diffusion pump DIP3000 for that chamber - Leybold brand produced in Russia, brand new in manufacturer's not opened package (no oil filled and no heater cartridges installed!). Picture and more detailed information on request. Thanks, Vladimir Chutko |
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B On 5/5/2011 3:26 PM, Vladimir Chutko wrote:
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Vacuum Chamber for sale
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I am in urgent need to sale vacuum chamber: Leybold A700, framed, with installed gate valve, LN2 trap, two-ways roughing valve, transformer for resistive evaporators, water and compressed air communications. Chamber is clean, painted, gate/valve reassembled and cleaned, no visual defects obtained. Plus some other small staff (feedthroughs, tooling, etc) available. Plus diffusion pump DIP3000 for that chamber - Leybold brand produced in Russia, brand new in manufacturer's not opened package (no oil filled and no heater cartridges installed!). Picture and more detailed information on request. Thanks, Vladimir Chutko |
Re: Diffusion pump pumping speed
开云体育Dear AttilaPlease send the patent to my e-mail: zafar1949@... Thanks Zafar To: VacuumX@... From: schneyolo@... Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:39:31 +0000 Subject: [VacuumX] Diffusion pump pumping speed ?
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Because I didn't get reaction and I anyway searched a solution. I found a patent which is an improved diffusion pump description. It gives me answers to my question and gives ideas how to improve the speed of my diffusion pump. If anybody interested, I uploaded the patent pdf in the files section. Regards Attila The Hun |
Diffusion pump pumping speed
Attila
Hi All,
Because I didn't get reaction and I anyway searched a solution. I found a patent which is an improved diffusion pump description. It gives me answers to my question and gives ideas how to improve the speed of my diffusion pump. If anybody interested, I uploaded the patent pdf in the files section. Regards Attila The Hun |
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Diffusion pump pumping speed
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I have a question to diffusion pump, pumping speed. Is there any equation or math to calculate the pumping speed? Or what factors are important to determine the pumping speed. I ask this, because I have a BAlZERS diff. pump wich has a 160mm throat. And it is capable to make 250L/s speed. But I just found the Varian VHS-6, wich has a 6" inlet and capable to 1550L/s pumping speed. The Varian needs the same backing pump capacity like mine Balzers 29cubik meter/hr. At first glance the main difference between mine and the Varian , the Varian has a bulk on the upper quarter. I read somewhere this bulk feature improves the pumping capaicty. If it is tru than why does it. Any idea? Regards Attila The Hun |
Re: coating thickness error tolerance
The photographs are very informative and Baby George is beautiful
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Thanks Deepak --- In VacuumX@..., "Aurigema, Andrew N. (KSC-ESC-620)[QinetiQ North America - ESC]" <andrew.n.aurigema@...> wrote:
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Agreed, there is a crystalline buildup over time of aluminum at the ends of the tungsten filament ,,, I am not at all sure what the thickness OUGHT to be. I found that when I used a lot more aluminum, results were not pretty. Maybe I should experiment again... Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?? ============================ From: "Aurigema, Andrew N. (KSC-ESC-620)[QinetiQ North America - ESC]" To: "VacuumX@..." Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 8:04:39 AM Subject: RE: [VacuumX] coating thickness error tolerance ? Guy, ? I don’t think you can be accurate enough with volume calcs.? There is loss to the emitter itself and there is tungsten mixture losses.? I see a kind of crystalline build up near the ends of my emitters that is a tungsten aluminum kind of mess.? Is getting a thickness indicator totally out of the question ???? They are kinda pricy but if you need exactly 140 nm then I don’t see how you are going to get around it.? ??Check out “K. L. Lesker” they cary a full line of thin film indication systems.? ? Drew ? From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...] On Behalf Of Guy Brandenburg ? ? I am trying to figure out about depositing 140 nm on glass . ? Please recheck this for me. ? I rechecked my measurements, and my arithmetic, and it seems to me that I would need to evaporate 0.044 cm^3 of aluminum to get that thickness, which sounds kinda low. ? The distance from my coil to the mirror is 20" or 50cm. The imaginary sphere with that radius has a surface area of 4*pi*r^2 or 31416 square cm. ? ?To a decent first approximation, the thickness Of the coating will equal the volume of the aluminum being vaporized (in cc) divided by the surface area of that sphere.? ? 140 nm is 140e-9 m or 1.4e-5 cm. That thickness times the surface of 3.1416e4 cm^2 gives me a volume of 0.44 cc. ? The sg of aluminum is about 2.7g/cc. So that volume of aluminum would weigh about 1.2 grams. ? I find by weighing that 7" of my wire weighs (ok, has a mass of) about 4 grams, so 1" would weigh about .6g, which is what I've been using. So my coatings are too thin? |
Re: coating thickness error tolerance
Aurigema, Andrew N. (KSC-ESC-620)[QinetiQ North America - ESC]
开云体育Pics of “baby George” are in the photos section under “Drew in sunny Florida”. ? The door to my chamber swings sideways on a hinge.? I put my mirrors on the door.? The flow of metal gas in my chamber is horizontal ( towards the door ) as opposed to hanging a mirror on ceiling and flowing the metal gas vertically ( upward ).? I do not rotate my mirror.? I have 9 emitter stations in a circle with a center unit.? They are stationary.? Rotation of mirrors is a tricky way of getting an even coating.? If you only have one source, then you have rotationally induced overlap of some kind. ?That overlap may become a problem if the deposition rate is high.? ?In my system, I have 9 sources that each overlap the others to some degree.? The edges of the overlap are very much blended so I don’t see a lot of coating variation.? ?? ? From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...] On Behalf Of deepak
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:13 AM To: VacuumX@... Subject: [VacuumX] Re: coating thickness error tolerance ? ? Thanks Vladimir, Andrew and Guy for making the technicalities clear and giving relevant usage data. |
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Aurigema, Andrew N. (KSC-ESC-620)[QinetiQ North America - ESC]
开云体育Guy, ? I don’t think you can be accurate enough with volume calcs.? There is loss to the emitter itself and there is tungsten mixture losses.? I see a kind of crystalline build up near the ends of my emitters that is a tungsten aluminum kind of mess.? Is getting a thickness indicator totally out of the question ???? They are kinda pricy but if you need exactly 140 nm then I don’t see how you are going to get around it.? ??Check out “K. L. Lesker” they cary a full line of thin film indication systems.? ? Drew ? From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...] On Behalf Of Guy Brandenburg
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:38 PM To: VacuumX@... Cc: VacuumX@... Subject: Re: [VacuumX] coating thickness error tolerance ? ? I am trying to figure out about depositing 140 nm on glass . ? Please recheck this for me. ? I rechecked my measurements, and my arithmetic, and it seems to me that I would need to evaporate 0.044 cm^3 of aluminum to get that thickness, which sounds kinda low. ? The distance from my coil to the mirror is 20" or 50cm. The imaginary sphere with that radius has a surface area of 4*pi*r^2 or 31416 square cm. ? ?To a decent first approximation, the thickness Of the coating will equal the volume of the aluminum being vaporized (in cc) divided by the surface area of that sphere.? ? 140 nm is 140e-9 m or 1.4e-5 cm. That thickness times the surface of 3.1416e4 cm^2 gives me a volume of 0.44 cc. ? The sg of aluminum is about 2.7g/cc. So that volume of aluminum would weigh about 1.2 grams. ? I find by weighing that 7" of my wire weighs (ok, has a mass of) about 4 grams, so 1" would weigh about .6g, which is what I've been using. So my coatings are too thin? |
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Thanks Vladimir, Andrew and Guy for making the technicalities clear and giving relevant usage data.
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Andrew, the term "sideways flow stationary emitter array" seems contradictory to me, do you have a photograph? Guy, Your calculations seem correct to me. One typing error in the third sentence, 0.044cm^3 should have been 0.44cc as mentioned later. Your setup made me think, if emitter is placed at the Radius of curvature of the mirror it will coat the mirror uniformly. Just as illumination from a bulb brought close to a flat wall falls off by 1/r^2 law from the closest point on the wall, the thickness of coating will fall of at the edge. I calculated: If ROC of 20cm dia mirror being coated is 200 cm(F/5), Thickness of film at center proportional to (1/50^2) Edge of mirror raised by 0.25cm with respect to centre. Edge should have been raised by 1.0 cm for ROC of 50cm Difference of 0.75 cm is the distance Al atoms travel farther to reach the mirror. So thickness at edge proportional to (1/50.75^2) So the edge will be 2.925% thinner than the center if emitter is at a distance of 50cm instead of 200 cm. No great error. Thanks and with regards Deepak --- In VacuumX@..., Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@...> wrote:
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I am trying to figure out about depositing 140 nm on glass . Please recheck this for me. I rechecked my measurements, and my arithmetic, and it seems to me that I would need to evaporate 0.044 cm^3 of aluminum to get that thickness, which sounds kinda low. The distance from my coil to the mirror is 20" or 50cm. The imaginary sphere with that radius has a surface area of 4*pi*r^2 or 31416 square cm. ?To a decent first approximation, the thickness Of the coating will equal the volume of the aluminum being vaporized (in cc) divided by the surface area of that sphere.? 140 nm is 140e-9 m or 1.4e-5 cm. That thickness times the surface of 3.1416e4 cm^2 gives me a volume of 0.44 cc. The sg of aluminum is about 2.7g/cc. So that volume of aluminum would weigh about 1.2 grams. I find by weighing that 7" of my wire weighs (ok, has a mass of) about 4 grams, so 1" would weigh about .6g, which is what I've been using. So my coatings are too thin? On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:45 AM, "Aurigema, Andrew N. (KSC-ESC-620)[QinetiQ North America - ESC]"<andrew.n.aurigema@...> wrote:
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From trial and error (not by calculation) I have found that a one-inch long piece of nearly-pure aluminum wire about 3-4 mm in diameter works best for us. (I'll recheck those measurements later) it's about 1/5 to 1/3 cubic cm I think. We have a single tungsten filament about 60 cm from the mirro suspended overhead in our bell jar. I figure, using 4*pi*r^2 for the area of a two foot radius sphere that the aluminum is spread over an area of 45,239 sq cm. Sp this roughly 0.3 cc of Al is spread to a thickness of something like 80 nm if I did all the conversions correctly. As I said, I need to check the weight/mass of the wire that we typically use.? On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:45 AM, "Aurigema, Andrew N. (KSC-ESC-620)[QinetiQ North America - ESC]"<andrew.n.aurigema@...> wrote:
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Re: coating thickness error tolerance
Aurigema, Andrew N. (KSC-ESC-620)[QinetiQ North America - ESC]
开云体育I have a sideways flow stationary emitter array that seems to yield good results.? I recently added a digital thickness indicator to my rig so now have actual numbers to put to the thickness.? Using a witness plate, I am just barely able to see the noon day sun thru the coating with about 140 nm of aluminum deposited.? This number is from my digital thickness unit that Ken Hunter built so I got a lot of faith in the number.? ?I deposit about 10 nm per second and run the unit for about 15 seconds.? ?I personally like to put on more aluminum ( like 350 nm ) because I don’t overcoat and thin coatings don’t last as long.? The experts say ? wave of red 550 nm light? ( around 140 nm ) is ideal.? ?? ? Hope it helps ? Drew in sunny Florida ? From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...] On Behalf Of Vladimir Chutko
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