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Re: weird Sharpie residue


 

I doubt it.?
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Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?
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From: "Thomas Janstrom t_janstrom@... [VacuumX]" To: VacuumX@...
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] weird Sharpie residue

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Guy,

Are you sure the marker tip didn't in fact "polish" a groove into the surface? Some of the felt tip markers use fibre glass for the tip so it might be more abrasive than you expect. Just a thought.

Thomas.

On 22/02/2015 2:43 AM, Guy Brandenburg gfbrandenburg@... [VacuumX] wrote:


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Interesting residue from a Sharpie or Magic Marker on a mirror that I cannot remove before aluminizing it!

Here's how it happened: David C is making a 12.5" mirror and based on ronchi and foucault/couder zonal readings, it looks pretty good. We tried using a wire test, and to do so, I used a Magic Marker to draw a chord or diameter and marked some points on it. (Saw professionals at NuTek near Baltimore do the same thing, thought it couldn't hurt.

We then tried to do star testing. However, trying to do that outside when uncoated was a nightmare. So I figured it would be asier if I did a quick-and-dirty coating in our Consolidated Electrodynamics vacuum chamber and alumizer, vintage mid-1960s. Literally "quick and dirty" because I didn't even wash it off. The aluminum stuck just fine, but you could see our fingerprints and the Sharpie line through the aluminum. Did some more testing.

Yesterday, we decided to do a real coating. ?So we got out the 'green river' and the paper towels and stood outside in the snow and cold and watched Venus and Mars do their slow evening dance whille the aluminum came off, which it did.

Then we took the mirror into the CCCC kitchen to clean off anything remaining (and warm up) using our regular agents: Alconox powder and powdered USP calcium carbonate (separately) with water and cotton balls.

Guess what?

We could still see, clearly, where I had drawn the line with the permanent marker, despite repeated washings and scrubbings.

We even tried laquer thinner. ?No change. We haven't tried acetone, because we were out, and intend to do so, but at this point I'm not sure it will work either... Methyl Ethyl Ketone? I sure hope it doesn't need polishing again, because figuring a 12.5" mirror is a WHOLE lot of work.

Weird.

Anybody have comments or ideas?
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Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?
guysmathastro.wordpress.com


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