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Re: Excessive Noise
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt¡¯s definitely either the PCM5102 or the PCM1808, or the circuitry around those parts (I¡¯ll bet you have a solder bridge or a bad part)¡ and remember that could be at those parts or at the Teensy processor (or hat)¡ ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of epif18 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 2:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Excessive Noise ? Thanks Bill.? I have done this with the RF board disconnected and the audio hat off and I get the same result. I'll try reinstalling the A/D and DACs but in the mean time, can I buy a set?? Thanks for the advice. Mark |
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Re: RF Board
Yes, thanks for sending...
On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 01:24:05 PM EST, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:
Jack.. .you said you want a new V12 RF board? ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? -- Jack, W8TEE |
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Re: T41 SDT Code Issues
I'll ask him, but I don't think he does. I have an infrared "gun" that I might poke around with. I'm gonna try the freezer thing too. Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 01:43:06 PM EST, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote:
On 2025-02-21 09:47, jjpurdum via groups.io wrote: > I have the C boot drive which is a SSD, but only 500G, my D drive, > which holds everything and is 1 TB and the drive that died, and drive > F which is a 2T hot-swap backup drive. D no longer shows up in Windows > Explore or the Disk Manager. I'm hoping it's a faulty/dirty connector *** Does Al have a infrared camera?? I saw a video where somebody fixed a dead SSD by imaging it - and quickly finding a shorted electrolytic. The shorted electrolytic got hot, and the camera saw it. I've been looking at such things, because I have a nice mini-pc that died.? It's pulling down the power supply and the power supply light is blinking.? I tested the supply on the bench, and it delivers its rated current, no problem. Whatever's loading down that supply is surely heating up. There are approximately a zillion of these things on Amazon.? The main feature I'm looking for is "macro" - the ability to focus on something really close - like a circuit board. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry, KF6VB > which I will check when I tear the system down later today. If that > doesn't work, how long in the fridge? If that fails, I'll go over to > Al's and put it in an old system he has and see if that controller can > find it. If that doesn't work, I've lost a tremendous amount of > non-T41 stuff and I'll start shopping for a large pile of kindling and > a very flammable Viking ship. > > Jack, W8TEE > >? On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 12:18:23 PM EST, jerry-KF6VB > <jerry@...> wrote: > > On 2025-02-21 06:47, jjpurdum via groups.io wrote: > >> Also, I have other distractions now. At some time yesterday my main >> data drive died > > *** That sucks.? Did it die completely, or just lose data?? Sometimes > they > can be read by putting the drive in the fridge. > >? I have a unique system.? I don't keep anything important on my > desktop > PC.? Instead, I have a Linux server running the Samba suite that acts > as > a > windows fileserver.? I actually have three of those servers;? two > active, and > the third being upgraded to a newer Linux.? Also, I do an encrypted > incremental > backup to the cloud once a week.? The server in use backs itself up to > > the second hot server every night. > >? So far, I've been lucky.? Have had some close calls, but never lost > it > all. > My email queue goes back to 1989!? Back then I didn't have real > Internet.? My PC > ran a program called "UUPC" that dialed up another computer and > transferred mail and > netnews via the UUCP protocol.? I had it on a 24 hour timer.? In the > middle of the night, > it would come on for a few hours.? UUPC was in the autoexec.bat. > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry, KF6VB > > -- > Jack, W8TEE > > > Links: > ------ > [1] /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/message/32850 > [2] /mt/111306866/243852 > [3] /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/post > [4] /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/editsub/243852 > [5] > /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/leave/10484476/243852/1943518115/xyzzy -- Jack, W8TEE |
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Re: T41 SDT Code Issues
I will give it a try. At this point, I would put salt on a swallow's tail if I thought that would work. I did back up my personal photos, but not my past tax records. I also had about 8 months work on a "How-To" book and I never back any of it up. Stupid...just plain stupid. I'll let you know if it worked. Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 01:49:37 PM EST, Larry - AC8YE via groups.io <ac8ye@...> wrote:
Jack, Put the failed drive in a zip lock bag, then that in another zip .lock bag.? I usually put the double bagged drive in the freezer for at least 24 hours.? Once you take it out of the freezer, you have about 45 minutes to reconnect the drive and try to recover your data.? This has worked for me over the past 35 years. Larry - AC8YE
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On Friday, February 21st, 2025 at 12:47 PM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:
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Re: T41 SDT Code Issues
Jack, Put the failed drive in a zip lock bag, then that in another zip .lock bag.? I usually put the double bagged drive in the freezer for at least 24 hours.? Once you take it out of the freezer, you have about 45 minutes to reconnect the drive and try to recover your data.? This has worked for me over the past 35 years. Larry - AC8YE
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On Friday, February 21st, 2025 at 12:47 PM, jjpurdum via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:
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RF Board
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJack.. .you said you want a new V12 RF board? ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? |
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Re: Excessive Noise
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMark¡ I¡¯m fully restocked with T41 boards¡ latest revisions too.? I have at least 100 of each board gearing up for Hamvention. ? Unplug the RF board so its just the MAIN board and see if it still happens (maybe you already did this experiment).? If it¡¯s still there, it has to be either the A/D, the D/A or the Audio hat.? They are the only things on the main board that are associated with the I2C Clock. ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of epif18 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Excessive Noise ? Hey yall' I've tried everything I can think of.? The pulsating noise corresponds to the sclk signal (pin 13 led which also pulsates) which seems to be modulated by the spectrum update rate that is then getting onto the power lines.? It's on the 12v,? 3.3v and 5v lines. Pulsating level and rate varies by band, particularly 20M. This pulsating happens with a full up system and with only MAIN and the display running (happens without the display hooked up too). I've rebuilt the power supplies on main, encased the display in copper, wrapped the rebuilt display cable in copper and grounded one end, retouched most of the solder joints, all to no avail.? I've changed the teensy and looked at the whole card under the microscope and nothing!? I'm using a metal case, single point ground, nothing is grounded to the case.? Using 50.2. So I need a MAIN circuit card.? Are card sets still available?? Does anyone have a V12 set they want to sell or an extra MAIN they want to get rid of?? Everything else works great, BPF, LPF, RF including the attenuators (which surprised me!). Thanks Mark KU3O |
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Re: RF Board update.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWith the addition of the following: ?
? That¡¯s it.?? You don¡¯t NEED to do any of this, but you can do it¡ to get better performance from your existing T41.? That includes better RX S/N and better TX audio bandwidth and spectrum and calibration.? We are splitting hairs a bit here though.? IF you have a perfectly good working RF board that you are happy with¡ then just leave it. ? I think the jury is still out on if it makes sense to use 0 Ohm jumpers for ?C32, C36, C42 and C51 too¡? We should have this resolved shortly. ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Greg, KM5GT via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 11:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] RF Board update. ? In terms of reworking an existing board it looks like I need to: 1. Remove U19, U20, U22 and U23 along with associated capacitors (capacitor removal looks optional as they are no longer connected).? Install JP18 and JP 19.?? 2. Add a 0.1uF capacitor at the junction of L7 and Y1 VDD.?? ? Does this look correct? ? ------------------------ |
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Re: T41 SDT Code Issues
I have the C boot drive which is a SSD, but only 500G, my D drive, which holds everything and is 1 TB and the drive that died, and drive F which is a 2T hot-swap backup drive. D no longer shows up in Windows Explore or the Disk Manager. I'm hoping it's a faulty/dirty connector which I will check when I tear the system down later today. If that doesn't work, how long in the fridge? If that fails, I'll go over to Al's and put it in an old system he has and see if that controller can find it. If that doesn't work, I've lost a tremendous amount of non-T41 stuff and I'll start shopping for a large pile of kindling and a very flammable Viking ship. Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 12:18:23 PM EST, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote:
On 2025-02-21 06:47, jjpurdum via groups.io wrote: > Also, I have other distractions now. At some time yesterday my main > data drive died *** That sucks.? Did it die completely, or just lose data?? Sometimes they can be read by putting the drive in the fridge. ? I have a unique system.? I don't keep anything important on my desktop PC.? Instead, I have a Linux server running the Samba suite that acts as a windows fileserver.? I actually have three of those servers;? two active, and the third being upgraded to a newer Linux.? Also, I do an encrypted incremental backup to the cloud once a week.? The server in use backs itself up to the second hot server every night. ? So far, I've been lucky.? Have had some close calls, but never lost it all. My email queue goes back to 1989!? Back then I didn't have real Internet.? My PC ran a program called "UUPC" that dialed up another computer and transferred mail and netnews via the UUCP protocol.? I had it on a 24 hour timer.? In the middle of the night, it would come on for a few hours.? UUPC was in the autoexec.bat. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry, KF6VB -- Jack, W8TEE |
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Re: T41 SDT Code Issues
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt seems to be a combination of things (not just one)¡ weak SPI line drivers on the Teensy T4.1 and cross-talk (capacitive coupling) between the data lines that gets worse as the cables get longer.? That¡¯s why shorter cables or cables with some form of ferrite can make the display work.? ? There are a few ways to fix this: ?
? There may be more but that¡¯s what we know about for sure¡ ? ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of jjpurdum via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 11:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 SDT Code Issues ? What would be the cause of the display issues when some of us have ribbon connectors to the display that are 4-5" long? ? Jack, W8TEE ? On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 11:57:46 AM EST, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote: ? ? On 2025-02-21 07:58, K9HZ wrote:
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Re: T41 SDT Code Issues
What would be the cause of the display issues when some of us have ribbon connectors to the display that are 4-5" long? Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 11:57:46 AM EST, jerry-KF6VB <jerry@...> wrote:
On 2025-02-21 07:58, K9HZ wrote: > If a new main board was designed... I think I would do what John did... > sort > of... I would put the main board right on the back of the display.? > That way > there is no display cable. *** Like the Ubitx.? Good idea. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jerry, KF6VB -- Jack, W8TEE |
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