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Re: slow starting on T41 kit
Great, very good news as I ordered it this morning.
Question regarding my kit I'd left boxed up since Dec 2023. My boards have a 2023 date on them, they also have ver 009b. Looking at the images of the boards at I'm not finding ver 009b info. ver 010 or 011 images of boards have dates from 2022 or thereabouts, a year before my boards. Hopefully my Teensy 4.1 and audio board will work with my boards. Also the filter boards has the legacy five bands, I would like to operate on 60M. Will it work on 60M as is or should I look at upgrading some boards? This is the best time for me to make any changes. Thanks! Ron VE8RT On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 10:10:19 -0600 "K9HZ" <bill@...> wrote: Still an option¡ -- Ron VE8RT <ve8rt@...> |
Re: Mile Stone
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGood work Tim!Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com email:??bill@... ? On Feb 25, 2025, at 8:06?PM, Tim via groups.io <w4yn@...> wrote:
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Re: FrankenT41 on the air
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNot readt to sell yet. ?I keep thinking up stuff to put on it for new purposes?Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com email:??bill@... ? On Feb 25, 2025, at 8:55?PM, rebruhnke via groups.io <rebruhnke@...> wrote:
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Re: FrankenT41 on the air
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOk great. ?A block diagram would be good to start. ?Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com email:??bill@... ? On Feb 25, 2025, at 8:55?PM, rebruhnke via groups.io <rebruhnke@...> wrote:
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Re: FrankenT41 on the air
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe only skill im missing is programming the FPGA¡ the rest of the hardware is easy. ?Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com email:??bill@... ? On Feb 25, 2025, at 9:03?PM, rebruhnke via groups.io <rebruhnke@...> wrote:
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Re: FrankenT41 on the air
As promised here are a few pics of the inside....
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Many boards are mounted horizontally, on aluminum and 3D printed standoffs. The PA and driver and UI systems are all vertically mounted.
The LPF-BPF boards are mounted on a piece of tinned PCB material and the whole thing is mounted above the RF board.
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Hope the pics help a little
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Russ |
Re: FrankenT41 on the air
I do plan on sharing, William, but any sharing will not be anywhere near how nice Al and Jack have described their system. I have stood on the shoulders of much better people than I to get this accomplished, so I will want to contribute back to the community. It isn't ready for viewing, yet. Some more tweaks needed.
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Re: FrankenT41 on the air
Nice!? I used one of the other SMA connectors for my Beverage so I could make sure it gets disconnected during transmit.? The PIN Diode changeover would be nice. I made one once, many moons ago, but it had too much loss in the RX path and I discarded it. Relays have been ok, but I'd like to get rid of it in the transmitter.?
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Are you ready to sell those boards?
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Russ |
Mile Stone
All boards complete (Except PA) and building ked out
Biggest headache was caused by using Chinese Long pin header in Teensy.
All kinds of issues croped up. Changed to Long Pin headers made correctly with almost square pins not pins stamped from thin brass sheet.
ProtoSupplies.com has correct headers and lots of other quality STUFF.?
I can now install audio hat without issue.
Installing ferrite sleeves on Display and Front panel ribbon cleared hang ups.
Still have some FW issues, 66 looses audio and or decode after rx calibration. Also lots of wide band noise on sections of 20m (maybe others) parts of band work ok.
The experimental Hex file that I believe Jack sent me seems to be the most stable.
I did mess up a few of the BPF's that was my issue and I know what to did wrong.
Happy for now, I needed to get to a feel good spot before starting big project for scout camp that got ravaged from Helene.?
Thanks all who contributed looking forward to finishing in near future.
Tim
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Re: FrankenT41 on the air
On 2025-02-25 10:30, rebruhnke via groups.io wrote:
Last evening, I finally got my version of the T41 on the air for an*** Very cool, Russ. What sort of homebrew amp are you using? I use my T41 with an amp with an MRF1K50 - RF card & LPF kits from W6PQL, a Chinese cell-phone-surplus rack mount power supply, a 4-inch touch screen driven by a Teensy 4.1 with software I wrote. We do 800-1100W, and reports have been universally good. I didn't use the amp with my V11 system; I didn't think it was clean enough. But with Bill's BPF, the V12 is good to go. - Jerry, KF6VB I call it the "Franken" T41 because the RF portion is not a T41. This |
Re: FrankenT41 on the air
I have 65Mhz ad/da and intend something similar care to share your work? On Tue, Feb 25, 2025, 11:30 AM rebruhnke via <rebruhnke=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: FrankenT41 on the air
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOh yeah, BTW the PIN diode version of that TR board has additional inputs for RX antennas (up to 4) and the connections for the Auto Tuner.? That will really change things for use in in the field. ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rebruhnke via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] FrankenT41 on the air ? Last evening, I finally got my version of the T41 on the air for an extended period of time on 75M. Talked all over the US and even down to British Honduras with my home brew amp running about 800W.? ? I call it the "Franken" T41 because the RF portion is not a T41. This is my FPGA implementation with a DSPic CK doing the actual demodulation/modulation.? Sensitivity is such that I can hear a -127dB signal; low, but it is there. On all bands the antennas generate way more noise than the rig. The FPGA splits the RF signal two ways: One set to a DAC for the panadapter and one set to the DSPic via I2S. Other than the panadapter signals, all analog "audio" is at high-level. No calibration is needed; the beauty of getting to digital as soon as possible. ? The UI is run by the Teensy using much of Al and Jack's code for noise reduction and equalization displaying on a 7" capacitance touch screen using an 8bit bus. The panadapter only displays +/- 48K as I like that display format the best. The display is not the ones used in the T41 as the capacitance touch "areas" of those displays are much larger than the one I am using and I need that resolution. No buttons on the front panel. Touch panel handles all "buttons" including band and mode changes. ? CW keying is crisp and the rise/fall times are handled totally via software in the DSPic. Built-in Iambic keyer. I'll get some internal pics up later today. ? I should receive a PCB today that has the Teensy in place of the DSPic...? Next project and we'll see how that goes. ? I am using Bill's BPF, LPF and control board. The control board is modified slightly to provide for a receive antenna so I can attach my Beverage. The BPF is only on the RX path as my transmitter is squeaky clean before the 100W PA. The PA board is one I got from Glenn, VK2PE many moons ago for another project. ? I want to thank Al and Jack for putting this out in the public domain and for Bill and Oliver doing the boards.? I get great compliments on the audio and the cleanliness of my signal. ? Russ NQ0U |
Re: FrankenT41 on the air
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYeah we need to talk.? You have more skill that I do in the FPGA department¡ where I want to go next. ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rebruhnke via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] FrankenT41 on the air ? Last evening, I finally got my version of the T41 on the air for an extended period of time on 75M. Talked all over the US and even down to British Honduras with my home brew amp running about 800W.? ? I call it the "Franken" T41 because the RF portion is not a T41. This is my FPGA implementation with a DSPic CK doing the actual demodulation/modulation.? Sensitivity is such that I can hear a -127dB signal; low, but it is there. On all bands the antennas generate way more noise than the rig. The FPGA splits the RF signal two ways: One set to a DAC for the panadapter and one set to the DSPic via I2S. Other than the panadapter signals, all analog "audio" is at high-level. No calibration is needed; the beauty of getting to digital as soon as possible. ? The UI is run by the Teensy using much of Al and Jack's code for noise reduction and equalization displaying on a 7" capacitance touch screen using an 8bit bus. The panadapter only displays +/- 48K as I like that display format the best. The display is not the ones used in the T41 as the capacitance touch "areas" of those displays are much larger than the one I am using and I need that resolution. No buttons on the front panel. Touch panel handles all "buttons" including band and mode changes. ? CW keying is crisp and the rise/fall times are handled totally via software in the DSPic. Built-in Iambic keyer. I'll get some internal pics up later today. ? I should receive a PCB today that has the Teensy in place of the DSPic...? Next project and we'll see how that goes. ? I am using Bill's BPF, LPF and control board. The control board is modified slightly to provide for a receive antenna so I can attach my Beverage. The BPF is only on the RX path as my transmitter is squeaky clean before the 100W PA. The PA board is one I got from Glenn, VK2PE many moons ago for another project. ? I want to thank Al and Jack for putting this out in the public domain and for Bill and Oliver doing the boards.? I get great compliments on the audio and the cleanliness of my signal. ? Russ NQ0U |
FrankenT41 on the air
Last evening, I finally got my version of the T41 on the air for an extended period of time on 75M. Talked all over the US and even down to British Honduras with my home brew amp running about 800W.?
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I call it the "Franken" T41 because the RF portion is not a T41. This is my FPGA implementation with a DSPic CK doing the actual demodulation/modulation.? Sensitivity is such that I can hear a -127dB signal; low, but it is there. On all bands the antennas generate way more noise than the rig. The FPGA splits the RF signal two ways: One set to a DAC for the panadapter and one set to the DSPic via I2S. Other than the panadapter signals, all analog "audio" is at high-level. No calibration is needed; the beauty of getting to digital as soon as possible.
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The UI is run by the Teensy using much of Al and Jack's code for noise reduction and equalization displaying on a 7" capacitance touch screen using an 8bit bus. The panadapter only displays +/- 48K as I like that display format the best. The display is not the ones used in the T41 as the capacitance touch "areas" of those displays are much larger than the one I am using and I need that resolution. No buttons on the front panel. Touch panel handles all "buttons" including band and mode changes.
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CW keying is crisp and the rise/fall times are handled totally via software in the DSPic. Built-in Iambic keyer.
I'll get some internal pics up later today.
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I should receive a PCB today that has the Teensy in place of the DSPic...? Next project and we'll see how that goes.
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I am using Bill's BPF, LPF and control board. The control board is modified slightly to provide for a receive antenna so I can attach my Beverage. The BPF is only on the RX path as my transmitter is squeaky clean before the 100W PA. The PA board is one I got from Glenn, VK2PE many moons ago for another project.
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I want to thank Al and Jack for putting this out in the public domain and for Bill and Oliver doing the boards.? I get great compliments on the audio and the cleanliness of my signal.
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Russ NQ0U |
Re: slow starting on T41 kit
If you order the 5V one, it's always an option to go with 3.3V. If you
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order the 3.3V option, it may or may not be possible to use 5V. Because for the 3v3 one, they may or may not stuff the 3-terminal regulator. - Jerry, KF6VB On 2025-02-25 08:10, K9HZ wrote:
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Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
I did not have any trouble uploading al looked good at first.
There sections of 20M that had wide sections of high noise, sometimes triggered with tuning with main encoder.
After doing a rx calibration I lost all audio or decoding nothing out on audio channel.
That is as far as I got.
Tim?
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Re: V010 Boards
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe V10 radio still works¡ ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Greg KF5N via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 10:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] V010 Boards ? Hi John- This is essential for a clean transmitter. You will need a 2nd LPF board and a set of filters from QRP labs. ? -- 73 Greg KF5N |
Re: T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýV12.6 = V12.06 ¡ I think an extra zero crept into the mask¡ ? ? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ ? Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC Staunton, Illinois ? Owner ¨C Operator Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: ? Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. ? email:? bill@... ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of jjpurdum via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 8:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 SDT Version 66 with Calibration ? Maybe Bill can confirm this, but I think you're fine. ? Jack, W8TEE ? On Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 09:08:18 AM EST, Steve Umans via groups.io <umans@...> wrote: ? ? On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 05:39 PM, Albert Peter wrote:
I received the V12 boards I am using back in June.? My Main board is labeled V12.6 while my RF board is labeled V12.06. I haven't seen any indication that there has been a new version of the RF board since then but I am checking just in case I need to order and re-populate an upgraded RF board. ? Tnx, Steve K8ZBE
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