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Re: No SSB output

 

Hi Jack, I'm looking at the V12 schematic, and the external audio amp is driven by the PCM5102 DAC IC.? It looks like the same audio path as V10/V11.
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73 Greg KF5N


Re: No SSB output

 
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There has to be a 3 wire cable from the Audio Adapter LGR going down to the Main board.
Looks like the matching connector on the V12 Main board is J22.
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73 Greg KF5N


Re: No SSB output

 

V12 still relies on an external audio amp.

Jack, W8TEE

On Thursday, April 17, 2025 at 01:24:10 PM EDT, Greg KF5N via groups.io <greg.electricity@...> wrote:


It's not real clear where to connect the I and Q outputs (line out left and right) on the Audio Adapter.? Referring to the back side of the Audio adapter:
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Where it says
LINE
OUT

To the right this are three vias, with L G R underneath them.
That is left channel, ground, and right channel line out.? "Line out" is an audio term, but we are calling it I and Q channels.
It is good that the ground is in the middle, because you can easily flip the connector if you end up with I and Q channels reversed.

Another thing about the audio adapter is that it was not involved with the receiver in the original T41.? I'm not sure about V12.
T41EEE.9 uses the Audio Adapter's headphone output for receiver audio, but that is its only involvement in the receiver.
Also interesting is that there is a 2nd audio adapter device instantiated in the code and it has associated commands.? These commands do nothing.
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73 Greg KF5N

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Jack, W8TEE


Re: New book

 

Thanks for the purchase...You did get the right version, though? I resubmitted the entire book yesterday (after spending 2.5 hours talking with Amazon/Kindle), which is not good because we lose the favorable reviews. They still don't know what went wrong. They say the new ad copy should appear in a week to 10 days.

Jack, W8TEE

On Thursday, April 17, 2025 at 01:38:48 PM EDT, Clarence Peckham via groups.io <cpeckham@...> wrote:


Ordered the new book on Monday this week and received it yesterday.? Amazon does still sohow the previous version for sale as well. On first review the new updates are helpful.
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Clarence, NT7V

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Jack, W8TEE


Re: No SSB output

 

I have been hooking up to the pins Iq out on main board, the ones we installed with rt angle pins.
I will also try this connector.
Tim
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Re: New book

 

Ordered the new book on Monday this week and received it yesterday.? Amazon does still sohow the previous version for sale as well. On first review the new updates are helpful.
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Clarence, NT7V


Re: No SSB output

 

It's not real clear where to connect the I and Q outputs (line out left and right) on the Audio Adapter.? Referring to the back side of the Audio adapter:
?
Where it says
LINE
OUT

To the right this are three vias, with L G R underneath them.
That is left channel, ground, and right channel line out.? "Line out" is an audio term, but we are calling it I and Q channels.
It is good that the ground is in the middle, because you can easily flip the connector if you end up with I and Q channels reversed.

Another thing about the audio adapter is that it was not involved with the receiver in the original T41.? I'm not sure about V12.
T41EEE.9 uses the Audio Adapter's headphone output for receiver audio, but that is its only involvement in the receiver.
Also interesting is that there is a 2nd audio adapter device instantiated in the code and it has associated commands.? These commands do nothing.
?
--
73 Greg KF5N


Re: No SSB output

 

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 6:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] No SSB output

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PTT working, it goes into TX and amps increase, relays click.

I2C checked out on all but BPF which I am using 3rd party BCD to control.

Audio hat works fine for RX.

Tim?

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Re: No SSB output

 

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Tim,

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Oliver is correct¡­ if the audio hat + software is working¡­ you should see a audio-like waveform on J17¡­ which is the generated I/Q output to the RF board.? You can trace that back to PINS 1 and 2 (I and Q) on the hat.? If you don¡¯t see anything there to ground (and its about 0-200 mv), no sense going down stream to the RF, BPF, LPF etc. until that works.

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

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Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 6:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] No SSB output

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PTT working, it goes into TX and amps increase, relays click.

I2C checked out on all but BPF which I am using 3rd party BCD to control.

Audio hat works fine for RX.

Tim?

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Power Amp Efficiency

 

I have 3 ways of measuring power; Direct LPF output on Tek Scope, RMS voltage out of Pearson current monitor, an HP363 Taidacent power meter.? I get 9.7 +/-0.9 watts out at 7.2MHz.? My DC power in to the amp is 20.0 wt for an efficiency of 47%.? Is that what others are seeing?
dave, n3ds


Re: New book

 

Thanks, John!

Jack, W8TEE

On Thursday, April 17, 2025 at 06:17:45 AM EDT, John Owens K1JO via groups.io <johnowenschina@...> wrote:


Thanks Jack. The automated message from Amazon told me to keep the old book and they would send a new one :)...I wonder if they will send a new Old one.
When the New new one arrives, I will write a nice review. Thanks for the great work!
John K1JO

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Jack, W8TEE


Re: No SSB output

 

PTT working, it goes into TX and amps increase, relays click.
I2C checked out on all but BPF which I am using 3rd party BCD to control.
Audio hat works fine for RX.
Tim?
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Re: No SSB output

 

Are you certain that your PTT button is working? You should hear relays click when you press it. If the PTT button is working, then a lack of signals out of the audio hat implies that the hat is not working for some reason. I'm assuming that the I2C connection to the audio hat did not have a fault on the BIT screen at boot?

On Wednesday, April 16th, 2025 at 9:15 PM, Tim via groups.io <w4yn@...> wrote:

Put scope on the IQ out pins and I don't detect and signals when in TX IQ calibrate
Tim


Re: New book

 

Thanks Jack. The automated message from Amazon told me to keep the old book and they would send a new one :)...I wonder if they will send a new Old one.
When the New new one arrives, I will write a nice review. Thanks for the great work!
John K1JO


Re: Just curious. . .

 

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You gain some slow memory to store stuff in¡­

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

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Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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email:? bill@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Duane B via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 10:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SoftwareControlledHamRadio] Just curious. . .

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But do you gain anything by populating 1 or 2 of the 8Mb SPI memory chips on the Teensy?? Or do you loose? some functionality by doing that?

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Just curious.

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Thanks,

Duane - K5CA


Just curious. . .

 

But do you gain anything by populating 1 or 2 of the 8Mb SPI memory chips on the Teensy?? Or do you loose? some functionality by doing that?
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Just curious.
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Thanks,
Duane - K5CA


Re: New book

 

Yeah, I did too, but twice received the wrong book. I have redone the submission from scratch and I should be hearing within 72 hours. It will have a new ISBN number, which means we lose all of the nice reviews we had up until now. To all those who took the time to say nice things about the book, a huge Thank You from Al and I.

I will post when the new book is ready to ship.

Meanwhile, they have been good about taking books back.

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, April 16, 2025 at 09:14:16 PM EDT, John Owens K1JO via groups.io <johnowenschina@...> wrote:


I just received the wrong one, the old one that I already have :(
Strange, as I waited until the purchase page had the new cover with the black T-41.
John K1JO

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Jack, W8TEE


Re: No SSB output

 

Put scope on the IQ out pins and I don't detect and signals when in TX IQ calibrate
Tim


Re: New book

 

I just received the wrong one, the old one that I already have :(
Strange, as I waited until the purchase page had the new cover with the black T-41.
John K1JO


Re: No SSB output

 

Yes they are. Step through the circuit starting at the audio hat. Do you see the 750 Hz audio tone on the I and Q outputs of the audio hat? Then, walk through the transmit chain on the RF board and find where the signal disappears.

On Wednesday, April 16th, 2025 at 7:45 PM, Tim via groups.io <w4yn@...> wrote:

Is the 750hz and 2 tone frequencies generated in Audio Hat?
Still mucking around trying figure out why no carrier in SSB mode.
Tim?
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