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Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage
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I have already winterized the boat but thought that I might ask if I have missed anything.
I took the raw water inlet hose off the sea cock and ran almost two gallons of 100 below thru the engine until I saw the color in the exhaust water comming out the stern. I have not drained the muffler. I drained the fresh water from the sink in the head and ran 50 below till I saw the color in the tap. There is about 1 1/2 gallons of anti-freeze in the fresh water system. The foot pump in the gally sink is now broken but I can see some antifreeze in the inlet hose. The waste water tank was pumped dry and about a gallon of 50 below was put in the toilet and pumped thru. I could not get the last screw out of the water impeller so I left it for the spring. Loosened the fan belt. Batteries are in the basement on blocks. Still looking for a really good storage charger. Filled the fuel tank with treated fuel. Pumped out the bilge and some water in the engine area. Made ribs out of electrical pipe and covered the boat with three tarps. Took out the interior and everything else that I could to store inside. Has anyone replaced the galley foot pump? How do you get to it? Seriously, I looked and it appears to be under a wood shelf that may have been installed and then the galley section set into place. Has anyone found a good replacement for the two color bow light? Brand and source? Same for the foot pump? I closing, I must say that this has been a great boat with a great engine. I have really enjoyed it this summer, I just wish for some better weather. October made the season for me as I got out five times in ten days! Have a good winter and an even better sailing summer. Allen Hinkelman. |
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Hello Allen, Your winterizing goes a step or two beyond my own. I haven't made tubular frames for the tarps. I tie a small one over the forward hatch & portlights, and a medium one from the dorade vents to just past the cockpit winches. This leaves my solar vents on duty. Everything else you've done sounds right to me. I hope you used a non toxic antifreeze in the fresh water system! I use RV grade stuff in the engine, water & waste systems. I didn't replace, but I rebuilt the foot pump in the head sink. My galley pump looks like it's been done already. I ordered rebuild kits that fit right in. Mine are Whale brand. Can't remember where I got them at the moment, but it was probably Defender or Hamilton. There were a few screws around the edge of the plywood floor inside the cabinet. When I removed them I was able to lift the plywood out and access the pumps. I love the boat too, but my engine has been challenging lately. Got my oil leaks taken care of but a fuel issue cramped the last month of the season. I'll be doing my winterization tomorrow. Bob |
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allen, thanks for the note. i think i posted my winteriztion spreadsheet in the files area. ..
it is good that you ran antifreeze, but do you know if the engine wasnhotnenou so the thermostt opened up? if not the antifreeze will by pass flowing thru the cylinder jacket, but still flow thru the exhaust. you can tell bydraining the engine block via the drain screw which is on starboard side of engine near the fuel pump. if it is draining nantifreeze, then your are good to go. if not, drain the block ir run the motor ntil it gets hot enough. did you change the oil? very important for a diesel as the oil can form sulfuric acid and cause some longer term issues. did you add biocide and fuel supplement to thetank? did you top off the tank? i usually grease the impeller..sounds though that you have problems withe the screw. squirt oil in the air intake manifold (remove air filter first) top off fuel tank clean ur raw water strainer plug exhaust plug all head and fuel tank vents with tape shut fuel valve on top of tnk. tape air intake shut with duct tape lubricate all inkages ...on my list but dont always do... spray engine with fogging fluid or Boeshield lubricate seacocks lubricate any blocks put in some dehumidifier bucket,. i use ..... 2 in cabin, one in engine/fuel tank area. spray electrical terminals with a terminal cleaner re a battery charger i use the Guest Pal trickle charger...trickle charge first battery for 24 days, do the other for 24 days, then alternate every 2 weeks until start of season. i use a simple paper chart to track dates. i believe trickle chraging is better due to reduced chance of gassing. I have already winterized the boat but thought that I might ask if I have missed anything. I took the raw water inlet hose off the sea cock and ran almost two gallons of 100 below thru the engine until I saw the color in the exhaust water comming out the stern. I have not drained the muffler. I drained the fresh water from the sink in the head and ran 50 below till I saw the color in the tap. There is about 1 1/2 gallons of anti-freeze in the fresh water system. The foot pump in the gally sink is now broken but I can see some antifreeze in the inlet hose. The waste water tank was pumped dry and about a gallon of 50 below was put in the toilet and pumped thru. I could not get the last screw out of the water impeller so I left it for the spring. Loosened the fan belt. Batteries are in the basement on blocks. Still looking for a really good storage charger. Filled the fuel tank with treated fuel. Pumped out the bilge and some water in the engine area. Made ribs out of electrical pipe and covered the boat with three tarps. Took out the interior and everything else that I could to store inside. Has anyone replaced the galley foot pump? How do you get to it? Seriously, I looked and it appears to be under a wood shelf that may have been installed and then the galley section set into place. Has anyone found a good replacement for the two color bow light? Brand and source? Same for the foot pump? |
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i just replaced my ow light. purchased at Defender...forgot the brand but it was a direct replacement. i had to rewire thru the bow pulpit. somewhat frustrating task but managed to do it but be careful! i'll dig up the modle and post it later. --- In s227classassociation@..., "allenhinkelman@..." <allenhinkelman@...> wrote:
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AllenJ. Hinkelman
I took out the screws but the wood shelf is blocked by the interior of the sink stand. The stand appears to taper as you go up and the fibreglass around the dooor seems to bulge out and block the wood shelf when you try to lift it up and out. I will look at it again. The anti-freeze was non-toxic West Marine type.
I do not know the nature of your fuel problem but the prior owner alway used a premium fuel with a bio guard and it seemed to work. My harbor uses fuel with valvetec in it. I also have a Raycof pre filter which?I have not changed.
From: "woodwork@..." To: s227classassociation@... Sent: Sat, November 19, 2011 6:09:13 PM Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage ?
Hello Allen,
Your winterizing goes a step or two beyond my own. I haven't made tubular frames for the tarps. I tie a small one over the forward hatch & portlights, and a medium one from the dorade vents to just past the cockpit winches. This leaves my solar vents on duty. Everything else you've done sounds right to me. I hope you used a non toxic antifreeze in the fresh water system! I use RV grade stuff in the engine, water & waste systems.
I didn't replace, but I rebuilt the foot pump in the head sink. My galley pump looks like it's been done already. I ordered rebuild kits that fit right in. Mine are Whale brand. Can't remember where I got them at the moment, but it was probably Defender or Hamilton. There were a few screws around the edge of the plywood floor inside the cabinet. When I removed them I was able to lift the plywood out and access the pumps.
I love the boat too, but my engine has been challenging lately. Got my oil leaks taken care of but a fuel issue cramped the last month of the season.
I'll be doing my winterization tomorrow.
Bob |
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i just replaced my bow light. purchased at Defender...forgot the brand but it was a direct replacement. i had to rewire thru the bow pulpit. somewhat frustrating task but managed to do it but be careful! i'll dig up the modle and post it later.Hey Rick, I need to replace the plastic part of my bow running light assembly, which hangs from and is welded to the pulpit. Do you know which model you purchased from Defender? The stainless steel back plate is still intact, as is the wiring and the bayonet fitting for the lamp (pictures in the Photo section). Thanks! --Dave |
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I think it may have been a Perko. OEM was Lucas LM 120B. I still have the plastic housing. private message me if you have trouble finding part. Rick --- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" <uswa174@...> wrote:
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Dave, I could not find the nav light listed in Defender catalog....come to think of it...i believe it was in their Clearance room...i usually rummage that area for deals ever Spring...i think zperko acquired asset of Lucas and used 120 BB as rhe part number.
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Hi, ? I have hull number 50 and would be interested in the bow light if you can figure out where to get a model that fit in place of the old one. It does seem top be a Lucas fitting. Actually the lens on mine is cracked, to outer lens, the inner red and green are fine. ? ? Thanks ? john? From: s227classassociation
To: s227classassociation@... Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage
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Dave, I could not find the nav light listed in Defender catalog....come to think of it...i believe it was in their Clearance room...i usually rummage that area for deals ever Spring...i think zperko acquired asset of Lucas and used 120 BB as rhe part number.
--- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "uswa174" wrote: > > > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "s227classassociation" wrote: > > > i just replaced my bow light. purchased at Defender...forgot the brand but it was a direct replacement. i had to rewire thru the bow pulpit. somewhat frustrating task but managed to do it but be careful! i'll dig up the modle and post it later. > > Hey Rick, > > I need to replace the plastic part of my bow running light assembly, which hangs from and is welded to the pulpit. Do you know which model you purchased from Defender? The stainless steel back plate is still intact, as is the wiring and the bayonet fitting for the lamp (pictures in the Photo section). > > Thanks! > > --Dave > |
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I checked the Defender Catalog again, and could not find it. I recall that Perko had a part that was the old Lucas part. Rick --- In s227classassociation@..., john guido <tw33432@...> wrote:
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Rick, ? I need to go down to the boat & measure but this looks like the light ? ? john From: "s227classassociation-owner@..." To: s227classassociation@... Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:37 PM Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage
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Hi John
I checked the Defender Catalog again, and could not find it. I recall that Perko had a part that was the old Lucas part. Rick --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, john guido wrote: > > Hi, > ?? > I have hull number 50 and would be interested in the bow light if you can figure out where to get a model that fit in place of the old one. It does seem top be a Lucas fitting. Actually the lens on mine is cracked, to outer lens, the inner red and green are fine. > ?? > ?? > Thanks > ?? > john?? > > > ________________________________ > From: s227classassociation > To: mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:55 PM > Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage > > ?? > > Dave, I could not find the nav light listed in Defender catalog....come to think of it...i believe it was in their Clearance room...i usually rummage that area for deals ever Spring...i think zperko acquired asset of Lucas and used 120 BB as rhe part number. > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "uswa174" > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "s227classassociation" wrote: > > > > > i just replaced my bow light. purchased at Defender...forgot the brand but it was a direct replacement. i had to rewire thru the bow pulpit. somewhat frustrating task but managed to do it but be careful! i'll dig up the modle and post it later. > > > > Hey Rick, > > > > I need to replace the plastic part of my bow running light assembly, which hangs from and is welded to the pulpit. Do you know which model you purchased from Defender? The stainless steel back plate is still intact, as is the wiring and the bayonet fitting for the lamp (pictures in the Photo section). > > > > Thanks! > > > > --Dave > > > |
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John - that's the one - they should have one in black too.
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Thanks for finding for the group. Rick --- In s227classassociation@..., john guido <tw33432@...> wrote:
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Rick, ? I called Perko, the rep said that the lens they sell is one piece. My light has two lens (red & green) that fit behind a clear (in my case formerly clear) outer piece. Is yours one piece or three? john From: s227classassociation
To: s227classassociation@... Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage
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John - that's the one - they should have one in black too.
Thanks for finding for the group. Rick --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, john guido <tw33432@...> wrote: > > Rick, > ?? > I need to go down to the boat & measure but this looks like the light > ?? > > ?? > john > > > ________________________________ > From: "mailto:s227classassociation-owner%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:s227classassociation-owner%40yahoogroups.com> > To: mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:37 PM > Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage > > ?? > > Hi John > > I checked the Defender Catalog again, and could not find it. I recall that Perko had a part that was the old Lucas part. > > Rick > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, john guido wrote: > > > > Hi, > > ???? > > I have hull number 50 and would be interested in the bow light if you can figure out where to get a model that fit in place of the old one. It does seem top be a Lucas fitting. Actually the lens on mine is cracked, to outer lens, the inner red and green are fine. > > ???? > > ???? > > Thanks > > ???? > > john???? > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: s227classassociation > > To: mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:55 PM > > Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage > > > > ???? > > > > Dave, I could not find the nav light listed in Defender catalog....come to think of it...i believe it was in their Clearance room...i usually rummage that area for deals ever Spring...i think zperko acquired asset of Lucas and used 120 BB as rhe part number. > > > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "uswa174" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "s227classassociation" wrote: > > > > > > > i just replaced my bow light. purchased at Defender...forgot the brand but it was a direct replacement. i had to rewire thru the bow pulpit. somewhat frustrating task but managed to do it but be careful! i'll dig up the modle and post it later. > > > > > > Hey Rick, > > > > > > I need to replace the plastic part of my bow running light assembly, which hangs from and is welded to the pulpit. Do you know which model you purchased from Defender? The stainless steel back plate is still intact, as is the wiring and the bayonet fitting for the lamp (pictures in the Photo section). > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > --Dave > > > > > > |
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Hi, ? Just to let everyone know the bow light I have on my 1986 27 seems to be a Lucas fitting and I thought the ones in the Perko catalog looked like they would match. Turns out they don't they are listed as being 4 1/8" long and 3 5/8" tall, the Lucas light is 3 5/8" long and 2 " tall. Anyone know where I can get a replacement lens for the Lucas. ? Thanks ? john ? S2 27 hull # 50? Tanha From: s227classassociation
To: s227classassociation@... Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage
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John - that's the one - they should have one in black too.
Thanks for finding for the group. Rick --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, john guido wrote: > > Rick, > ?? > I need to go down to the boat & measure but this looks like the light > ?? > > ?? > john > > > ________________________________ > From: "mailto:s227classassociation-owner%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:s227classassociation-owner%40yahoogroups.com> > To: mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:37 PM > Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage > > ?? > > Hi John > > I checked the Defender Catalog again, and could not find it. I recall that Perko had a part that was the old Lucas part. > > Rick > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, john guido wrote: > > > > Hi, > > ???? > > I have hull number 50 and would be interested in the bow light if you can figure out where to get a model that fit in place of the old one. It does seem top be a Lucas fitting. Actually the lens on mine is cracked, to outer lens, the inner red and green are fine. > > ???? > > ???? > > Thanks > > ???? > > john???? > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: s227classassociation > > To: mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:55 PM > > Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Winterizing, replacing the gally foot pump, bow running light, battery storage > > > > ???? > > > > Dave, I could not find the nav light listed in Defender catalog....come to think of it...i believe it was in their Clearance room...i usually rummage that area for deals ever Spring...i think zperko acquired asset of Lucas and used 120 BB as rhe part number. > > > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "uswa174" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:s227classassociation%40yahoogroups.com, "s227classassociation" <rperret@> wrote: > > > > > > > i just replaced my bow light. purchased at Defender...forgot the brand but it was a direct replacement. i had to rewire thru the bow pulpit. somewhat frustrating task but managed to do it but be careful! i'll dig up the modle and post it later. > > > > > > Hey Rick, > > > > > > I need to replace the plastic part of my bow running light assembly, which hangs from and is welded to the pulpit. Do you know which model you purchased from Defender? The stainless steel back plate is still intact, as is the wiring and the bayonet fitting for the lamp (pictures in the Photo section). > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > --Dave > > > > > > |
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John, i was at boat today and the Perko model is A-16.
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