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Re: Season's end...sniff, sniff...
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI feel really bad for you guys up north.? Our fall
sailing season is just getting started.? We have a club race every weekend
from mid-October through March and then the regatta season starts.? Our
club rule for the winter is if it is forecast to be 35 or above we will
sail.?? I have been lax the past 5 years or so but plan to get active
again this winter.? Only once in the past 25 years can I remember ice on
our?lake.? It lasted for about a week and then we were at it
again.? Of course May, June, July, August are a bust, 90+ and rarely a
breeze!
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Mark
Nashville
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The Hot Stove Regatta
No it's not a race, for me the hot stove regatta is all the READING I do off season...
Let me share some great books for those that like to read about boats/boating/cruising. First - ANY BOOK by Anthony Bailey. He used to live nearby in Stonington, CT and was a frequent contributor to the New Yorker Magazine for many years. He was a Brit that moved to the states and lived here until the mid-late 80's. Probably one of his best books is The Coast of Summer - for over a decade he would fly from Britain to Stonington during the summer and cruise around MA, RI and CT shore. This books is wonderful account of his cruising years. I highly recommend this book. He also wrote a book called The Thousand Dollar Yacht which is a story of his first boat. Very funny and readable. This book was written ca. 1960'ish.. He also wrote any interesting book about the Intercoastal Waterway - a bit of history/adventure/local interest story. A Splendid Madness by Thomas Froncek, a long time editor for the Readers Digest (i think..) it is a story of middle age guy that buys his first boat - and falls in love with the boat and boating - for someone that got started sailing in mid-life its a story one can relate to very well. Song of the Sirens by Ernest K Gann - you probably know about this guy if your interested in flying/aviation. He actually was a good sailor and owned many boats. This book is his story of owning many sirens (sailboats..). Wonderful read. The Boat That Would Not Float - Farley Mowatt - classically comical read of restoring an old New Foundland workboat. Riverhorse - William Least Heat Moon (aka Bill Trogdan) - most of you probably have read his CLASSIC book - Blue Highways - and that was truly a classic but nothing to do about sailing - Riverhorse was Heat-Moon's story of going from New York to Washington state in a 21 foot C-Dory powerboat - it's a fascinating story - although he gets bogged down at times during the trip - especially certain parts where the story turns into rewrites of his log entries. You have to stick with it though - it is a good book if you can get thru some of the "slower parts". Any of the Hal Roth series - especially Two on a Big Ocean, Two Against Cape Horn, Always a Distant Anchorage, and Chasing the Longest Rainbow. He was a prolific writer and sailor, unfortunately he passed away in 2008. A good source for other books to read are below (the latter I posted some minor reviews...) If you haven't already visited, this is a must visit site: www.furledsails.com - many interesting podcasts Finally my monthly Good Old Boat and Sail Magazine helps me finish the Regatta in fine style... Happy Reading |
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Re: Season's end...sniff, sniff...
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A sad day no doubt. I have 2 more weeks. May play hookie tomorrow late afternoon and do a little late afternoon/early evening sail. I am lucky that my marine keep water going into mid-december - so winterizing the beast is doable, although I really want to wash/wax again before putting her away.... i tell you it seems like it has been windy in the northeast since LAST October. This summer there were very few light air days on Long Island Sound - usually summers on the sound are usually 5 knots or so. So far this fall the winds have been strong - with the past 2 weekends having winds of consistently 15-20 knots. Makes you wonder... Do you have a winter cover? I had gotten 2 quotes for winter covers - the kind that drape over the boom - about $1200-1300 for a winter cover. Was going to pull the trigger but it seems like such a waste of money...not sure if I am going to keep the stick up this year - I had double checked everything when I stepped the mast this year - all is fine except my profurl wrap stop must have loosened somewhat - or I mounted it wrong and it's not set correctly....plus I would like to get a new port shroud (got a new stbd shroud 2 years ago) and the lowers don't appear the original. Now you can relax! --- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" <uswa174@...> wrote:
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Hi Rick,
Thanks, I have to say it was perfect conditions. I haven't been able to duplicate those speeds since. Seems like if there's more wind it's too rough to keep up the speed, and heel angles get deeper. I'm guessing it was between 12-15 knots of wind ESE. The day started still and the breeze built early afternoon. We were reaching up near the windward shore, so I guess that's why it was so flat. This was on the way back up the bay from Rock Hall, MD July 10. That was my one big vacation week and it had been stinking hot and still for days before that and crummy weather was due in the next day. So that was my payoff day! My genoa is a 135. The video compression makes the sails look much tighter than they are in real life! They were made by Winters and I have no idea how old they are. Brad Linthicum's sail loft in Somerdale, NJ takes care of them for me. He says they are just "ok" lifespan-wise. I am very glad I replaced the stock traveler with an adjustable unit. It makes a huge difference trimming the main under way. Enjoy, Bob |
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Bob
Great video! You had perfect trim and sailing nice and flat so you were optimized. I hit 7.4 knots once and that was surfing down a 3 foot wave in 20 knots of wind. I'm actually very impressed that you hit that speed. The water was very flat what was the best guess of wind speed? Also your sails look great what loft do you use? Was that a 150 genny? Rick |
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Season's end...sniff, sniff...
Sometimes (well, not TOO often) I wish I lived down south somewheres where the sailing season is longer...Why? Well, I hauled my boat out today. The marina turns off the water this coming Monday, just in case of an early freeze, and closes for good on Nov. 1. The water level has been dropping over the past few weeks (not much rain lately), but the level was very low in the yacht basin this morning, in spite of the brisk WNW winds for the last 24 hours, and small craft advisories. Normally, the water level would rise under those conditions, given the 330 mile fetch down Lake Michigan. I arrived at the marina to see about half of the slips already vacated. I stepped DOWN to my boat this morning off the finger pier. Uh-oh, sez me. Gulp! Would there be enough water under the hoist, or would the day become..."interesting?" After backing out of my slip, making my way out of the yacht basin, and negotiating the drawbridge (made it on the button for the bridge lift), I slowly motored up to the hoist bay. My depth sounder read 4.0 feet under the keel, that is until I made my turn toward the bay. 3.0.....2.5.....2.0....1.5....1.0....0.5.....uh, oh sez me....beep, beep, beep, sez the low water alarm (shut up, you SOB, sez me, as I hit the silence button)....0.3...0.2...0.1...0.1...beep, beep, beep, and lasso the cleat. Made it with 1.2 inches to spare under the keel. Crikey! It was about 55 degrees outside, but I was sweating like it was August 1st. After that, all was well. The countdown to Spring has begun!
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Quiet...
Hi Rick,
I'm not ignoring y'all. Just trying to get as much time on the water as possible! If I get a chance, I do have some nice video clips under sail that I'll post. Had a nice sail to Rock Hall, MD last weekend but had to cut the ride short on the way home. Full Gale warnings and 20kt wind on the nose in a 3' chop, with lots of rain on the way. Left her at Worton Creek marina (about half way home) and snagged a lift back to mine. Crew was uncomfortable to say the least, but didn't complain! It'll cost some cash I wasn't counting on, and I'll have to bring her home some evening when the weather breaks, but I'll get points for not being a hardhead and keeping us out there til 2am. When we started the trip the forecast was for partly sunny and 5-8kts. Projects? I've swapped 2 of the exterior oil lines on the 1GM10 so far. And I really hope I've finally got them seated. I've had an annoying irregular oil leak for two seasons. (Those oil absorbing sheets are amazing. I leave one under the engine all the time.) I'll have to climb the mast to replace the anchor light bulb. That will be 4th time this season... (me Tarzan, you Jane!) My #1 battery is getting very weak & short cycle. It took me a while to learn that they don't both charge unless the Battery switch is set to both while under power. I swear I'm going to hang hooks and net bags in the cockpit lockers to organize lines & fenders & all that stuff! I rebedded the forward hatch last month. Now that it's dry I can feel how much water is seeping in the ports below it. They are next, then start on the stanchions. If someone has an idea how to get the black metal oxide stains out of the ceiling carpet (from wet hardware) I'd love to try. It looks pretty nasty and replacing it would be a big pain, although I did cut it up the center to do a lot of core replacement last year. Saggy life lines...exterior grab rails look like driftwood... gel coat repairs... lube winches... recoat hatch boards & tiller... buff & wax before winter... The list goes on. It's in the 50's and rainy here, feels like the season is running out. Enjoy, Bob |
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Re: sailing 10 knots downwind
keep up with those videos Charles! Next year I'll try some videos myself.
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Quiet...
Been quiet for a while here...
Anyone have any major projects or upgrades for fall/winter? I'm going to have the yard look at my keel - i am getting water in the bilge, some of it brown colored so I suspect one of the keel bolts is leaking - so this is going to be a costly repair to drop the keel if needed as 2 of the keel nuts are pretty corroded, although the rest are in great shape. There goes the budget for a new sail this year... Rick |
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Re: sailing 10 knots downwind
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Remember, I mentioned I managed to reach 10 knots on surfs with the genoa alone. I also have a symmetrical spinnaker which was not put up that day as I was sailing alone. As for the video, I wish there would be more S2 27 clips on Youtube for the benefit of all. I'd really like to see your boats in action. Go ahead, put your boat and sailing videos on Youtube and let us know it' there. BTW, I managed to make-it second overall on the Moonlight Marathon last weekend. The Marathon are races on Lake Champlain that are approximately 100 nautical miles in length. You can find the race results here: (BTW, they use the New England PHRF rating for the race). Charles s/v Nunavik (ex-Catalyst) 1995 S2-27, hull #12 Lake Champlain, NY --- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" <uswa174@...> wrote:
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Re: sailing 10 knots downwind
Outstanding, Charles! I have enjoyed your other videos, as well. It appears that Lake Champlain can develop some seriously steep, short chop, but it looks like a fun and interesting body of water to sail on. Do you have an asymmetrical spinnaker, or regular?
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Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 --- In s227classassociation@..., "cfilmcfilm" <cfilmcfilm@...> wrote:
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New file uploaded to s227classassociation
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the s227classassociation group. File : /1987 S2 27 Brochure.pdf Uploaded by : uswa174 <uswa174@...> Description : 1987 S2 27 Brochure You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, uswa174 <uswa174@...> |
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sailing 10 knots downwind
cfilmcfilm
Just to let you know I finally managed to make used of the flat hull design of the S2 27 by surfing downwind on 4 foot waves on lake Champlain, NY last weekend. It was a solo outing and I only had my 135% genoa fully unfurled with gusty winds ranging from 15 and 25+ knots. I did record a few strong gusts exceeding 35 knots.
Here's a short video of what I could read on my instruments then: As far as I can say, there was no apparent signs of stress on the boat, even if I averaged above 7 knots in the four hour I was sailing that day. Just can't wait to repeat this experience with a spinnaker. Charles s/v Nunavik (ex-Catalyst) 1995 S2-27, hull #12 Lake Champlain, NY |
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Re: Water Leaks (linked URL)
cfilmcfilm
Sorry about that, the hosting website doesn't allow external URL referral. You have to manually cut and paste the following link to see the picture as clicking-it won't work.
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,file=449 --- In s227classassociation@..., "cfilmcfilm" <cfilmcfilm@...> wrote:
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Re: Water Leaks
cfilmcfilm
Hi Dave,
I experienced the same water infiltration problem below the starboard lazarette. I finally found where the leak came from and it is from the transmission lever. Water drips from the transmission mechanism inside the lazarette. see picture here: ,file=449 I still haven't found a way to seal the lever so far. Any ideas? Charles s/v Nunavik (ex-Catalyst) 1995 S2-27, hull #12 Lake Champlain, NY |
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Re: new sails
Almost forgot: my main is loose-footed. I can't tell if your is from the photos. Whether or not you go loose-footed is a decision the local loft can help you with as well. Might make a difference if you race a lot -- by that I mean they will have the stats on the ratio of loose-footed to slotted they have built for the racers in your area. That might mean something for your conditions.
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Re: Water Leaks
Thanks, Bob. I hadn't even thought about dropping the lifelines to keep the birds off...great suggestion!
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Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 (model "B") --- In s227classassociation@..., Bob Taylor <woodwork@...> wrote:
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Re: new sails
Rick,
IMHO, any of the sailmakers you mentioned would likely build you a sail that you would be really happy with, in part because they are all well established lofts with good reputations--maybe the top three in the country. The fact that they have local lofts seems important to me. They can come to your boat, measure correctly, and make adjustments after the sale. Offshore lofts can't offer that, and local service might be worth it, even if more expensive up-front. If you race, perhaps one loft might be better than another, but who can really tell? FWIW, my 2006 sails were purchased by the PO of my boat, and are from the Elvstrom-Sobstad loft out of Sandusky, Ohio. I think the workmanship and cut are excellent. Dave S. s/v Clio 1987 S2 27, hull #80 (model "B") |
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