--- In s227classassociation@..., "sailjw" wrote:

Glad to see there is a group of S2 27 owners. I have owned hull # 44 since 1998. Has been fresh water sailed. Have enjoyed the boat and have a lot of miles under her keel thru the years both racing and cruising.
Bill

From: uswa174
To: s227classassociation@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: AutoHelm 800

--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:

I have an ST4000 on Clio. Based on my experience, you'll be asking, "Why didn't I do this sooner?" An AutoHelm is a fantastic addition to any boat, ranking right behind a roller furler, IMHO. Just don't fall off the boat when you are singlehanding and the AutoHelm is working...that would be a really bad deal...suffice it to say, I am careful not to let that happen. :)
___________________
Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80



--- In s227classassociation@..., "s227classassociation" wrote:

Did i mention i picked up an AutoHelm 800 recently? $80.00 from an older gent at the club. have an existing cantilever mount, tiller bracket and power outlet, but not the cantilever bracket and pushrod extension.

i look forward to using it next year...tired of the fire drill when singlehanded and trying to wrestle the main as the boat pirouettes all over the place...

--- In s227classassociation@..., Bob Taylor wrote:

Our tank is about 18 gallons, and one of us has listed their tank at
something under 10 gallons. So measuring it is a very good idea.
I used to charge our batteries at idle, but I've read the diesel experts
say that's a big no-no. Running at idle or no load for long hours glazes
cylinder walls and rings and we lose our compression way sooner than
running at a decent load. My 1GM10 seems happiest between 2500 and 3000
rpm. Fuel consumption is barely 1/2 gallon per hour.

Enjoy,

Bob

From: dickvanhooser

To: s227classassociation@...

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 10:00 AM

Subject: [s227classassociation] Fuel Capacity

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We're about to take my boat to the coast and put it in the water (very excited). It occured to me that I don't know how big the fuel tank is. Would someone please tell me how big the tank is and also, how many hours I can run the engine at idle, charging batteries, and/or at 3,000 rpm under power.

--- In s227classassociation@..., Mark Swart wrote:

Welcome!
Mine is keel stepped and after spending an hour plus trying to wrestle the mast in when I stepped it in August, I wish it was deck stepped! If you can find the right parts it shouldn't be that hard to do, but man it would feel pretty sick if you cut that mast in the wrong place!
I had an Oday 26 with a tabernacle and it worked fine, the mast was a bit shorter than the S2 but probably only a foot or two.
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Trailering is...interesting... with the 4'9 draft though.
??
-Mark


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From: dickvanhooser
To: s227classassociation@...
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject: [s227classassociation] Keel-stepped to Deck-stepped

??

I just bought an '86 S2 27 and the only reservation I had about it is that the mast is keel-stepped. I didn't even know they had made a deck-stepped version till I read this forum. I'm wondering if it's reasonable to convert to deck-stepped. Does the deck-stepped version have a tabernacle?

The reason I'm interested is that I would like to be able to trailer my boat up from the coast when a hurricane is approaching, and I'd like to be able to do this without relying on a boatyard to unstep the mast for me.

Dick

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:04 PM, "uswa174" <uswa174@...> wrote:

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Purrs! Now you have brought a smile to my face! Thumps, maybe! ;-)

Dave S.
S/V Clio

--- In s227classassociation@..., Gene Trosterud wrote:
>
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> Thx for all the feedback - turns out the culprit was two very dead batteries. Ironically, everything else was working (though dimly) off the battery charger. Once the charger was turned off - everything died. Not sure how I missed that one. Needless to say, after an embarrassing replacement of the dead batteries - the engine starts and purrs (like a single cyl Yammar). Will save the ignition solenoid relay mod for next time... Gene#35
> To: s227classassociation@...
> From: uswa174@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:58:26 +0000
> Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Has anyone with a 1GM10 installed a solenoid...
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> I bought a Cole-Hersee rubber clad continuous duty at West Marine, part #24117-01. Read somewhere that was the one to use (Hunter forum, maybe...) Haven't installed it yet...
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> --Dave S.
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> S/V Clio
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> --- In s227classassociation@..., "gray_havens" wrote:
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> >
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> > Have the same situation here in CC where I press the starter button and nothing happens. I plan to check/clean the grounds and clean the connections on the harness - as suggested earlier in email trail. One question regarding the solenoid starting modification mentioned in the Hunter email trail link. Has anyone done this wiring mod? Which solenid relay did you use - as I see the company makes both continuous and intermittent. Was there a specific part #?
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> > Thx,
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> > Gene
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> > --- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." wrote:
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> > > Charles,
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> > > Thanks for your detailed reply. On my way back to the dock after my sail this past Saturday, I had to hit the starter button eight times before the starter finally engaged. What you have described certainly seems to be an easy and quick fix...I'll give it a try later this week. Thanks again. I appreciate it very much.
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> > > Dave S.
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> > > s/v Clio
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> > > 1987 S2 27, hull #80
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> > >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
>
> > > From: "cfilmcfilm" [cfilmcfilm@]
>
> > > Date: 07/31/2011 01:04 AM
>
> > > To: "uswa174"
>
> > > Subject: Re: Has anyone with a 1GM10 installed a solenoid...
>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > I experienced the exact same problem: the engine would randomly start after hitting the start button anywhere from 1 to 6 or 7 times. It must be said that once the start button properly engages, the engine starts immediately without any further problems.
>
> > >
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> > > After conducting a fairly extensive search on the Internet with a focus on Yanmar engines, I found this very simple solution which is free and only takes fifteen minutes of your time. Plus it is non-destructive and only requires a pair of long-nose pliers and a screw driver. Here's how:
>
> > >
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> > > 1- Locate the two cable harnesses locate behind the engine. This can be done with relative ease as you stand in front of the engine. (hint: look on the Port side)
>
> > >
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> > > 2- Disconnect the larger cable harness.
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> > >
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> > > 3- Locate the two large pins from the male connector and gently bend them slightly (outward of the connector).
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> > > 4- Ideally, you should clean all the connector contacts.
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> > > 5- Reconnect the cable harness (behind the engine).
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> > > 5- Now, go in the storage compartment behind the head (on Starboard side) and remove the wood box casing protecting the back of the engine instrument panel.
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> > > 6- Repeat step 2 to 4.
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> > > 7- Re-install the wood box casing.
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> > > 8- Press the engine start button a few times as to validate it resolved the issue.
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> > >
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> > > The problem resides in the poor conductivity of the starting circuit as its wiring passes through many components and interconnections. Over time, dirt and vibration weaken that circuit, ultimately compromising its electrical integrity. The above trick is in effect reestablishing conductivity in two critical interconnections of the starting circuit.
>
> > >
>
> > > I've done this earlier this spring and it resolved the problem. My engine has been starting a the first push of the start button ever since.
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> > >
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> > > Hope this is helpful.
>
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> > > Charles
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> > > s/v Nunavik
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> > > Lake Champlain, NY
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > --- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > > upstream of the starter? My boat has the dreaded Yanmar start problem due to undersized wiring (turn key, push start button, nothin'...repeat 3-8 times until starter finally engages). One fix that I have read about on other forums (link below) is to install a solenoid downstream from the panel, and upstream from the starter with 8 gauge wire. Just wondering about your experiences if you have done this.
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--- In s227classassociation@..., Gene Trosterud wrote:

Thx for all the feedback - turns out the culprit was two very dead batteries. Ironically, everything else was working (though dimly) off the battery charger. Once the charger was turned off - everything died. Not sure how I missed that one. Needless to say, after an embarrassing replacement of the dead batteries - the engine starts and purrs (like a single cyl Yammar). Will save the ignition solenoid relay mod for next time... Gene#35
To: s227classassociation@...
From: uswa174@...
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:58:26 +0000
Subject: [s227classassociation] Re: Has anyone with a 1GM10 installed a solenoid...


























I bought a Cole-Hersee rubber clad continuous duty at West Marine, part #24117-01. Read somewhere that was the one to use (Hunter forum, maybe...) Haven't installed it yet...



--Dave S.

S/V Clio



--- In s227classassociation@..., "gray_havens" wrote:

Have the same situation here in CC where I press the starter button and nothing happens. I plan to check/clean the grounds and clean the connections on the harness - as suggested earlier in email trail. One question regarding the solenoid starting modification mentioned in the Hunter email trail link. Has anyone done this wiring mod? Which solenid relay did you use - as I see the company makes both continuous and intermittent. Was there a specific part #?

Thx,

Gene

#35

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." wrote:

Charles,

Thanks for your detailed reply. On my way back to the dock after my sail this past Saturday, I had to hit the starter button eight times before the starter finally engaged. What you have described certainly seems to be an easy and quick fix...I'll give it a try later this week. Thanks again. I appreciate it very much.

Dave S.

s/v Clio

1987 S2 27, hull #80

-----Original Message-----

From: "cfilmcfilm" [cfilmcfilm@]

Date: 07/31/2011 01:04 AM

To: "uswa174"

Subject: Re: Has anyone with a 1GM10 installed a solenoid...

I experienced the exact same problem: the engine would randomly start after hitting the start button anywhere from 1 to 6 or 7 times. It must be said that once the start button properly engages, the engine starts immediately without any further problems.

After conducting a fairly extensive search on the Internet with a focus on Yanmar engines, I found this very simple solution which is free and only takes fifteen minutes of your time. Plus it is non-destructive and only requires a pair of long-nose pliers and a screw driver. Here's how:

1- Locate the two cable harnesses locate behind the engine. This can be done with relative ease as you stand in front of the engine. (hint: look on the Port side)

2- Disconnect the larger cable harness.

3- Locate the two large pins from the male connector and gently bend them slightly (outward of the connector).

4- Ideally, you should clean all the connector contacts.

5- Reconnect the cable harness (behind the engine).

5- Now, go in the storage compartment behind the head (on Starboard side) and remove the wood box casing protecting the back of the engine instrument panel.

6- Repeat step 2 to 4.

7- Re-install the wood box casing.

8- Press the engine start button a few times as to validate it resolved the issue.

The problem resides in the poor conductivity of the starting circuit as its wiring passes through many components and interconnections. Over time, dirt and vibration weaken that circuit, ultimately compromising its electrical integrity. The above trick is in effect reestablishing conductivity in two critical interconnections of the starting circuit.

I've done this earlier this spring and it resolved the problem. My engine has been starting a the first push of the start button ever since.

Hope this is helpful.

Charles

s/v Nunavik

Lake Champlain, NY

--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:

upstream of the starter? My boat has the dreaded Yanmar start problem due to undersized wiring (turn key, push start button, nothin'...repeat 3-8 times until starter finally engages). One fix that I have read about on other forums (link below) is to install a solenoid downstream from the panel, and upstream from the starter with 8 gauge wire. Just wondering about your experiences if you have done this.

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "cfilmcfilm" [cfilmcfilm@]
> > Date: 07/31/2011 01:04 AM
> > To: "uswa174"
> > Subject: Re: Has anyone with a 1GM10 installed a solenoid...
> >
> >
> >
> > I experienced the exact same problem: the engine would randomly start after hitting the start button anywhere from 1 to 6 or 7 times. It must be said that once the start button properly engages, the engine starts immediately without any further problems.
> >
> > After conducting a fairly extensive search on the Internet with a focus on Yanmar engines, I found this very simple solution which is free and only takes fifteen minutes of your time. Plus it is non-destructive and only requires a pair of long-nose pliers and a screw driver. Here's how:
> >
> > 1- Locate the two cable harnesses locate behind the engine. This can be done with relative ease as you stand in front of the engine. (hint: look on the Port side)
> >
> > 2- Disconnect the larger cable harness.
> >
> > 3- Locate the two large pins from the male connector and gently bend them slightly (outward of the connector).
> >
> > 4- Ideally, you should clean all the connector contacts.
> >
> > 5- Reconnect the cable harness (behind the engine).
> >
> > 5- Now, go in the storage compartment behind the head (on Starboard side) and remove the wood box casing protecting the back of the engine instrument panel.
> >
> > 6- Repeat step 2 to 4.
> >
> > 7- Re-install the wood box casing.
> >
> > 8- Press the engine start button a few times as to validate it resolved the issue.
> >
> >
> > The problem resides in the poor conductivity of the starting circuit as its wiring passes through many components and interconnections. Over time, dirt and vibration weaken that circuit, ultimately compromising its electrical integrity. The above trick is in effect reestablishing conductivity in two critical interconnections of the starting circuit.
> >
> > I've done this earlier this spring and it resolved the problem. My engine has been starting a the first push of the start button ever since.
> >
> > Hope this is helpful.
> >
> > Charles
> > s/v Nunavik
> > Lake Champlain, NY
> >
> >
> > --- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:
> > >
> > > upstream of the starter? My boat has the dreaded Yanmar start problem due to undersized wiring (turn key, push start button, nothin'...repeat 3-8 times until starter finally engages). One fix that I have read about on other forums (link below) is to install a solenoid downstream from the panel, and upstream from the starter with 8 gauge wire. Just wondering about your experiences if you have done this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In s227classassociation@..., "gray_havens" wrote:

Have the same situation here in CC where I press the starter button and nothing happens. I plan to check/clean the grounds and clean the connections on the harness - as suggested earlier in email trail. One question regarding the solenoid starting modification mentioned in the Hunter email trail link. Has anyone done this wiring mod? Which solenid relay did you use - as I see the company makes both continuous and intermittent. Was there a specific part #?
Thx,
Gene
#35

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." wrote:

Charles,

Thanks for your detailed reply. On my way back to the dock after my sail this past Saturday, I had to hit the starter button eight times before the starter finally engaged. What you have described certainly seems to be an easy and quick fix...I'll give it a try later this week. Thanks again. I appreciate it very much.

Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80

-----Original Message-----
From: "cfilmcfilm" [cfilmcfilm@]
Date: 07/31/2011 01:04 AM
To: "uswa174"
Subject: Re: Has anyone with a 1GM10 installed a solenoid...



I experienced the exact same problem: the engine would randomly start after hitting the start button anywhere from 1 to 6 or 7 times. It must be said that once the start button properly engages, the engine starts immediately without any further problems.

After conducting a fairly extensive search on the Internet with a focus on Yanmar engines, I found this very simple solution which is free and only takes fifteen minutes of your time. Plus it is non-destructive and only requires a pair of long-nose pliers and a screw driver. Here's how:

1- Locate the two cable harnesses locate behind the engine. This can be done with relative ease as you stand in front of the engine. (hint: look on the Port side)

2- Disconnect the larger cable harness.

3- Locate the two large pins from the male connector and gently bend them slightly (outward of the connector).

4- Ideally, you should clean all the connector contacts.

5- Reconnect the cable harness (behind the engine).

5- Now, go in the storage compartment behind the head (on Starboard side) and remove the wood box casing protecting the back of the engine instrument panel.

6- Repeat step 2 to 4.

7- Re-install the wood box casing.

8- Press the engine start button a few times as to validate it resolved the issue.


The problem resides in the poor conductivity of the starting circuit as its wiring passes through many components and interconnections. Over time, dirt and vibration weaken that circuit, ultimately compromising its electrical integrity. The above trick is in effect reestablishing conductivity in two critical interconnections of the starting circuit.

I've done this earlier this spring and it resolved the problem. My engine has been starting a the first push of the start button ever since.

Hope this is helpful.

Charles
s/v Nunavik
Lake Champlain, NY


--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:

upstream of the starter? My boat has the dreaded Yanmar start problem due to undersized wiring (turn key, push start button, nothin'...repeat 3-8 times until starter finally engages). One fix that I have read about on other forums (link below) is to install a solenoid downstream from the panel, and upstream from the starter with 8 gauge wire. Just wondering about your experiences if you have done this.

--- In s227classassociation@..., "Dave S." wrote:

Charles,

Thanks for your detailed reply. On my way back to the dock after my sail this past Saturday, I had to hit the starter button eight times before the starter finally engaged. What you have described certainly seems to be an easy and quick fix...I'll give it a try later this week. Thanks again. I appreciate it very much.

Dave S.
s/v Clio
1987 S2 27, hull #80

-----Original Message-----
From: "cfilmcfilm" [cfilmcfilm@...]
Date: 07/31/2011 01:04 AM
To: "uswa174"
Subject: Re: Has anyone with a 1GM10 installed a solenoid...



I experienced the exact same problem: the engine would randomly start after hitting the start button anywhere from 1 to 6 or 7 times. It must be said that once the start button properly engages, the engine starts immediately without any further problems.

After conducting a fairly extensive search on the Internet with a focus on Yanmar engines, I found this very simple solution which is free and only takes fifteen minutes of your time. Plus it is non-destructive and only requires a pair of long-nose pliers and a screw driver. Here's how:

1- Locate the two cable harnesses locate behind the engine. This can be done with relative ease as you stand in front of the engine. (hint: look on the Port side)

2- Disconnect the larger cable harness.

3- Locate the two large pins from the male connector and gently bend them slightly (outward of the connector).

4- Ideally, you should clean all the connector contacts.

5- Reconnect the cable harness (behind the engine).

5- Now, go in the storage compartment behind the head (on Starboard side) and remove the wood box casing protecting the back of the engine instrument panel.

6- Repeat step 2 to 4.

7- Re-install the wood box casing.

8- Press the engine start button a few times as to validate it resolved the issue.


The problem resides in the poor conductivity of the starting circuit as its wiring passes through many components and interconnections. Over time, dirt and vibration weaken that circuit, ultimately compromising its electrical integrity. The above trick is in effect reestablishing conductivity in two critical interconnections of the starting circuit.

I've done this earlier this spring and it resolved the problem. My engine has been starting a the first push of the start button ever since.

Hope this is helpful.

Charles
s/v Nunavik
Lake Champlain, NY


--- In s227classassociation@..., "uswa174" wrote:

upstream of the starter? My boat has the dreaded Yanmar start problem due to undersized wiring (turn key, push start button, nothin'...repeat 3-8 times until starter finally engages). One fix that I have read about on other forums (link below) is to install a solenoid downstream from the panel, and upstream from the starter with 8 gauge wire. Just wondering about your experiences if you have done this.