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Kirk/ Mac, I will look at home in mine magazines-(german), I think there are all the examples in. I will send them by mail this weekend. Anthony - - In R90SWORLDNET@..., "Mac Kirkpatrick" <drbeemer@s...> wrote: Guggenheim Orange Anthony US. He now a Guggenheim not a my see just the fork of the shame not have was a lives about store to not a for? I BMW ('84 records at he Hyabusa miles on

Indeed, a tres chic machine, Kirk. In addition to what Mac spotted, I was wondering if that clutch lever was stock - I like those little finger groove indentations. Also, that's a beautiful finish on your engine cases - how did you do that? Troy

From: Kirk Ratzel <eur90s@... Here's a picture of my 74 R90s now... the purists out there will notice a several mods. (spot them all and win a prize). Kirk: Okay, I can't resist with guessing what mods you have had done to your beautiful awesome R90s. I will be critical here in hopes that I catch everything so I get the prize..... And the prize is your R90s, right? Don't think badly of me for getting toooo picky. Your bike has had the following changed from the factory from new as far as I can tell: Drilled discs. The '74s had solid discs. Spark plug caps. Yours are from a later R, '84 vintage or so. Stainless steel brake lines. New horn. White battery. The originals were black. (I know picky picky, WHAT you expect me to have an original battery?) New shocks. (By the way, you can easily modify the original aluminum covers for the shocks by just making the top hole in the cover a little bigger and it will fit over most new shocks. And the original aluminum covers are getting harder to find. Replacements from BMW now don't have the finning or cuts into the bottom of the cover anymore.) Fork brace. Fork boots. Rear rack (Was a factory option though.) Reflectors front and rear are missing. Repaint job. The battery covers are too silverey. (I like it better than the factory job. Very nice.) Crash bars. Windshield is higher than stock. Newer seat cover. '74s had far less ribbing across the seat, from side to side. Better for riding like you have it though. As far as I am concerned your bike is perfect for riding. That is how I would do an R90s to ride. Just add bags for me. I love it. It's funny but I go back and forth as to which color and year R90s I prefer. At first I prefered the TT Silver Smoke. Then I came to prefer the Daytona Orange. But I think it is a toss up for me between the '74 Silver Smoke with the starter, aluminum gas cap and turn signal bodies and the '76 in Daytona Orange. (Hey Mac, can't you make up your mind?) Your bike is really a jewel to look at. Thanks for sharing Kirk. Best, Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA USA

This bio from Blake Smith.... THANKS Blake. Mac Kirkpatrick ----------------------------- i joined because i love to ride my r90s. its my first beemer after a history of a few japanese street bikes but mostly dirt riding when i was young. after riding a friends /6 i knew i wanted an old airhead. after many months of looking "jugs" fell into my hands. i ride her hard and often. she's a great friend and fairly easy to work on. its nothing near stock, but if it was i wouldn't be riding it nearly as often. b 75r90s "jugs" Best, Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA USA

if a user follows the link to update a user profile for multiple email addresses, you must have a password. please contact me in this regard. i need to add another email address. tia blake

--Mac/ Kirk, Fork bootes where never standard at a R 90's model in production! The R 90 had fork bootes. Anthony - In R90SWORLDNET@..., "Kirk Ratzel" <eur90s@h...> wrote: picture (of a again, I had Guggenheim Orange Anthony US. He in a Guggenheim not a my you see was just the fork of the shame not was a lives about store is not a for? I BMW records guessed he Hyabusa miles on ______________________________________________________________________ ___ http://www.hotmail.com.

Ron Carter said: Mac I took my son go karting in Glemore this month. I am in that area frequently for work so perhaps we can meet. Mac responded: Ron please come on by anytime and bring a friend or two or three. I love having visitors. Really. 610/942-9305 I hope to see you soon. And sorry for the long time to respond to your email. BTW, I am still working on the certificate program details. Best, Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA USA

Hello all! I joined the group today. I think I am number 29. I wish I knew about the R90S rally last month as I just re-took possession of my 1976 R90S. I am the original owner and it was ordered for me by the dealer. It was covered in a friend's heated barn for the past 12 years with 8,000 original miles on it. I would really like to get the certificate that was displayed on the site listed: http://www.egroups.com/files/slash2/zertifikat.JPG. Does anyone know any more about that? Please let me know, and thanks! It is great getting back into the fold after 26 years. I am looking foward to joining you all at the next rally and other events that come up. I was an original R90S enthusiast and seeing my BMW, after all these years brought back unbelievable memories. I want to bring it back to origial riding condition so any input, advice or caveats are welcome and wanted. I also enjoyed reading the all of the postings so far. This is a great site and please keep up the good work. PS: MAC I took my son go karting in Glemore this month. I am in that area frequently for work so perhaps we can meet. Ron Cantor

Many thanks to Ron Cantor for submitting his fascinating bio which follows below. It is really a love story!!! Thanks for sharing Ron!!!! Mac Kirkpatrick I read Mac's request to biographical info on our readership. Here is my R90S story with related two-wheeled background. I am 52 and have been riding the Heritage Springer for over three years. And, " if I have to explain that you wouldn't understand" but probably you all would. A friend of mine (he can identify himself on the list if he wants!) turned me on to this venue and I am sorry I missed the rally. I look forward to next year. Anyway, I recently took delivery (well, actually I had to pick it up 90 miles away) of my 1975 R90 S (TT Silver Smoke). For the second time around. I was the original owner and in 1986 I gave it to a person (an old friend of my father's) who, 24 years earlier (when I was 14) gave me his Vespa 90 to use at my disposal. He needed a garage to store it for his occasional ride. Our house had a garage, his house, I found out later, was a garage. This Vespa was like part of my body. At 14 years of age, I drove it, illegally, everywhere, in all weather, rain or shine. The only time I ever "dropped" it was on Mermaid Lane, in the snow! It just could not negotiate the turn. It slid out from under me, but I held on and in true road racing fashion, I kept my left foot out, sort of like a snowplow and somehow didn't get hurt. The clutch, transmission or brake cable broke at least once a week. I mastered the pit stop fix for those cables and used all sorts of replacement material when a real cable (it was the soldered ends that broke) was not available. I could perform the equivalent of "flat shifting" that thing all day long. It was always "floored". The headlight rim "springs" that held the headlight straight and in the housing were forever coming loose. It was a crazy time and "Rotary Ron" became my nickname because of my love of my that Vespa and my first "mini bike" that I convinced my father to let me reconstruct out of a frame that I got and a new Briggs and Stratten motor that he actually bought me when I was about 12. I loved two wheels. At 16 I got a 1962 (I think that was the year) Honda 305 Super Hawk, with the chrome tank panels that I wish I could find today. My IQ must have been less than the cruising speed I used to push that thing to back then, but triple digits was the goal whenever the road was clear. A 650 BSA Lightning Rocket, and one half of a Norton 750 Commando where my next rides while I was still in high school. My closest two-wheeled friend became a Yamaha Motorcycle dealer in Philadelphia and then in 1974 he got the BMW franchise. Soon after he ordered me the R90S. It was a magnificent time to be on two wheels. It was unfortunate that he died a few years later in an unrelated accident in his home, but I drove a brand new R100S behind the hearse at his funeral. The title says I originally got my R90S in May of 1975. I drove it for fun and only put about 8,000 miles on it and then really just stopped riding it except for special occasions. After all, I had entered the business world, had responsibilities and also was in and out of a few cool cars back then. I did not make time to keep riding. Plus, the "she" back then was not really into it. Later, in 1988 with my fortunes improved, my father's old friend in my employ and with my first-born child due, I decided not to ride anymore. For a while, anyway. However, it occurred to me that I could never "sell" my bike, so I just stored it. One day I realized that the right thing to do was to give it to this person, Al, in return for being generous to me in my youth. He could not believe it, but took it just the same and quickly transferred the title that I gave him to his name. Eleven years went by and I did not see or hear from him. My dad died and my thoughts turned to the recipient of my generosity. I located him in Maine, were he was spending his monthly week there. On his return to Philadelphia he brought lobsters for my wife and three kids on that cold winter night and we remini

I just had to post the following email I received from Blake Smith. He and I had discussed his R90s which he has named "Jugs". (BTW, I must have a dirty mind!!! See below.) Mac Kirkpatrick thanks. btw, "jugs" is only politically incorrect if you have a dirty mind. i mean everyone knows i'm just talking about the cylinders, yet for some reason my girlfriend won't call my bike by its name. :>) b

What is the reason that nowbody of the members has filled in the members profile? Are we afraid that there are beemers getting "stolen"? To know a bit more about a persone makes it easer to write with I think. Anthony Holland

I will send more pictures and reading stuf. Anthony

Readers, Here some stuff I promised. Anthony

i'm not sure where the rest of you stand, but from my experience with other newsgroups and mailing lists, it usually isn't cosher to send attachments (photos, things other than a simple text email). try sending a link where the content can be seen. if anyone doesn't understand this feel free to email me, offlist of course. b

Mac, If you have got it, take a look at page 336 and 337 from the Guggenheim Museum "The Art of the Motorcycle". A European version Daytona Orange wearing rubber stockings. There are other examples too... maybe Anthony knows more? Kirk Kirk: I have that book, it is in front me now open to page 336/337. The R90s pictured is owned by Dave Percival of Maine, here in the US. He now owns 17 R90ss, and about 95 BMWs in total. He loaned his restored R32 for the exhibit also, see page 150. Way beautiful, but I understand it is built up from parts. Dave has a fabulous collection of BMWs. He and I speak every once in a while, the last time about 3 weeks ago. He is a very nice guy. I was privileged to be able to attend the press opening of the Guggenheim Museum in New York City and I looked at this R90s in detail. It is not a very good example of an R90s although the picture is a good one. In my experience pictures turn out better than what is actually being photographed. The R90s in the picture has an aftermarket fork brace. The plate you see just below the seat vinyl said something about a prior owner. It was just glued in place. This R90s is a US model according to the owner, so the fork boots are aftermarket. This bike is a nice R90s but it was not really great at all. Many of the people who attended the Guggenheim exhibit mentioned that it was a shame that the R90s example was not that great and said it was a shame to not have had a better example to display. Kirk's R90s in the picture looked much better. The Guggenheim R90s was a little worn. BTW the Ducati 750SS on page 327 is owned by Larry Forstall who lives about 10 miles from me. I met him one day when I was visiting a car parts store to buy an H4 bulb in 100 watt for my K100RS (now sold.) He said that is not a legal bulb (55 watt is the maximum allowed), and what did I want it for? I told him it was for my K100RS driving lights and he said he owned a BMW ('84 R100RS "Last Edition"). It turned out had set several land speed records at Bonneville. He had VERY thick glassed and I would have never guessed he would be into land speed records!!! He just set another land speed record recently at Bonneville on a Hyabusa (sp?), don't recall the speed though. It was high though! To make a short story long, THIS 750 SS Ducati has ZERO original miles on it!!!! Larry owns about four 750 SS Ducatis in total!!! Best, Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA USA

Kirk (and others) are very correct about the reflectors only being on US R90s models. Now that I think about it the US dealer brochures picturing the R90s model had a nice picture of the R90s, BUT the reflectors were obviously added to the picture, even perhaps pasted onto the picture before it was published. At least that is what it looks like in the brochures. These reflectors were a crude add-on to the US brochures. Here's a Challenge: I don't think the R90s was ever produced with fork boots (gaitors, etc.) for any market in the world. BMW may may have had them for the customer to add later on (after the sale of the bike), but maybe that is not true either. You can find many many pictures of the R90s with fork boots on the bike, but these are not pictures from the factory, these are pictures from subsequent owners and the gaitors were added to portect the fork seals from being ruined. Prove me wrong....... Best, Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA USA

Friends, Let me now if you all want to see more of the R 90's because I have a lot more to show you all. Anthony