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Re: Wanted: Alternative to Obsession's 20" "Classic" Dobsonian: 22" UC or Alternative Manufacturer?
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I went to the Web site today and it appears that classics up to 20" are still for sale there. Is this an error? Does the Obsession Web site not reflect (no pun intended) current reality? Chas. (Still hoping to buy a Classic in the near future...) On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 11:44:02 AM EDT, Johnie Scofield <bandjinpnx@...> wrote: I don't think I have every knocked any product on-line. But my advise and experience is the same. The UC has serious design issues an is a real pian to set up and keep in good condition. Buy an used standard model if it is to be an Obsession. I ending up buying another quality 18" ( no product plugs and he is no longer making them now) and am SUPER happy. My UC18 .... I am strongly contemplating cannibalizing it and making a lightweight of my own. Not knocking Obsessions .... just the UC design. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeffrey D. Gortatowsky via groups.io <indanapt@...> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 8:18 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ObsessionUsers] Wanted: Alternative to Obsession's 20" "Classic" Dobsonian: 22" UC or Alternative Manufacturer? ? I?WOULD NOT?repeat?WOULD NOT?buy any Obsession UC product.? I own one of the ?18 UC models fabricated in 2017, the optics are great, as long as you don¡¯t move the scope back and forth across the sky more than once or twice in a night.? IT CANNOT HOLD COLLIMATION for crap.? I have had it looked at buy many folks.? Krieg admitted that it is a poor design for ServoCat due to the stress that the ServoCat places on the bearings.? I ended up buying a used CLASSIC obsession 20¡± from Astromart. AMEN BROTHER. Except you got him to talk. I got NOTHING from him. The UCs are a RIPOFF. But if ANYONE wants to come to Southern California, I'd be happy to sell my UC-22 with servocat for 10,500 USD. Not a penny less.? That is 4k less than I paid.? I'd write that off as an expensive lesson. ---------------------------------------? Jeff Gortatowsky Religion... together we can find the cure." - Richard Dawkins On Friday, October 15, 2021, 08:11:11 PM PDT, charles jagow <chuck@...> wrote: Webster has been out of business for a while.? Take a look at New Moon telescopes in Virginia, Teeter scopes, and Star Structure ? I WOULD NOT repeat WOULD NOT buy any Obsession UC product.? I own one of the ?18 UC models fabricated in 2017, the optics are great, as long as you don¡¯t move the scope back and forth across the sky more than once or twice in a night.? IT CANNOT HOLD COLLIMATION for crap.? I have had it looked at buy many folks.? Krieg admitted that it is a poor design for ServoCat due to the stress that the ServoCat places on the bearings.? I ended up buying a used CLASSIC obsession 20¡± from Astromart. ? I spoke with Dave K. at length concerning my UC18, and he was at a total loss and just apologized.? His only reasoning for continuing the UC scope is that they are ¡°easier¡± to fabricate and take less time and effort, plus they are the ¡°techie¡± kind of thing.? Since Dave is a Dentist by trade and started the Obsession line as a side, I think he is trying to minimize a bit.? I will never buy another Obsession product unless he starts producing the Classic design again. ? When I can scrape the $$$ together I will have New Moon telescopes build me an 18¡± scope with no optics, focuser etc and then migrate the guts of the 18UC to the new hull.? But I am enjoying my new-to-me 20¡± Classic, had it four months now and have only collimated ONCE when I first put it together.? I roll it out of the garage and about 50¡¯ down my somewhat bumpy driveway three or four times a week to view. ?Even though I must use my ladder to set the 20¡± up, it takes less time to set up than the 18UC, about fifteen minutes or so. ? Sorry there is not better news about the UC line of scopes.? But the ultimate in portability (fit in an airline packing crate) comes at a cost of stability.? Sure, there are people who will rave about how much they ¡°love¡± their UC, but how many people will admit they made a $10K mistake?? I now know four others who bought 18UC and 22 UC scopes and dumped them on Astromart within six months due their inability to maintain collimation. ? ? v/r Chuck Jagow ? From:<[email protected]> on behalf of Christine Zeltner <czeltner356@...> ? There is Webster Telescopes, New Moon and a couple more I cannot remember. ? I have the 15 UC and love it but it really needs a level surface. ? Chris ? On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 3:01 PM <mtomalonis@...> wrote:
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