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GP9 Friday, 1983


 

March 5, 1983, Walerga, Sacramemento, California, SP 3413 east. The two lead GP9s were live, the other units were dead in tow.



Mike Tisdale




 

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Mike,

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Loved this photo of SP GP9s.? They ran for years on the SP Commute service between San Francisco and San Jose, now Caltrain.?

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Phil Burton

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:21 PM
To: [email protected]; Richard Greenwood <steam.richard@...>; Calrailfans <[email protected]>; Grahame McDonald <grahame_robert_mcdon@...>
Subject: [ObservationCar] GP9 Friday, 1983

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March 5, 1983, Walerga, Sacramemento, California, SP 3413 east. The two lead GP9s were live, the other units were dead in tow.

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Mike Tisdale

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It's hard for me to picture GP9s doing commuter stuff, but I'm glad you mentioned it.?

Andy


 

Yeah, the GP9s were regulars on the commutes from the 1950s into the 1980s.? They replaced steam and ran on the commutes until Caltrain took over from SP in 1985.??

EMD intended the GP series to be used for everything and railroads did.? Norfolk and Western and Grand Trunk Western dieselized late and used GP9s as their regular passenger power on intercity trains.? SP was not the only railroad to use them on commuter service.? ?

Mike Tisdale

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 10:59:42 AM PST, Andy Smith <andysmith22@...> wrote:


[Edited Message Follows]

It's hard for me to picture GP9s doing commuter stuff, but I'm glad you mentioned it.?

Andy


 

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I don¡¯t remember 40 years ago perfectly, but I seem to recall that the SP service was all/almost all GP9 until sometime into the 80s.? Along with Harriman coaches.

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Phil Burton

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:53 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] GP9 Friday, 1983

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Yeah, the GP9s were regulars on the commutes from the 1950s into the 1980s.? They replaced steam and ran on the commutes until Caltrain took over from SP in 1985.??

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EMD intended the GP series to be used for everything and railroads did.? Norfolk and Western and Grand Trunk Western dieselized late and used GP9s as their regular passenger power on intercity trains.? SP was not the only railroad to use them on commuter service.? ?

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Mike Tisdale

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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 10:59:42 AM PST, Andy Smith <andysmith22@...> wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

It's hard for me to picture GP9s doing commuter stuff, but I'm glad you mentioned it.?

Andy


 

The "new" Caltrain equipment was put into service in 1985.

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 10:57:28 AM PST, Phil Burton <philip-b@...> wrote:


I don¡¯t remember 40 years ago perfectly, but I seem to recall that the SP service was all/almost all GP9 until sometime into the 80s.? Along with Harriman coaches.

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Phil Burton

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:53 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] GP9 Friday, 1983

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Yeah, the GP9s were regulars on the commutes from the 1950s into the 1980s.? They replaced steam and ran on the commutes until Caltrain took over from SP in 1985.??

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EMD intended the GP series to be used for everything and railroads did.? Norfolk and Western and Grand Trunk Western dieselized late and used GP9s as their regular passenger power on intercity trains.? SP was not the only railroad to use them on commuter service.? ?

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Mike Tisdale

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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 10:59:42 AM PST, Andy Smith <andysmith22@...> wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

It's hard for me to picture GP9s doing commuter stuff, but I'm glad you mentioned it.?

Andy


 

SP used GP9s and H-24-66es from the 1950s until the 1970s, when SDP45s replaced the FMs. 3 GP40P-2s replaced the last FMs around 1975. SD7s, SD9s and an FP7 also were used on the commutes.?

The Harriman and sub cars were supplemented with gallery cars built in the 1950s and 60s. The first gallery cars were pulled by steam.?

Mike Tisdale



On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 11:06 AM, Bill Hough via groups.io
<psa188@...> wrote:
The "new" Caltrain equipment was put into service in 1985.

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 10:57:28 AM PST, Phil Burton <philip-b@...> wrote:


I don¡¯t remember 40 years ago perfectly, but I seem to recall that the SP service was all/almost all GP9 until sometime into the 80s.? Along with Harriman coaches.

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Phil Burton

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:53 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] GP9 Friday, 1983

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Yeah, the GP9s were regulars on the commutes from the 1950s into the 1980s.? They replaced steam and ran on the commutes until Caltrain took over from SP in 1985.??

?

EMD intended the GP series to be used for everything and railroads did.? Norfolk and Western and Grand Trunk Western dieselized late and used GP9s as their regular passenger power on intercity trains.? SP was not the only railroad to use them on commuter service.? ?

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Mike Tisdale

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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 10:59:42 AM PST, Andy Smith <andysmith22@...> wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

It's hard for me to picture GP9s doing commuter stuff, but I'm glad you mentioned it.?

Andy


 

I know I'm grave digging a bit here but I found it fitting that the day after this was posted I saw a SP GP on a commuter train on a twitter account I follow, ment this whole time to bring it up. It wasn't a 9 but close enough I could picture a 9 doing so.?

Andy Smith


 

SP bought 3 GP40P-2s to replace the last of the F-Ms on the commutes.? They worked with the GP9s and SDP45s until Caltrain got their own equipment in 1985.? Often a mid day train with 2 or 3 cars would have 1 GP9, while rush hour trains would have 2.??

Mike Tisdale

On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:43:47 AM PDT, Andy Smith <andysmith22@...> wrote:


I know I'm grave digging a bit here but I found it fitting that the day after this was posted I saw a SP GP on a commuter train on a twitter account I follow, ment this whole time to bring it up. It wasn't a 9 but close enough I could picture a 9 doing so.?

Andy Smith