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Re: Book Page Counts
开云体育Dave, ? I’m also a born and raised New Yorker (Brooklyn and Queens).? I never thought much of the “I love NY” slogan, because I couldn’t see the point.? Another slogan, “If you see something, say something,” is much more useful these days.? It originated with the NY MTA, which runs the subways, buses, and many commuter rail lines. (rail content for this paragraph.)? I have even seen that slogan used in the American Airlines terminals at Dallas-Fort Worth Airport, with credit to the MTA. ? I get to NY fairly often.? I carry a Metrocard in my wallet, and I like to take the Airtrain from JFK Airport to Jamaica Station, and then the LIRR in to Manhattan. ? The book topic interests me also, but not $112 worth and certainly not $250 worth.? There are so many good rail books out there, I’ll never read them all in my lifetime. ? Phil Burton ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 11:04 AM To: [email protected]; ObservationCar@... Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] Book Page Counts ? Phil, greetings, again. "Silver Rails Through the Heart of the Park" is the title, published by the NYCSHS.? The price through Ron's Books is $112.00, postage free.? The USPS Media Mail rate is probably still only $6, which is ludicrous, given the weight of this thing. Keep in mind that this is 800 pages on coated stock! It is heavy, which is part of what makes it so unwieldy. You can also order a signed copy through NYCSHS for $250, in a slipcase.? I have no idea why someone would want such a thing, or even why the society thought that this would be worth offering.? The use of a large bright pinkish-red heart on the cover and repeated inside is, I can only assume, meant to be somehow a play on the I Love New York campaign of many decades.? That may be the concept for the book's title and the use, therefore, of the heart.? As a New Yorker originally, I've always found that campaign slogan to be childish and rather silly, but that's just one opinion. What gets me about all of this is that I really am interested in the subject and couldn't wait to see the book. Regards, Dave. Get ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Phil Burton <philip-b@...> ? Dave, ? What you are saying, I think, is that Metro-North has more historical awareness than say Caltrain.? Kudos to NJ Transit for its recent Heritage loco paint schemes.? But it’s not fiddle-faddle, it’s probably just a vain hope.? ? About the John Taibi book.? I couldn’t find it listed on Amazon, even though the same author has a lot of other rail books, mostly on east coast roads.? I was wondering when it was published and just how much it cost to buy, and to ship. ? Phil Burton ? From: [email protected] [mailto:ObservationCar@...] ? Okay, let's get serious.? Enough about the Black Widow fiddle-faddle, you wild optimists.? We had New York Central lightning stripes on Metro North FL9s and on E8s, so us East Coast types have died and gone to heaven. Now, here's a question:? how much is too much? For those of us who are New York Central fans, and especially those who marvel at the concept of a railroad straight through the Adirondack Park, we are now twice blessed.? John Ham produced a book of incredible black and white photographs of the NYC's Adirondack Division.? Now, just a couple of years later, John Taibi has disgorged his own tome on said division with both b/w and color content. Where's the problem? Is 800 pages too much to bear? That's the page count for the Taibi book. I am a reasonably healthy male with full use of arms and hands.? YOU try reading this boat anchor! It is not bedtime reading.? It is not favorite easy chair reading.? This thing ought to be read when flat on a table, so as to not tire arms or the binding. I wonder if the binding will survive the handling required to even attempt one reading.? There is no indication of where it was printed, or by whom, that I can find, and the binding and boards appear to be sturdy -- for now.? Unlike many of the recently-produced books printed in China, it does not appear to have skimpy boards that are too thin to survive a good long life. Why not split such a project into a two-volume set, if there is not to be any rational editing? Even as a lifelong New York Central fan, I can see that I have no hope of ever getting through this book even once, even if I did find 80 pages of section houses to be just absolutely fascinating. In addition, even given the massive page count, I find that there are many, many photographs that could have been much larger.? There is no question that these medium format images would have stood up to half- or full-page rendering.? All told, odd decisions seem to have been made in editing and layout, in that respect. Opinions? Dave Saums Amesbury MA ? __._,_.___
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Re: Book Page Counts
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Phil, greetings, again.
"Silver Rails Through the Heart of the Park" is the title, published by the NYCSHS.? The price through Ron's Books is $112.00, postage free.? The USPS Media Mail rate is probably still only $6, which is ludicrous, given the weight of this thing.
Keep in mind that this is 800 pages on coated stock! It is heavy, which is part of what makes it so unwieldy.
You can also order a signed copy through NYCSHS for $250, in a slipcase.? I have no idea why someone would want such a thing, or even why the society thought that this would be worth offering.?
The use of a large bright pinkish-red heart on the cover and repeated inside is, I can only assume, meant to be somehow a play on the I Love New York campaign of many decades.? That may be the concept for the book's title and the use, therefore, of the heart.?
As a New Yorker originally, I've always found that campaign slogan to be childish and rather silly, but that's just one opinion.
What gets me about all of this is that I really am interested in the subject and couldn't wait to see the book.
Regards,
Dave.
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Dave, ? What you are saying, I think, is that Metro-North has more historical awareness than say Caltrain.? Kudos to NJ Transit for its recent Heritage loco paint schemes.? But it’s not fiddle-faddle, it’s probably just a vain hope.? ? About the John Taibi book.? I couldn’t find it listed on Amazon, even though the same author has a lot of other rail books, mostly on east coast roads.? I was wondering when it was published and just how much it cost to buy, and to ship. ? Phil Burton ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
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Okay, let's get serious.? Enough about the Black Widow fiddle-faddle, you wild optimists.? We had New York Central lightning stripes on Metro North FL9s and on E8s, so us East Coast types have died and gone to heaven. Now, here's a question:? how much is too much? For those of us who are New York Central fans, and especially those who marvel at the concept of a railroad straight through the Adirondack Park, we are now twice blessed.? John Ham produced a book of incredible black and white photographs of the NYC's Adirondack Division.? Now, just a couple of years later, John Taibi has disgorged his own tome on said division with both b/w and color content. Where's the problem? Is 800 pages too much to bear? That's the page count for the Taibi book. I am a reasonably healthy male with full use of arms and hands.? YOU try reading this boat anchor! It is not bedtime reading.? It is not favorite easy chair reading.? This thing ought to be read when flat on a table, so as to not tire arms or the binding. I wonder if the binding will survive the handling required to even attempt one reading.? There is no indication of where it was printed, or by whom, that I can find, and the binding and boards appear to be sturdy -- for now.? Unlike many of the recently-produced books printed in China, it does not appear to have skimpy boards that are too thin to survive a good long life. Why not split such a project into a two-volume set, if there is not to be any rational editing? Even as a lifelong New York Central fan, I can see that I have no hope of ever getting through this book even once, even if I did find 80 pages of section houses to be just absolutely fascinating. In addition, even given the massive page count, I find that there are many, many photographs that could have been much larger.? There is no question that these medium format images would have stood up to half- or full-page rendering.? All told, odd decisions seem to have been made in editing and layout, in that respect. Opinions? Dave Saums Amesbury MA ?
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开云体育Dave, ? What you are saying, I think, is that Metro-North has more historical awareness than say Caltrain.? Kudos to NJ Transit for its recent Heritage loco paint schemes.? But it’s not fiddle-faddle, it’s probably just a vain hope.? ? About the John Taibi book.? I couldn’t find it listed on Amazon, even though the same author has a lot of other rail books, mostly on east coast roads.? I was wondering when it was published and just how much it cost to buy, and to ship. ? Phil Burton ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:56 PM To: [email protected]; Observation Car <observationcar@...> Subject: [ObservationCar] Book Page Counts ? Okay, let's get serious.? Enough about the Black Widow fiddle-faddle, you wild optimists.? We had New York Central lightning stripes on Metro North FL9s and on E8s, so us East Coast types have died and gone to heaven. Now, here's a question:? how much is too much? For those of us who are New York Central fans, and especially those who marvel at the concept of a railroad straight through the Adirondack Park, we are now twice blessed.? John Ham produced a book of incredible black and white photographs of the NYC's Adirondack Division.? Now, just a couple of years later, John Taibi has disgorged his own tome on said division with both b/w and color content. Where's the problem? Is 800 pages too much to bear? That's the page count for the Taibi book. I am a reasonably healthy male with full use of arms and hands.? YOU try reading this boat anchor! It is not bedtime reading.? It is not favorite easy chair reading.? This thing ought to be read when flat on a table, so as to not tire arms or the binding. I wonder if the binding will survive the handling required to even attempt one reading.? There is no indication of where it was printed, or by whom, that I can find, and the binding and boards appear to be sturdy -- for now.? Unlike many of the recently-produced books printed in China, it does not appear to have skimpy boards that are too thin to survive a good long life. Why not split such a project into a two-volume set, if there is not to be any rational editing? Even as a lifelong New York Central fan, I can see that I have no hope of ever getting through this book even once, even if I did find 80 pages of section houses to be just absolutely fascinating. In addition, even given the massive page count, I find that there are many, many photographs that could have been much larger.? There is no question that these medium format images would have stood up to half- or full-page rendering.? All told, odd decisions seem to have been made in editing and layout, in that respect. Opinions? Dave Saums Amesbury MA ? __._,_.___
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开云体育Mike, ? That is one beautiful SD9.? ? I sure miss the old SP from the time that they ran the SF-SJ commuter service.? I guess it’s too much for Caltrain to paint some engines and passenger cars in SP colors.? Connecticut DOT paints some of their passenger diesel units in New Haven colors.? Just saying. ? Phil ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 3:26 PM To: [email protected]; Observation Car <observationcar@...> Subject: [ObservationCar] Rainy Day SD9 for Tuesday ? SD9 SP 5399 takes an Albany and Eastern excursion train back to the yard in Lebanon, Oregon after a pre-Winterail trip in March 2017.?? ? ?
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