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Re: More Indian Steam for Sunday [1 Attachment]
Thank you, Vic. Like The Major General,? ...my military (and IR) knowledge, though I'm plucky and adventury Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century; Mike Tisdale
On Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 03:49:01 AM PST, Vic Lines VicLines@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
Hi Mike, There are many more railway zones now then when you visited, hardly surprising as the network is a lot busier now with many more trains and additional routes everywhere. ? Wikipedia is showing 18 zones (I think there's one missing: the Konkan Railway, which is the route which opened from Mumbai to Goa in the late 1990s). ?Some of the statistics are eye watering: Central Railway operating out of Mumbai and includes a good chunk of the suburban EMU traffic carried 1675 million passengers in 2011/2! ? The railway with the largest turnover is shown as the South Coast Railway, which I think is mainly due to the heavy coal and iron ore traffic. Liveries: The Alcos tend to be painted in shed colours, but the EMDs (and now GEs) are by and large in the same livery. ?Gooty Depot's "Kingfisher" livery is one of my all time favourite paint schemes:- Closely followed by Golden Rock livery:- ? Some of the other depots efforts are poor in comparison. ?Tuglakhabad's Alcos look like they've been painted with a yard brush by a blind man! Vic Lines England
On Sunday, 16 February 2020, 22:37:28 GMT, Mike Tisdale tisdalem2001@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
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Hi Phil, The steam paint schemes aren't the same as the diesel and electric schemes, but from what I see on line of Indian locomotives today, different sheds and regions still have their own ways of painting locomotives.? If you go to Railpictures.net and search for India in the country category, you will see some of the rainbow of locomotives paint jobs that you can see there.? Probably more variety in paint schemes that we have on main line railroads in the US. The diesels are mostly a mix of Indian made Alco and EMD models, many with bodies not to be found elsewhere. Mike Tisdale
On Sunday, February 16, 2020, 10:52:42 AM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
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Mike, ? This helps.? Do you have any idea if Indian Railways still uses these paint schemes?? The idea that Sri Lankan locomotives are painted according to the colors of the ruling political party, that¡¯s weird. ? Phil ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:59 AM To: [email protected]; 'Observation Car' <observationcar@...>; ObservationCar@... Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] More Indian Steam for Sunday ? Hi Phil, ? The Indian Railways are divided into geographic regions..? Off the top of my head, I can think of Northern, Western, Northeast Frontier, Central, South Central, and Southern.? I'm probably missing some and there might be some more since in the last 40 years.? Steam engines had their regional railway lettered on their tenders or side tanks, often in Roman letters on one side and Hindi (or possibly another local language) letters on the other.? If the railway was one word, the letters were ER, SR, WR, etc.? Two words resulted in NF or SC.?? ? Diesels and electrics seem to lettered Indian Railways, but then have the livery of their assigned loco shed.? Steam engines tended to be painted for their region.? Passenger engines often got more colorful livery than freight, however the SC meter gauge engines in Hyderabad/Secunderabad were both colorful, with the 2-8-2s in 2 tone blue and the 4-6-2s in red and green.?? ? Oddly enough, those paint schemes are used by some diesels in Sri Lanka, where, I understand they represent the colors of the ruling party when the engines were delivered.? So, the 2 tone blue Sri Lankan M2 and M4 diesels were delivered are the colors of one party and the red and green on the M6 and W1 & W2 diesels represent the other major party.? ? Go figure. ? Hope this helps, ? Mike Tisdale ? On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 02:18:59 PM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote: ? ? ? Mike, ? In your earlier photos from 40 years ago in India, the engines had ¡°ER¡± on the tenders.? In these photos, the lettering is ¡°SC.¡±? Do you know (remember?) what these letters represented? ? Phil ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via Groups.Io ? Continuing with my 40 years ago theme, a ride behind a WP 4-6-2 and then another shed bash. ? ?
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Re: More Indian Steam for Sunday
Hi Mike, There are many more railway zones now then when you visited, hardly surprising as the network is a lot busier now with many more trains and additional routes everywhere. ? Wikipedia is showing 18 zones (I think there's one missing: the Konkan Railway, which is the route which opened from Mumbai to Goa in the late 1990s). ?Some of the statistics are eye watering: Central Railway operating out of Mumbai and includes a good chunk of the suburban EMU traffic carried 1675 million passengers in 2011/2! ? The railway with the largest turnover is shown as the South Coast Railway, which I think is mainly due to the heavy coal and iron ore traffic. Liveries: The Alcos tend to be painted in shed colours, but the EMDs (and now GEs) are by and large in the same livery. ?Gooty Depot's "Kingfisher" livery is one of my all time favourite paint schemes:- Closely followed by Golden Rock livery:- ? Some of the other depots efforts are poor in comparison. ?Tuglakhabad's Alcos look like they've been painted with a yard brush by a blind man! Vic Lines England
On Sunday, 16 February 2020, 22:37:28 GMT, Mike Tisdale tisdalem2001@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
Hi Phil, The steam paint schemes aren't the same as the diesel and electric schemes, but from what I see on line of Indian locomotives today, different sheds and regions still have their own ways of painting locomotives.? If you go to Railpictures.net and search for India in the country category, you will see some of the rainbow of locomotives paint jobs that you can see there.? Probably more variety in paint schemes that we have on main line railroads in the US. The diesels are mostly a mix of Indian made Alco and EMD models, many with bodies not to be found elsewhere. Mike Tisdale
On Sunday, February 16, 2020, 10:52:42 AM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
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Mike, ? This helps.? Do you have any idea if Indian Railways still uses these paint schemes?? The idea that Sri Lankan locomotives are painted according to the colors of the ruling political party, that¡¯s weird. ? Phil ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:59 AM To: [email protected]; 'Observation Car' <observationcar@...>; ObservationCar@... Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] More Indian Steam for Sunday ? Hi Phil, ? The Indian Railways are divided into geographic regions.? Off the top of my head, I can think of Northern, Western, Northeast Frontier, Central, South Central, and Southern.? I'm probably missing some and there might be some more since in the last 40 years.? Steam engines had their regional railway lettered on their tenders or side tanks, often in Roman letters on one side and Hindi (or possibly another local language) letters on the other.? If the railway was one word, the letters were ER, SR, WR, etc.? Two words resulted in NF or SC.?? ? Diesels and electrics seem to lettered Indian Railways, but then have the livery of their assigned loco shed.? Steam engines tended to be painted for their region.? Passenger engines often got more colorful livery than freight, however the SC meter gauge engines in Hyderabad/Secunderabad were both colorful, with the 2-8-2s in 2 tone blue and the 4-6-2s in red and green.?? ? Oddly enough, those paint schemes are used by some diesels in Sri Lanka, where, I understand they represent the colors of the ruling party when the engines were delivered.? So, the 2 tone blue Sri Lankan M2 and M4 diesels were delivered are the colors of one party and the red and green on the M6 and W1 & W2 diesels represent the other major party.? ? Go figure. ? Hope this helps, ? Mike Tisdale ? On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 02:18:59 PM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote: ? ? ? Mike, ? In your earlier photos from 40 years ago in India, the engines had ¡°ER¡± on the tenders.? In these photos, the lettering is ¡°SC.¡±? Do you know (remember?) what these letters represented? ? Phil ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via Groups.Io ? Continuing with my 40 years ago theme, a ride behind a WP 4-6-2 and then another shed bash. ? ?
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Re: More Indian Steam for Sunday
Hi Phil, The steam paint schemes aren't the same as the diesel and electric schemes, but from what I see on line of Indian locomotives today, different sheds and regions still have their own ways of painting locomotives.? If you go to Railpictures.net and search for India in the country category, you will see some of the rainbow of locomotives paint jobs that you can see there.? Probably more variety in paint schemes that we have on main line railroads in the US. The diesels are mostly a mix of Indian made Alco and EMD models, many with bodies not to be found elsewhere. Mike Tisdale
On Sunday, February 16, 2020, 10:52:42 AM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
Mike, ? This helps.? Do you have any idea if Indian Railways still uses these paint schemes?? The idea that Sri Lankan locomotives are painted according to the colors of the ruling political party, that¡¯s weird. ? Phil ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:59 AM To: [email protected]; 'Observation Car' <observationcar@...>; ObservationCar@... Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] More Indian Steam for Sunday ? Hi Phil, ? The Indian Railways are divided into geographic regions.? Off the top of my head, I can think of Northern, Western, Northeast Frontier, Central, South Central, and Southern.? I'm probably missing some and there might be some more since in the last 40 years.? Steam engines had their regional railway lettered on their tenders or side tanks, often in Roman letters on one side and Hindi (or possibly another local language) letters on the other.? If the railway was one word, the letters were ER, SR, WR, etc.? Two words resulted in NF or SC.?? ? Diesels and electrics seem to lettered Indian Railways, but then have the livery of their assigned loco shed.? Steam engines tended to be painted for their region.? Passenger engines often got more colorful livery than freight, however the SC meter gauge engines in Hyderabad/Secunderabad were both colorful, with the 2-8-2s in 2 tone blue and the 4-6-2s in red and green.?? ? Oddly enough, those paint schemes are used by some diesels in Sri Lanka, where, I understand they represent the colors of the ruling party when the engines were delivered.? So, the 2 tone blue Sri Lankan M2 and M4 diesels were delivered are the colors of one party and the red and green on the M6 and W1 & W2 diesels represent the other major party.? ? Go figure. ? Hope this helps, ? Mike Tisdale ? On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 02:18:59 PM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote: ? ? ? Mike, ? In your earlier photos from 40 years ago in India, the engines had ¡°ER¡± on the tenders.? In these photos, the lettering is ¡°SC.¡±? Do you know (remember?) what these letters represented? ? Phil ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via Groups.Io ? Continuing with my 40 years ago theme, a ride behind a WP 4-6-2 and then another shed bash. ? ?
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Re: More Indian Steam for Sunday
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMike, ? This helps.? Do you have any idea if Indian Railways still uses these paint schemes?? The idea that Sri Lankan locomotives are painted according to the colors of the ruling political party, that¡¯s weird. ? Phil ? From: ObservationCar@... [mailto:ObservationCar@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:59 AM To: [email protected]; 'Observation Car' <observationcar@...>; ObservationCar@... Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] More Indian Steam for Sunday ? Hi Phil, ? The Indian Railways are divided into geographic regions.? Off the top of my head, I can think of Northern, Western, Northeast Frontier, Central, South Central, and Southern.? I'm probably missing some and there might be some more since in the last 40 years.? Steam engines had their regional railway lettered on their tenders or side tanks, often in Roman letters on one side and Hindi (or possibly another local language) letters on the other.? If the railway was one word, the letters were ER, SR, WR, etc.? Two words resulted in NF or SC.?? ? Diesels and electrics seem to lettered Indian Railways, but then have the livery of their assigned loco shed.? Steam engines tended to be painted for their region.? Passenger engines often got more colorful livery than freight, however the SC meter gauge engines in Hyderabad/Secunderabad were both colorful, with the 2-8-2s in 2 tone blue and the 4-6-2s in red and green.?? ? Oddly enough, those paint schemes are used by some diesels in Sri Lanka, where, I understand they represent the colors of the ruling party when the engines were delivered.? So, the 2 tone blue Sri Lankan M2 and M4 diesels were delivered are the colors of one party and the red and green on the M6 and W1 & W2 diesels represent the other major party.? ? Go figure. ? Hope this helps, ? Mike Tisdale ? On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 02:18:59 PM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote: ? ? ? Mike, ? In your earlier photos from 40 years ago in India, the engines had ¡°ER¡± on the tenders.? In these photos, the lettering is ¡°SC.¡±? Do you know (remember?) what these letters represented? ? Phil ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via Groups.Io ? Continuing with my 40 years ago theme, a ride behind a WP 4-6-2 and then another shed bash. ? ?
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Re: More Indian Steam for Sunday
Hi Phil, The Indian Railways are divided into geographic regions.? Off the top of my head, I can think of Northern, Western, Northeast Frontier, Central, South Central, and Southern.? I'm probably missing some and there might be some more since in the last 40 years.? Steam engines had their regional railway lettered on their tenders or side tanks, often in Roman letters on one side and Hindi (or possibly another local language) letters on the other.? If the railway was one word, the letters were ER, SR, WR, etc.? Two words resulted in NF or SC.?? Diesels and electrics seem to lettered Indian Railways, but then have the livery of their assigned loco shed.? Steam engines tended to be painted for their region.? Passenger engines often got more colorful livery than freight, however the SC meter gauge engines in Hyderabad/Secunderabad were both colorful, with the 2-8-2s in 2 tone blue and the 4-6-2s in red and green.?? Oddly enough, those paint schemes are used by some diesels in Sri Lanka, where, I understand they represent the colors of the ruling party when the engines were delivered.? So, the 2 tone blue Sri Lankan M2 and M4 diesels were delivered are the colors of one party and the red and green on the M6 and W1 & W2 diesels represent the other major party.? Go figure. Hope this helps, Mike Tisdale
On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 02:18:59 PM PST, 'Phil Burton' philip-b@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
Mike, ? In your earlier photos from 40 years ago in India, the engines had ¡°ER¡± on the tenders.? In these photos, the lettering is ¡°SC.¡±? Do you know (remember?) what these letters represented? ? Phil ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:17 AM To: [email protected]; Observation Car <observationcar@...> Subject: [ObservationCar] More Indian Steam for Sunday ? Continuing with my 40 years ago theme, a ride behind a WP 4-6-2 and then another shed bash. ? ?
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Re: More Indian Steam for Sunday
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMike, ? In your earlier photos from 40 years ago in India, the engines had ¡°ER¡± on the tenders.? In these photos, the lettering is ¡°SC.¡±? Do you know (remember?) what these letters represented? ? Phil ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:17 AM To: [email protected]; Observation Car <observationcar@...> Subject: [ObservationCar] More Indian Steam for Sunday ? Continuing with my 40 years ago theme, a ride behind a WP 4-6-2 and then another shed bash. ? ?
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Re: Sierra Saturday
The Sierra is a real treasure, MIke, and posting these reminds me that I've not been there in a while.? I need to get back to Jamestown. Mike Tisdale
On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 07:45:15 AM PST, matejka53@... [ObservationCar] <observationcar@...> wrote:
??? ??? always a great place to visit - a real treasure
Mike Matejka
Normal IL
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Tisdale tisdalem2001@... [ObservationCar] <ObservationCar@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Observation Car <observationcar@...> Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2020 12:44 am Subject: [ObservationCar] Sierra Saturday
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Views of the Sierra Railraod in the 1970s
Mike Tisdale
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