Re: New Field Day Site

Jeff Otterson

Hmmm...  Does this mean the keg is out?

Jeff

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At 02:22 PM 5/3/2004, you wrote:

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We had a group of about 10 folks visit the Paulding Meadows site Saturday, and I wanted to share the results with the larger N4N group.  The park has a number of favorable things that are fairly comparable to the previous site at Mr. Fuller's farm, including relatively high ground with unobstructed views to the north and west (if we set up on the ridge), a lot of wide open grassy area to set up towers, and lots of tall trees for wire antennas.  The new site also offers the following advantages over the previous site:
   * Several covered pavilions with AC power, lights, and, in some cases, even ceiling fans!  The pavilions are in a nice shady spot that will give some relief from the hot June sun
   * A large restroom facility with hot and cold running water
   * Lots of picnic benches that we can use for meals, assembling gear, etc (and maybe for a couple of operating positions)
   * We can gather those last few bonus point categories for setting up in a public place, and having an info booth.  We may also be able (through the PARC folks) to arrange visits by elected officials and served agencies, as we're only a mile and a half from downtown <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Dallas.
   * There will be no need for tree-trimming or grass mowing the Saturday before Field Day!  The only need the week before will be to finalize (and mark, if allowed) the specific location of towers, tents, generators, etc.  Even this would be optional, but it would help to know exactly where everything was going as we begin setup on Thursday.
There is a nice open space on the top of a ridge at about 900ft elevation.  Because the pavilions are down in a valley a few hundred feet away, we will probably need to set up most of the phone and CW stations in tents nearer the towers to avoid excessive runs of coax and rotor cables.  We may be able to set up a couple stations in a pavilion--probably GOTA and digital--with some beams that may be shadowed a bit by another hill to the north.  We should still be able to make several hundred contacts on each of those stations.  VHF/UHF folks will probably want to set up near the top of the hill--there's a good place near the restroom building that offers high ground and hopefully a reasonable AC extension cord run to the generators.

There are a couple disadvantages.  We will have a bit of a challenge in needing to limit access to the antenna farm.  Since the park is reserved we should be able to block off areas or roads to vehicle traffic, and hopefully channel visitors to the GOTA station/info booth.  With some yellow flagging and maybe some chemical lights we can mark the area off pretty well.  We also will probably need to keep someone at the site the entire time (Thursday through Sunday) to watch over things--a couple of us may have to miss the Friday dinner.

So, weighing all this, our consensus was that we should move the Field Day operation to Paulding Meadows.  It offers about the same capabilities in terms of radio operations, but adds a number of creature comforts that can go a long way to making this an even more enjoyable event!

Now is the time for everyone to weigh in!  If you have strong feelings about either site, let the group know.  If no objections are heard, we'll begin the process of adapting "the plan" to the new site.

Think Field Day!
Dave KE4UW


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New Field Day Site

Moss, Dave J $INPO$

#282

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QRZ FD DE N4N!

We had a group of about 10 folks visit the Paulding Meadows site Saturday, and I wanted to share the results with the larger N4N group.? The park has a number of favorable things?that are fairly comparable to the previous site at Mr. Fuller's farm, including relatively high ground with unobstructed views to the north and west (if we set up on the ridge), a lot of wide open grassy area to set up towers, and lots of tall trees for wire antennas.? The new site also offers the?following advantages over?the previous site:

Several?covered pavilions with AC power, lights,?and, in some cases,?even ceiling fans!? The pavilions are in a nice shady spot that will give some relief from the hot June sun?
A large restroom facility with hot and cold running water
Lots of picnic benches that we can use for meals, assembling gear, etc (and maybe for a couple of operating positions)
We can gather those last few bonus point categories for setting up in a public place, and having an info booth.? We may also be able (through the PARC folks) to arrange visits by elected officials and served agencies, as we're only a mile and a half from downtown Dallas.
There will be no need for tree-trimming or grass mowing the?Saturday before Field Day!? The only need the week before will be?to finalize (and mark, if allowed) the specific location of towers, tents, generators, etc.? Even this would be optional, but it would help to know exactly where everything was going as we begin setup on?Thursday.?

There is a nice open space on the top of a ridge at about 900ft elevation.? Because the pavilions are down in a valley a few hundred feet away, we will probably need to set up most of the phone and CW stations in tents nearer the towers to avoid excessive runs of coax and rotor cables.? We may?be able to set up a couple stations in a pavilion--probably GOTA and digital--with some beams that may be shadowed a bit by another hill to the north.? We should still be able to make several hundred contacts on each of those stations.? VHF/UHF folks will probably want to set up near the top of the hill--there's a good place near the restroom building that offers high ground and hopefully a reasonable AC extension cord run to the generators.?

There are a couple disadvantages.? We will have a bit of a challenge in needing to limit access to the antenna farm.? Since the park is reserved we should be able to block off areas or roads to vehicle traffic, and hopefully channel visitors to the GOTA station/info booth.? With some yellow flagging and maybe some chemical lights we can mark the area off pretty well.? We also will probably need to keep someone?at the site the entire time (Thursday through Sunday) to watch over things--a couple of us may have to miss the?Friday dinner.?

So, weighing all this, our consensus was that we should move the Field Day operation to Paulding Meadows.? It offers about the same capabilities in terms of radio operations, but adds a number of creature comforts that can go a long way to making this an even more enjoyable event!

Now is the time for everyone to weigh in!? If you have strong feelings about either site, let the group know.? If no objections are heard, we'll begin the process of adapting "the plan" to the new site.

Think Field Day!

Dave KE4UW

Re: 2 elements on 40!!

#281

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Jim, you da man!

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Dave

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-----Original Message-----
From: james.nail@... [mailto:james.nail@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 8:31 PM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] 2 elements on 40!!

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We now have 2 elements on 40.? All we need is a rotatable stacked array fixed on EU.? oops wrong contest.

?

Jim WA2MBP

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James B. Nail

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Hackler [mailto:rhackler@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 9:20 AM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: RE: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

Jim:

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We are planning on meeting there at 3:00 PM EDT, 19:00 GMT

-----Original Message-----
From: james.nail@... [mailto:james.nail@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 09:07
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: RE: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

QRZed FD!? What time is everyone heading out to the park?? Anyone find a 2m repeater we can talk in on?

?

Jimmie the Nail? WA2MBP? qrz

?

James B. Nail

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Moss [mailto:mossdj@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:36 AM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park
Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this
year's N4N Field Day operation.? It has several advantages--
especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC
power.? We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could
place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get
tangled in the guys or extension cords.

I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.? I'll be on 147.105
on the trip out.? Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good
repeater to meet on in Dallas.? My apologies, but I only saw a 220
repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car.

Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy:

Park Info:
It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North
of the courthouse in Dallas.

Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:?

The official address is
Paulding Meadows
Veterans Memorial Park
724 Paulding Meadows Dr.
Dallas, GA 30132

2 elements on 40!!

[email protected]

#280

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We now have 2 elements on 40.? All we need is a rotatable stacked array fixed on EU.? oops wrong contest.

?

Jim WA2MBP

?

James B. Nail

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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Hackler [mailto:rhackler@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 9:20 AM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: RE: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

Jim:

?

We are planning on meeting there at 3:00 PM EDT, 19:00 GMT

-----Original Message-----
From: james.nail@... [mailto:james.nail@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 09:07
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: RE: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

QRZed FD!? What time is everyone heading out to the park?? Anyone find a 2m repeater we can talk in on?

?

Jimmie the Nail? WA2MBP? qrz

?

James B. Nail

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Moss [mailto:mossdj@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:36 AM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

N4N de KE4UW, Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this year's N4N Field Day operation.? It has several advantages-- especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC power.? We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get tangled in the guys or extension cords. I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.? I'll be on 147.105 on the trip out.? Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good repeater to meet on in Dallas.? My apologies, but I only saw a 220 repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car. Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy: Park Info: It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North of the courthouse in Dallas. Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:? The official address is Paulding Meadows Veterans Memorial Park 724 Paulding Meadows Dr. Dallas, GA 30132

Re: Saturday Field Trip

Roger Hackler

#279

Vester:

I've got the press releases handled.  I have a friend that's an editor and
she helps us out with that every year.  Hmmmm, CNN coverage this year????

We have to remember that repeater contacts are illegal during FD.  The new
FD packet is available on the ARRL website.

All of the direct VHF/UHF contacts we can muster up is a good thing.

Great website!

Don't blame you on avoiding the 120 mile Round trip.  Stay tuned for more on
the reflector.

73 De KN6RO

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-----Original Message-----
From: vesterscott [mailto:vesterscott@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 09:38
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] Re: Saturday Field Trip

I'm gonna skip this 120+ mile round trip today, trust whatever you
guys come up with, and save my gas money for the real thing.

Any plans for something like this?:

(Back off to  and there's some other neat
stuff there, as well).

Also, is there any interest in making prior agreements with other
Field Day sites for both repeater communication and direct,
dedicated vhf or uhf simplex communication with them? It would show
visitors that we are coordinated, and ready to work together, even
if Osama takes out all of the repeaters. Maybe a VoIP demo would be
good, too, if possible.

I know we talked earlier about 900, and I'll make sure that happens.

Write up something in advance, invite the press, and you'll probably
see it in your local papers afterwards. And in the SERA Repeater
Journal, if repeaters are spotlighted.

Maybe public awareness/interest is just as (okay, ALMOST as
important as) points?

73,

Vester N8EKA

--- In n4n_field_day@..., "Dave Moss" <mossdj@i...>
wrote:
N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park
Saturday afternoon...

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Re: Saturday Field Trip

vesterscott

#278

I'm gonna skip this 120+ mile round trip today, trust whatever you 
guys come up with, and save my gas money for the real thing.

Any plans for something like this?:

(Back off to  and there's some other neat 
stuff there, as well).

Also, is there any interest in making prior agreements with other 
Field Day sites for both repeater communication and direct, 
dedicated vhf or uhf simplex communication with them? It would show 
visitors that we are coordinated, and ready to work together, even 
if Osama takes out all of the repeaters. Maybe a VoIP demo would be 
good, too, if possible. 

I know we talked earlier about 900, and I'll make sure that happens.

Write up something in advance, invite the press, and you'll probably 
see it in your local papers afterwards. And in the SERA Repeater 
Journal, if repeaters are spotlighted.

Maybe public awareness/interest is just as (okay, ALMOST as 
important as) points?

73,

Vester N8EKA

--- In n4n_field_day@..., "Dave Moss" <mossdj@i...> 
wrote:
N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park 
Saturday afternoon...

Re: Saturday Field Trip

Roger Hackler

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Jim:

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You've got the book, I hope??????? I haven't used the radio in over a year so I can't remember.

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-----Original Message-----
From: james.nail@... [mailto:james.nail@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 09:09
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: RE: [n4n_field_day] Re: Saturday Field Trip

?

Roger,

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How do I setup your radio to do this 146.895+ PL77 !@#$% huh?

?

Jim

James B. Nail

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy [mailto:ncronin@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:55 PM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] Re: Saturday Field Trip

The PARC repeater is 146.895+ PL77 owned by WD4LUQ. Enjoy, KG4IUL --- In n4n_field_day@..., "Dave Moss" <mossdj@i...> wrote: > N4N de KE4UW, > > Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park > ... > Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good > repeater to meet on in Dallas.?

Re: Saturday Field Trip

Roger Hackler

#276

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Jim:

?

We are planning on meeting there at 3:00 PM EDT, 19:00 GMT

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-----Original Message-----
From: james.nail@... [mailto:james.nail@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 09:07
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: RE: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

QRZed FD!? What time is everyone heading out to the park?? Anyone find a 2m repeater we can talk in on?

?

Jimmie the Nail? WA2MBP? qrz

?

James B. Nail

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Moss [mailto:mossdj@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:36 AM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

N4N de KE4UW, Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this year's N4N Field Day operation.? It has several advantages-- especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC power.? We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get tangled in the guys or extension cords. I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.? I'll be on 147.105 on the trip out.? Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good repeater to meet on in Dallas.? My apologies, but I only saw a 220 repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car. Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy: Park Info: It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North of the courthouse in Dallas. Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:? The official address is Paulding Meadows Veterans Memorial Park 724 Paulding Meadows Dr. Dallas, GA 30132

Re: Saturday Field Trip

[email protected]

#275

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Roger,

?

How do I setup your radio to do this 146.895+ PL77 !@#$% huh?

?

Jim

James B. Nail

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-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy [mailto:ncronin@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:55 PM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] Re: Saturday Field Trip

The PARC repeater is 146.895+ PL77 owned by WD4LUQ. Enjoy, KG4IUL --- In n4n_field_day@..., "Dave Moss" wrote: > N4N de KE4UW, > > Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park > ... > Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good > repeater to meet on in Dallas.?

Re: Saturday Field Trip

[email protected]

#274

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QRZed FD!? What time is everyone heading out to the park?? Anyone find a 2m repeater we can talk in on?

?

Jimmie the Nail? WA2MBP? qrz

?

James B. Nail

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Moss [mailto:mossdj@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:36 AM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

N4N de KE4UW, Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this year's N4N Field Day operation.? It has several advantages-- especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC power.? We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get tangled in the guys or extension cords. I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.? I'll be on 147.105 on the trip out.? Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good repeater to meet on in Dallas.? My apologies, but I only saw a 220 repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car. Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy: Park Info: It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North of the courthouse in Dallas. Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:? The official address is Paulding Meadows Veterans Memorial Park 724 Paulding Meadows Dr. Dallas, GA 30132

Re: Saturday Field Trip

#273

Hi Al,  

I'll see you there.  I'll be driving a tan GMC pickup with an American
flag on the tailgate.

Dave KE4UW

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert A. Martin [mailto:ramman1@...] 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:20 PM
To: n4n_field_day@...
Subject: Re: [n4n_field_day] Saturday Field Trip

Hi Dave,
	My name is Al Martin and I plan on meeting everyone at Paulding
Meadows
at 3:00 p.m. . There is a 2 meter repeater in Dallas on 146.895 with a
plus offset, but I can't remember if there is a PL tone or not. At any
rate, I don't have my radio in my car, so I won't be able to talk
anyway.
But, I will look for you guys there. I will be in a Cranberry color
Saturn Ion 4 door. See you there.

73'z,

Al Martin

KF4RPQ

N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park 
Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this 
year's N4N Field Day operation.  It has several advantages--
especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC 
power.  We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could 
place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get 
tangled in the guys or extension cords.

I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.  I'll be on 147.105 
on the trip out.  Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good 
repeater to meet on in Dallas.  My apologies, but I only saw a 220 
repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car.

Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy:

Park Info:
It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North 
of the courthouse in Dallas.

Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:  

The official address is 
Paulding Meadows
Veterans Memorial Park
724 Paulding Meadows Dr.
Dallas, GA 30132

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Re: Saturday Field Trip

Robert A. Martin

#272

Hi Dave,
	My name is Al Martin and I plan on meeting everyone at Paulding Meadows
at 3:00 p.m. . There is a 2 meter repeater in Dallas on 146.895 with a
plus offset, but I can't remember if there is a PL tone or not. At any
rate, I don't have my radio in my car, so I won't be able to talk anyway.
But, I will look for you guys there. I will be in a Cranberry color
Saturn Ion 4 door. See you there.
																73'z,
																Al Martin
																KF4RPQ



N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park 
Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this 
year's N4N Field Day operation.  It has several advantages--
especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC 
power.  We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could 
place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get 
tangled in the guys or extension cords.

I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.  I'll be on 147.105 
on the trip out.  Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good 
repeater to meet on in Dallas.  My apologies, but I only saw a 220 
repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car.


Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy:

Park Info:
It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North 
of the courthouse in Dallas.

Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:  

 

The official address is 
Paulding Meadows
Veterans Memorial Park
724 Paulding Meadows Dr.
Dallas, GA 30132

________________________________________________________________
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Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Re: Saturday Field Trip

Nancy

#271

The PARC repeater is 146.895+ PL77 owned by WD4LUQ.

Enjoy,
KG4IUL


--- In n4n_field_day@..., "Dave Moss" <mossdj@i...> 
wrote:
N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park 
...
Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good 
repeater to meet on in Dallas.

Re: Saturday Field Trip

#270

Bad wknd for me as we volunteer 'Beer For Bunnies' at Music Midtown.

Gary - WB4SQ (Wire Bazookas, 4-Squares, Quads)

--- Dave Moss <mossdj@...> wrote:
N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park 
Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this 
year's N4N Field Day operation.  It has several advantages--
especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC 
power.  We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could 
place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get 
tangled in the guys or extension cords.

I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.  I'll be on 147.105 
on the trip out.  Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good 
repeater to meet on in Dallas.  My apologies, but I only saw a 220 
repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car.


Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy:

Park Info:
It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North 
of the courthouse in Dallas.

Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:  

 

The official address is 
Paulding Meadows
Veterans Memorial Park
724 Paulding Meadows Dr.
Dallas, GA 30132




	
		
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Saturday Field Trip

Dave Moss

#269

N4N de KE4UW,

Several of us are planning to visit the Paulding Meadows park 
Saturday afternoon to see how it would work as a site for this 
year's N4N Field Day operation.  It has several advantages--
especially having covered pavilions, restrooms, and lights/AC 
power.  We want to get a good idea of the layout and how we could 
place up to 8 towers/yagis, and do it safely so passers-by don't get 
tangled in the guys or extension cords.

I'll plan on being at the site at about 3:00pm.  I'll be on 147.105 
on the trip out.  Maybe some of the PARC folks can recommend a good 
repeater to meet on in Dallas.  My apologies, but I only saw a 220 
repeater on the PARC web site, and I don't have 220 in the car.


Directions to the park, courtesy of KG4IUL Nancy:

Park Info:
It's located on Northside Church Rd., West of GA 61, 1.7 miles North 
of the courthouse in Dallas.

Here's a map and directions courtesy of another event:  

 

The official address is 
Paulding Meadows
Veterans Memorial Park
724 Paulding Meadows Dr.
Dallas, GA 30132