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A really fast Gecko


 

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at 3,932 IPM.
Please go to:



Then pick 3900IPM.avi. Please download and save; view it from your
hard drive instead of selecting "open". This will save on bandwidth
and not irritate our webmaster.:-)

Video: 16 seconds, 1.234MB, 720 X 480 format, encoded using DivX 6.0,
no audio; had to remove it because I swore when I nearly got nicked
by the axis.

The average velocity is 51.4"/sec if accel/decel is included. The
velocity 65.535"/sec after accel, before decel. The motor is an MCG
IH230014 run in parallel at 3A/phase, 24VDC supply, PID closed-loop
on the G100 driving a stock-standard G201. The distance in each
direction is 20.000" Motor speed is 3,932.10 RPM, screw is 1"/turn,
well oiled to keep from overheating.:-)

Metric:

Avg velocity: 1.306 meters/sec. (7,836mm/min)
Peak velocity: 1.666 meters/sec. (10,000mm/min)
Distance: 0.508 meters in each direction.

I'll leave the video up one week, then I'll take it down. Enjoy.

Mariss


 

Mariss Freimanis wrote:

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here might be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at 3,932 IPM.
Please go to:


Great stuff Mariss , but I think at least we should of got the full gory version Swearing, Blood n all!

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Not so sure you want that:-)

In the previous run I had the G201 cranked up to 75VDC; the motor
develops 165W+ at that voltage. On the 1-TPI screw it developed 22lbs
(10kg) thrust at 10 meters/min.

It took a nice gouge out of my thumb, the kind it takes super-glue to
close up and stop the bleeding.

Furthermore I had a brick instead of the "action figure" as the load.
The brick was duct-taped to the stage; it flew off and destroyed my
PC keyboard upon the 2-G deceleration I had programmed.

I decided to play it safe one bloody thumb and and new keyboard later
when I ran the video. I hit the mouse key to start things and it darn
near took another bite out of me. Deleted cussing ensued.

Moral: Stay clear of fast-moving stuff unless you want to shed a
little unplanned blood.

Mariss



--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Wayne Weedon <wayne@...> wrote:

Mariss Freimanis wrote:

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here
might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at 3,932
IPM.
Please go to:



Great stuff Mariss , but I think at least we should of got the full
gory
version Swearing, Blood n all!

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
Wayne M Weedon Email: wayne@...
Fdos Design Poole UK
Tel +44-1202-677025 Fax +44-1202-770515 Mobile: 07774
439915

Specialists in small batch & Production Mechanical/Electrical
Engineering
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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nattyone960
 

Pretty violent R&D.


--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@...> wrote:

Not so sure you want that:-)

In the previous run I had the G201 cranked up to 75VDC; the motor
develops 165W+ at that voltage. On the 1-TPI screw it developed
22lbs
(10kg) thrust at 10 meters/min.

It took a nice gouge out of my thumb, the kind it takes super-glue
to
close up and stop the bleeding.

Furthermore I had a brick instead of the "action figure" as the
load.
The brick was duct-taped to the stage; it flew off and destroyed my
PC keyboard upon the 2-G deceleration I had programmed.

I decided to play it safe one bloody thumb and and new keyboard
later
when I ran the video. I hit the mouse key to start things and it
darn
near took another bite out of me. Deleted cussing ensued.

Moral: Stay clear of fast-moving stuff unless you want to shed a
little unplanned blood.

Mariss



--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Wayne Weedon <wayne@> wrote:

Mariss Freimanis wrote:

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here
might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at 3,932
IPM.
Please go to:



Great stuff Mariss , but I think at least we should of got the
full
gory
version Swearing, Blood n all!

--
------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-------
Wayne M Weedon Email: wayne@
Fdos Design Poole UK
Tel +44-1202-677025 Fax +44-1202-770515 Mobile: 07774
439915

Specialists in small batch & Production Mechanical/Electrical
Engineering
------------------------------------------------------------------
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It's obviously a pointless stunt as presented. At 24VDC the motor was
developing 55W and most of that energy went into accelerating and
decelerating the screw.

At 75VDC I was getting 2.5 meters/sec (100 IPS) but it was hurting
the stage by being beyond the screw's critical RPM. No video on that
because I didn't want to repeat it numerous times.

What matters is the stage is going to be equipped with rate-damped
compression spring loads next. This will be to test and run data on
the "unstallable stepper project" algorithms for when a closed-loop
stepper runs into a load beyond what it can sustain at the programmed
velocity rate.

This was all fun in videoing what the axis can comfortably do at
moderate speeds. Next comes dealing with the adaptive algorithms
which are supposed to slow the G100 down during high-speed overloads.

Mariss



--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "nattyone960" <nattyone960@...>
wrote:


Pretty violent R&D.


--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@> wrote:

Not so sure you want that:-)

In the previous run I had the G201 cranked up to 75VDC; the motor
develops 165W+ at that voltage. On the 1-TPI screw it developed
22lbs
(10kg) thrust at 10 meters/min.

It took a nice gouge out of my thumb, the kind it takes super-
glue
to
close up and stop the bleeding.

Furthermore I had a brick instead of the "action figure" as the
load.
The brick was duct-taped to the stage; it flew off and destroyed
my
PC keyboard upon the 2-G deceleration I had programmed.

I decided to play it safe one bloody thumb and and new keyboard
later
when I ran the video. I hit the mouse key to start things and it
darn
near took another bite out of me. Deleted cussing ensued.

Moral: Stay clear of fast-moving stuff unless you want to shed a
little unplanned blood.

Mariss



--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Wayne Weedon <wayne@> wrote:

Mariss Freimanis wrote:

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here
might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at
3,932
IPM.
Please go to:



Great stuff Mariss , but I think at least we should of got the
full
gory
version Swearing, Blood n all!

--
----------------------------------------------------------------
--
--
-------
Wayne M Weedon Email: wayne@
Fdos Design Poole UK
Tel +44-1202-677025 Fax +44-1202-770515 Mobile:
07774
439915

Specialists in small batch & Production Mechanical/Electrical
Engineering
----------------------------------------------------------------
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art
 

Mariss:

You scare me... alot!!

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

Videos And Support Forums
Users Map:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mariss Freimanis" <mariss92705@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:10 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] A really fast Gecko


Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at 3,932 IPM.
Please go to:



Then pick 3900IPM.avi. Please download and save; view it from your
hard drive instead of selecting "open". This will save on bandwidth
and not irritate our webmaster.:-)

Video: 16 seconds, 1.234MB, 720 X 480 format, encoded using DivX 6.0,
no audio; had to remove it because I swore when I nearly got nicked
by the axis.

The average velocity is 51.4"/sec if accel/decel is included. The
velocity 65.535"/sec after accel, before decel. The motor is an MCG
IH230014 run in parallel at 3A/phase, 24VDC supply, PID closed-loop
on the G100 driving a stock-standard G201. The distance in each
direction is 20.000" Motor speed is 3,932.10 RPM, screw is 1"/turn,
well oiled to keep from overheating.:-)

Metric:

Avg velocity: 1.306 meters/sec. (7,836mm/min)
Peak velocity: 1.666 meters/sec. (10,000mm/min)
Distance: 0.508 meters in each direction.

I'll leave the video up one week, then I'll take it down. Enjoy.

Mariss








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Does the Hawiian shirt protect from stray electromagnetic radiation? :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mariss Freimanis" <mariss92705@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: A really fast Gecko


It's obviously a pointless stunt as presented. At 24VDC the motor was developing 55W and most of that energy went into accelerating and decelerating the screw.
At 75VDC I was getting 2.5 meters/sec (100 IPS) but it was hurting the stage by being beyond the screw's critical RPM. No video on that because I didn't want to repeat it numerous times.
What matters is the stage is going to be equipped with rate-damped compression spring loads next. This will be to test and run data on the "unstallable stepper project" algorithms for when a closed-loop stepper runs into a load beyond what it can sustain at the programmed velocity rate.
This was all fun in videoing what the axis can comfortably do at moderate speeds. Next comes dealing with the adaptive algorithms which are supposed to slow the G100 down during high-speed overloads.
Mariss
--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "nattyone960" <nattyone960@...> wrote:

Pretty violent R&D.
--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Mariss Freimanis" <mariss92705@> wrote:

Not so sure you want that:-)
In the previous run I had the G201 cranked up to 75VDC; the motor develops 165W+ at that voltage. On the 1-TPI screw it developed
22lbs
(10kg) thrust at 10 meters/min.
It took a nice gouge out of my thumb, the kind it takes super-
glue
to
close up and stop the bleeding.
Furthermore I had a brick instead of the "action figure" as the
load.
The brick was duct-taped to the stage; it flew off and destroyed
my
PC keyboard upon the 2-G deceleration I had programmed.
I decided to play it safe one bloody thumb and and new keyboard
later
when I ran the video. I hit the mouse key to start things and it
darn
near took another bite out of me. Deleted cussing ensued.
Moral: Stay clear of fast-moving stuff unless you want to shed a little unplanned blood.
Mariss
--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Wayne Weedon <wayne@> wrote:

Mariss Freimanis wrote:

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here
might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at
3,932
IPM.
Please go to:


Great stuff Mariss , but I think at least we should of got the
full
gory
version Swearing, Blood n all!
--
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Wayne M Weedon Email: wayne@
Fdos Design Poole UK Tel +44-1202-677025 Fax +44-1202-770515 Mobile:
07774
439915
Specialists in small batch & Production Mechanical/Electrical
Engineering
----------------------------------------------------------------
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art
 

See, I was right to be scared..:)

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

Videos And Support Forums Users Map:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mariss Freimanis" <mariss92705@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: A really fast Gecko


Not so sure you want that:-)

In the previous run I had the G201 cranked up to 75VDC; the motor develops 165W+ at that voltage. On the 1-TPI screw it developed 22lbs (10kg) thrust at 10 meters/min.

It took a nice gouge out of my thumb, the kind it takes super-glue to close up and stop the bleeding.

Furthermore I had a brick instead of the "action figure" as the load. The brick was duct-taped to the stage; it flew off and destroyed my PC keyboard upon the 2-G deceleration I had programmed.

I decided to play it safe one bloody thumb and and new keyboard later when I ran the video. I hit the mouse key to start things and it darn near took another bite out of me. Deleted cussing ensued.

Moral: Stay clear of fast-moving stuff unless you want to shed a little unplanned blood.

Mariss



--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Wayne Weedon <wayne@...> wrote:

Mariss Freimanis wrote:

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here
might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at 3,932
IPM.
Please go to:


Great stuff Mariss , but I think at least we should of got the full
gory
version Swearing, Blood n all!
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
Wayne M Weedon Email: wayne@...
Fdos Design Poole UK Tel +44-1202-677025 Fax +44-1202-770515 Mobile: 07774
439915
Specialists in small batch & Production Mechanical/Electrical
Engineering
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-------






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nattyone960
 

Well be careful, go out a buy you a set of X-Gears.... you know shin
guards, helmet, etc!
I am trying to protect my selfish interests here as well.


--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@...> wrote:

It's obviously a pointless stunt as presented. At 24VDC the motor
was
developing 55W and most of that energy went into accelerating and
decelerating the screw.

At 75VDC I was getting 2.5 meters/sec (100 IPS) but it was hurting
the stage by being beyond the screw's critical RPM. No video on
that
because I didn't want to repeat it numerous times.

What matters is the stage is going to be equipped with rate-damped
compression spring loads next. This will be to test and run data on
the "unstallable stepper project" algorithms for when a closed-loop
stepper runs into a load beyond what it can sustain at the
programmed
velocity rate.

This was all fun in videoing what the axis can comfortably do at
moderate speeds. Next comes dealing with the adaptive algorithms
which are supposed to slow the G100 down during high-speed
overloads.

Mariss


 

Art, You called that one right...scared..are we going to have to start X-Rating
Mariss do to the Graphical Blood Letting Scenes!

On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:34:00 -0300
art <fenerty@...> wrote:
See, I was right to be scared..:)
Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca
Videos And Support Forums Users Map:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mariss Freimanis" <mariss92705@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: A really fast Gecko
Not so sure you want that:-)
In the previous run I had the G201 cranked up to 75VDC; the motor develops 165W+ at that voltage. On the 1-TPI screw it developed 22lbs (10kg) thrust at 10 meters/min.
It took a nice gouge out of my thumb, the kind it takes super-glue to close up and stop the bleeding.
Furthermore I had a brick instead of the "action figure" as the load. The brick was duct-taped to the stage; it flew off and destroyed my PC keyboard upon the 2-G deceleration I had programmed.
I decided to play it safe one bloody thumb and and new keyboard later when I ran the video. I hit the mouse key to start things and it darn near took another bite out of me. Deleted cussing ensued.
Moral: Stay clear of fast-moving stuff unless you want to shed a little unplanned blood.
Mariss
--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Wayne Weedon <wayne@...> wrote:

Mariss Freimanis wrote:

Hi,

Cross-posted from the geckodrive group. I thought people here
might
be interested in it.
--------------------------------------

I uploaded a short video that has an axis tooling along at 3,932
IPM.
Please go to:


Great stuff Mariss , but I think at least we should of got the full
gory
version Swearing, Blood n all!
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--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@...> wrote:

What matters is the stage is going to be equipped with rate-damped
compression spring loads next. This will be to test and run data
on
the "unstallable stepper project" algorithms for when a closed-
loop
stepper runs into a load beyond what it can sustain at the
programmed
velocity rate.


Mariss
So, once the steppers are "unstallable", the demonstration will chop
off your finger rather than just gashing it, right? <G>

Very impressive demo!

Best,

BW