mach4 is working pretty well for me with just a few annoying
bugs. when you open the program it shows the last jog increment
but it actually has something else stored in memory and if you jog
intending to jog .01" you may jog 1" breaking a cutter. i am not
good at remembering these bugs. i would like to seith to a
dedicated controller but i have my screens and methods all set up
to make life easy for me. i doubt i could make the switch. i am
under treatment for stage 4 cancer and have very little energy and
occasional brain fog. i can only work half days at best and do not
need more work, i want less.
On 10/21/2021 10:40 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
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Thing
is, Windows has had API¡¯s to handle all that stuff for you
for ages.? If you let Windows handle it, your files even
show up in Explorer (quick links and all that) so you can
open from there, pin them, mark as favourites and all that
sort of stuff.
?
You¡¯d
think if you were going to develop for Windows, you¡¯d kinda
learn how the operating system does things and what it can
do for you.
?
As
I said, the Mach devs thinking never got past DOS 6.2.? (Not
even 6.22 which was the one where they put commas in long
files sizes!)
?
Tossing
the MRU list into the machine profile is not something the
smartest tools in the shed do.? You really don¡¯t want that
file written to all the time, one glitch = corrupted file
and your machine is dead. ?Remember the ¡°hey, my profile is
corrupt!¡± threads?
?
Tony
?
?
?
I can
understand your frustration. Maybe now that we've
discussed the heck out of it, they'll pay some attention.
Though from what I understand, this is not actually an
official Mach group. If I'm correct, we're lucky that they
spend any time here at all. Heck, they could call it
"recentfiles.ini" or something that makes sense, right?
I've given up on talking to the Microsoft folks, myself.
Been using their stuff for quite a long time. Hope the
Mach folks don't do the same sorts of idiotic messing
about that MS does.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a
sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty
meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
the
first thing i did was read RTFM and there was no
mention. then i looked for a file that made
sense to hold the file list. it did not occur to
me that it would be in machine.ini.
to
get rid of a file in the list you need to open
machine.ini in the working profile with mach4
closed and delete it and then restart mach4
because it apparently keeps a local file of
machine.ini and writes it back
i
still would like to have mach4 ask if you want
to remove the file from the list if it is not
found, that would serve everyone's needs without
you having to remember the file and edit
yourself while mach4 is closed. i hate these
sorts of work arounds that have to be
remembered. i also would like the most recent
file to be moved to the top of the list as it is
in other programs i use.
On
10/21/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
I
don't think I'd go with dumb, but a more
specific question would give the
knowledgeable folks a better idea of what
you needed. Why do you think I'm not even
asking any questions? I don't know enough
about the software to even ask a good
question! And any question I did ask could
probably be best answered with some
variation of RTFI! That's "Read the Freaking
Instructions!" in case you weren't aware of
that acronym. Windows has a location that it
keeps recent files, as does MS Word, so I
would expect Mach does as well. Couldn't
tell you any longer where the previous two
keep theirs, and have never run any version
of Mach. Though I expect I could figure it
out if I needed to. I would expect that Mach
would keep that listed updated if you delete
those files through Mach, which might help
you. Or maybe not. Windows has changed an
awful lot since I first started playing with
it.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a
diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve
equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization
is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
you
are right i pointed out the problem
but did not specifically ask for a
solution. i guess it was dumb of me
to assume that someone would answer
without an explicit question.
On
10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC
too via groups.io wrote:
This
thread, saved files, was
started at 2:33 pm October
20th, according to my
history.?
You
had another thread, recently
opened, you started October
16. I don't see where anyone
responded to it, but you
didn't really ask anything
but if there were updates to
Mach4.?
I'd
suggest if you want answers,
you ask an overt question.
Might work better for you.
Unfortunately, I can't
answer them because I don't
yet have Mach in any
version. Just sort of
following along wondering if
it would do anything I need
done in the future.
William
R. Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be
able to change a
diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a
ship, design a
building, write a
sonnet, balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying,
take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone,
solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure,
program a computer,
cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die
gallantly.
Specialization is for
insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert
A. Heinlein)
?
my
history shows saturday
or 5 days ago as i
said. i believe i
asked this a while ago
as well.
On
10/21/2021 7:15 PM,
mike allen wrote:
???
??? you don't have to
justify anything to me
. Check your email
history . You started
this thread yesterday
according to my
history . Wasted
enough bandwith here .
Just mind your manners
& we'll be fine .
I'm done with this .
???
animal
i
posted the question
probably 5 days ago
and maybe in the past
a well. i spent a lot
of time trying to
figure this out myself
before even posting.?
i also mentioned a
serious bug months ago
and nothing was done
about that either.
On
10/21/2021 6:40 PM,
mike allen wrote:
???
??? I'm not here to
police , I'm here to
learn . I just get
sick of folks that
start whining as soon
as something doesn't
go their way .
???
??? " and why is this
a well kept secret?
the recent files list
is bullshit without
the ability to edit it
"
???
??? You had a problem
& posted about it
& then kept
slamming about it for
a day & never even
gave the mach folks a
chance to get you a
answer? .
???
??? animal
i
don't know if you are
referring to me as one
of the two doing all
the complaining. i was
just asking for a
reasonable solution. i
generally find mach4
much better than 3 in
many ways but would
like to have it even
better. there are a
few annoying
"features" that i
would like to see
improved. if asking
for that is "doing all
the complaining" i
think you are a
hypersensitive jerk.
On
10/21/2021 3:59 PM,
mike allen wrote:
??? ??? My
post was not aimed
at you John . It was
aimed at the two
folks doing all the
complaining? . No
one is here forcing
them to use Mach ,
but just cause
someone is having a
bad hair day or what
??? ???
ever is no excuse to
slam the developer
of the program .
Brian is here
occasionally to
answer questions
& maybe take bug
reports . If you
don't like the way
the program was
wrote them go write
your own program !!
On
10/21/2021 11:41 AM,
John McGovern via
groups.io wrote:
Please take
me out of this
conversation. I've
tried everything I
know how to do. I
was never in this
topic.
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???
??? is anyone forcing
you guys to use Mach ?
???
??? animal
On
10/21/2021 3:53 AM,
Tony Smith wrote:
Of course
it's not a good
place, as I said
the Mach devs are
pretty clueless
about how to
organise things
under Windows.
Programs
like Mach4 are
the answer to
"Why is Windows
security so
shit?".
?
i have
never had to
find the
location of
mru file list
because most
apps i have
used offer the
option of
deleting an
entry if it is
not found. it
is in
machine.ini
which does not
seem like a
good place.
?
On
10/20/2021
7:57 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
Apparently
invisible on
Spencers PC.
?
Someone
should tell
the Mach devs
about how this
new-fangled
Windows stuff
is supposed to
work.? I mean
it¡¯s only been
about 30
years.
?
Tony
?
?
?
It¡¯s
in the
Machine.ini
file in your
profile folder
under
C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles
?
?
What
secret??
No-one cares.
?
I¡¯ve put
MRU lists into
just about
everything
I¡¯ve ever
written, and
never once put
in an option
to clear it,
nor did any
one ask.? It
really is a
very low
priority.?
Hell, I
remember when
MRUs became
the big new
thing, lol.
?
People only
care when you
don¡¯t want
your wife to
see the
¡°special
interest¡±
videos you¡¯ve
been watching,
she may ask
about your
sudden
interest in
basket
weaving.
?
Not
surprised the
MRU isn¡¯t in
the registry,
the Mach dev
are still
living in the
DOS days.?
Given that as
before take a
rummage thru
the Mach4
folder, there
will be some
sort of
setting files
(,ini, .dat?)
that has the
list.? The
modified date
should be
recent as
it¡¯ll be
edited every
time you fire
up Mach4.?
Whether you
can write a
little script
to modify
that, who
knows.
?
Wouldn¡¯t
surprise me if
it¡¯s tacked
onto the
machine
settings file.
?
File a
request with
the Mach devs,
nothing will
happen but
anyway.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
and
why is this a
well kept
secret? the
recent files
list is
bullshit
without the
ability to
edit it.
right
clicking does
nothing nor
can i find the
files in the
registry. it i
a severe lack
to not allow
users to get
rid of this
garbage if
they want to.
i understand
the fat that
some people
might want to
keep files
from external
sources in the
list but what
about those
who want to
get rid of the
garbage. there
has to be a
way to get rid
of this or
clear the
whole cache.
On
10/20/2021
5:25 PM, John
McGovern via
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I meant
some programs
let you clear
the list, eg
in MS Office
you can
right-click
the list and
it'll have a
"Clear
recents"
option,
something like
that.
I very much
doubt Mach4
does this,
If the list
does wind up
in the
registry, what
you can do is
delete all of
the files,
then save the
Key (registry
folder) to a
file (will
have a reg
extension).?
If you then
open that file
in the future
it will ask if
you want to
replace the
current Key
with it, thus
clearing the
list.
Oh, and
before I said
to search for
'Values' in
the registry,
should have
said 'Data'.
?
what
is this
"occasional
program" and
where do i get
it?
On
10/20/2021
2:42 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
It's called
an MRU (Most
Recently Used)
list, and is
typically
stored in the
Windows
registry.
Of course
given the Mach
devs don't
have much of a
clue about
where you are
supposed to
put stuff
(C;\Mach4?
Sure!), their
list could be
anywhere, but
probably in
the install
folder where
they?dump
everything
else.
Use regedit
to search for
one of the
files on the
list, it can
search for 3
types of
things so just
leave 'Value'
ticked.? Try a
partial match
as well.? This
will be a bit
slow as Values
aren't
indexed..
The reasons
why no-one
clears out the
list is
because it
wastes time,
and the files
may only be
temporarily
unavailable
(different
flash drive,
network drive
etc) so wiping
the 'dead'
ones will
annoy a
different
bunch of
people.? There
is the
occasional
program
that'll let
you clear the
list, not all
that common.
?
i
wrote before
with no reply.
Mach four
maintains a
recent fiels
list
but there is
no wa to get
rid of old
files. this
make a logn
useless
list of
current files
mixed with a
bunch of old
deleted stuff.
makes it
a pain to
choose the
right file.
easier to have
a working
folder and do
the management
yourself,
where is this
list found and
can it be
edited?
or better yet
why cant mach4
automatically
delete files
that are nor
found ?
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