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Andre:
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?? Try one test.. lower Z accel to 10.. run your job. If it runs fine, ( I suspect it will), raise Z slowly till you see trouble, and then back it off 20%.
From then on you should be gold.
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Thanks,
Art
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] Support

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Hi Art

I will try this as well.

My Motor Tuning settings for all my axes as the following ¨C starting with the Z-Axis:

Z-Axis:? Steps per = 494.0698539

??????????????? Velocity mm¡¯s per min = 5191.0

??????????????? Acceleration = 100

X-Axis:? Steps per = 86.95652174

??????????????? Velocity mm¡¯s per min = 8328

??????????????? Acceleration = 306.1875

Y-Axis:? Steps per = 200.3234631

??????????????? Velocity mm¡¯s per min = 6228

??????????????? Acceleration = 157.15116

For what it is worth

From: mach1mach2cnc@... [mailto:mach1mach2cnc@...]
Sent: 17 February 2015 02:41 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] Support

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>>The same code I tested 2x and worked fine. Then on tool change it start to
>>hit the z-limit switch again

This is almost textbook for a system with Z axis trouble. When the axis
drives into the material, it struggles and steps get lost, this causes a
most
annoying and confounding type of problem, in the air all is fine, in
material you hit the Z upper limit switch over time.

The test for this is simple, run a program that drives the Z up and down
several times and moves in the X after each Z up and down. Run this in the
air 10 times, then see if Z has lost anything. Then run it in material 10
times, where the Z has to cut the material on each downward plunge. How
often out of 10 times is it out of position in the Z at end of program?

If the AIR run is clean, and the material run is not.. you have a problem
with your Z.. Sometimes its the speed is too high on the retract, meaning
your Z tuning is set too high. ( Personally, when seeing this type of
problem my first move is to lower the Z max tuning speed by 50% as a test.
If that doesnt fix
it I then turn down the Z plunge rate in the GCode by 50% to see if that
fixes it.. I rarely get further than those two tests before the issue shows
itself.

If GCode runs properly in the air... and doesnt in material, the problem
in 95% of cases is the machine, not the GCode or Mach3. Ive seen this
error literally thousands of times over the years, the problem....and its
ensuing frustration remains the same. :) , Mach3 still has many bugs, most
known, but it runs the same from run to run in 99.999% of cases.. so in your
case, Im betting on a mechanical / tuning issue...

Thanks,
Art


----- Original Message -----
From: charles Fellows cfellows49@... [mach1mach2cnc]
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [mach1mach2cnc] Support

Andre,

I am sorry you are still having problems. It appears your issue is tied to
tool height compensation. I suggest you experiment with limited code until
it is worked out. When I was learning I used a cardboard box as my table
height so I could change tools and have time to hit E-stop before I struck
the bed if something was wrong.

I have observed in your discussions you include diameters. I suggest until
you work this out you forget diameters and only pay attention to lengths.
The easiest way to have the problem you are describing would be to be using
the offsets screen incorrectly. Are you using the offsets screen at any
time?

I have an hour or so if you are available now. Please describe how you have
determined tool length, how you have set your lengths into the tool table,
and how you have numbered your tools.

Charlie.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:59 AM, 'Andre Schoonbee' andresch@...
[mach1mach2cnc] <mach1mach2cnc@...> wrote:

I do not know if I am allowed to post a RFQ/RFP on this forum but, I am at
the end of the line ¨C for some reason Mach is working on my nerves and seems
to get a kick out of it.

When using Vectric Aspire and generate code it works perfect.

But then with the help of the guys form Cabinet Vision, the code is acting
weird. This yesterday and this morning, O was doing a test run of g-code and
it worked fine, it sliced the air like butter ¨C each line executed perfect.
I then restarted my machine again to make sure no memory or setting issue
can creep in to cause a problem and started the real cut of a MDF sheet -
cutting a 4 drawer floor cabinet. The same code I tested 2x and worked fine.
Then on tool change it start to hit the z-limit switch again.

I need someone that know mach well and also can detect why the g-code is
causing this. This person should preferably be willing to do remote support.
To make sure there is no setting error om my machine, give advice in the
steps I follow, maybe provide customized scripts if needed, and then most
important, help me to identify why the code on mach3 works and then all of a
sudden does not work without anything changed.

This is really urgent

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