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On Wednesday, 31 March 2021, 11:37:20 BST, John Miller via groups.io <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:
Well, not a lot of people know but there have been other accidents/near misses. This was at Windscale. The problem was solved politically?by changing it's name to Sellafield. Without the "Cockcrofts folly" filters it would have been at least as bad as Chernobyl.? Even with these filters they had to dump a whole lot of cows milk There was the 3 mile island disaster, which must have been very good promotion for the film the China syndrome which came out a few months later. A few other events in Russia. A criticality accident in Japan which killed one worker & severely injured another, because they put too much Plutonium together, against the rules, & of course there has been Fukushima. I was inclined (at a younger age) to think Nuclear power was a good thing. I'm not a proponent of it now. Oh & an American bomber crashed at Lakenheath & 2 hydrogen bombs were lost in North Carolina
Remembering the night two atomic bombs fell—on North Carolina Sixty years ago, at the height of the Cold War, a B-52 bomber disintegrated over a small Southern town. An eyewitness recalls what happened next. PHOTOGRAPH BY BETTMANN ARCHIVE, GETTY READ CAPTION Firefighters hose down the smoking wreckage of a B-52 Stratofortress near Faro, North Carolina, in the early morning hours of January 24, 1961. The plane released two atomic bombs when it fell apart in midair. PHOTOGRAPH BY BETTMANN ARCHIVE, GETTY 8 MINUTE READ BY BILL NEWCOTT PUBLISHED JANUARY 22, 2021 BILLY REEVES REMEMBERS that night in January 1961 as unseasonably warm, even for North Carolina. But it got a lot hotter just before midnight, when the walls of his room began glowing red with a strange light streaming through his window. "I was just getting ready for bed," Reeves says, "and all of a sudden I’m thinking, 'What in the world…?'" The 17-year-old ran out to the porch of his family’s farm house just in time to see a flaming B-52 bomber—one wing missing, fiery debris rocketing off in all directions—plunge from the sky and plow into a field barely a quarter-mile away. “Everything around here was on fire,” says Reeves, now 78, standing with me in the middle of that same field, our backs to the modest house where he grew up. “The grass was burning. Big Daddy’s Road over there was melting. My mother was praying. She thought it was the End of Times.” Like any self-respecting teenager, Reeves began running straight toward the wreckage—until it exploded. “Then I ran the other way,” he says. 罢翱顿础驰’厂 POPULAR STORIES America’s first ‘virtual’ inauguration ushers in a transformed era Greener air travel will depend on these emerging technologies Dire wolves were real—and even stranger than we thought Within an hour, in the early morning of January 24, a military helicopter was hovering overhead. Above the whomp-whomp of the blades, an amplified voice kept repeating the same word: “Evacuate!” “We didn’t know why,” Reeves recalls. “We didn’t ask why. We just got out of there.” What the voice in the chopper knew, but Reeves didn’t, was that besides the wreckage of the ill-fated B-52, somewhere out there in the winter darkness lay what the military referred to as “broken arrows”—the remains of two 3.8-megaton thermonuclear atomic bombs. Each contained more firepower than the combined destructive force of every explosion caused by humans from the beginning of time to the end of World War II. A wing and a prayer If there were such a thing as a friendly neighborhood military base, it would be near sleepy Goldsboro, North Carolina. Largely hidden behind woods, walls, and wetlands, the base has been an unobtrusive jobs-and-money community asset since World War II. Despite a notable increase in air traffic in late 1960, the good people of Goldsboro had no inkling that their local Air Force base had quietly become one of several U.S. airfields selected for Operation Chrome Dome, a doomsday program that kept multiple B-52 bombers in the air throughout the Northern Hemisphere 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Each plane carried two atomic bombs. () ? NGP, Content may not reflect . Bombers flying from Johnson AFB in January 1961 would typically make a few training loops just off the coast of North Carolina, then head across the Atlantic all the way to the Azores before doubling back. The gas-guzzling B-52s, called BUFFs by airmen (for Big Ugly Fat Fellow, only they didn’t say “fellow”) had to be refueled multiple times during each mission. It was following one of these refueling sessions that Captain Walter Tulloch and his crew noticed their plane was rapidly losing fuel. Then they began having electrical problems. Tulloch briefly resisted an order from Air Control to return to Goldsboro, preferring to burn off some fuel before coming in for a risky landing. But soon he followed orders and headed back. At about 5,000 feet altitude, approaching from the south and about 15 miles from the base, Tulloch made a final turn. That’s when the B-52 fell apart. As part of the Cold War-era Operation Chrome Dome, U.S. Air Force B-52 bombers flew globe-spanning missions day and night out of several U.S. airfields, including Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro, North Carolina. PHOTOGRAPH BY DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, THE LIFE PICTURE COLLECTION/GETTY “Tulloch had the B-52 lined up to land on Runway 26, but suddenly the plane started veering off to the right, toward the hamlet of Faro,” says Joel Dobson, author of the definitive book on the crash, . “Then it started rolling over and tearing apart.” A few weeks before, the Air Force and the plane’s builder, Boeing, had realized that a recent modification—fitting the B-52’s wings with fuel bladders—could cause the wings to tear off. Tulloch’s plane was scheduled for a re-fit to resolve the problem, but it would come too late. He knew his plane was doomed, so he hit the “bail out” alarm. Of the eight airmen aboard the B-52, six sat in ejection seats. Adam Mattocks, the third pilot, was assigned a regular jump seat in the cockpit. The youngest man on board, 27-year-old Mattocks was also an Air Force rarity: an African-American jet fighter pilot, reassigned to B-52 duty as Operation Chrome Dome got into full swing. At this moment, it looked like that chance assignment would be his death warrant. “Basically, Mattocks was a dead man,” Dobson says. His only chance was to somehow pull himself through a cockpit window after the other two pilots had ejected. “He was a very religious man,” Dobson says. “He told me he just looked around and said, ‘Well, God, if it’s my time, so be it. But here goes.’” The B-52 crash was front-page news in Goldsboro and around the country… Read More PHOTOGRAPH COURTESY OF WAYNE COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY It was a surreal moment. The B-52’s forward speed was nearly zero, but the plane had not yet started falling. It was as if Mattocks and the plane were, for a moment, suspended in midair. He seized on that moment to hurl himself into the abyss, leaping as far from the B-52 as he could. He pulled his parachute ripcord. At first it didn’t deploy, perhaps because his air speed was so low. But as he began falling in earnest, the welcome sight of an air-filled canopy billowed in the night sky above him. “Mattocks prayed, ‘Thank you, God!’” says Dobson. “Then the plane exploded in midair and collapsed his chute.” Now Mattocks was just another piece of falling debris from the disintegrating B-52. Somehow, a stream of air slipped into the fluttering chute and it re-inflated. Mattocks was once more floating toward Earth. Looking up at that gently bobbing chute, Mattocks again whispered, “Thank you, God!” Then he looked down. He was heading straight for the burning wreckage of the B-52. “Well, Lord,” he said out loud, “if this is the way it’s going to end, so be it.” Then a gust of wind, or perhaps an updraft from the flames below, nudged him to the south. He landed, unhurt, away from the main crash site. After one last murmur of thanks, Mattocks headed for a nearby farmhouse and hitched a ride back to the Air Force base. Standing at the front gate in a tattered flight suit, still holding his bundled parachute in his arms, Mattocks told the guards he had just bailed from a crashing B-52. Faced with a disheveled African-American man cradling a parachute and telling a cockamamie story like that, the sentries did exactly what you might expect a pair of guards in 1961 rural North Carolina to do: They arrested Mattocks for stealing a parachute. A bomb too far I am bouncing along the backroads of Faro, North Carolina, in Billy Reeves’ pickup truck. He pulls over near a line of trees perpendicular to Shackleford Road. Slowed by its parachute, one of the bombs came to rest in a stand of trees… Read More PHOTOGRAPH COURTESY U.S. AIR FORCE “That’s where they found the intact bomb,” he tells me. “Its parachute opened, so it just floated down here and was hanging from those trees. The tip was barely dug into the ground.” A little farther, a few more turns, and his voice turns somber. “Right up there,” he says, nodding toward a canopy of trees hanging over the road, his voice catching a bit. “That’s where they found the dead man hanging from his parachute in the morning. So sad.” Of the eight airmen aboard the B-52, five ejected—one of whom didn't survive the landing—one failed to eject, and another, in a jump seat similar to Mattocks, died in the crash. To this day, Adam Columbus Mattocks—who died in 2018—remains the only aviator to bail out of a B-52 cockpit without an ejector seat and survive. All around the crash site, Reeves says, local residents continue to find fragments of the plane. There are tales of people still concealing pieces of landing gear and fuselage. Shortly after the crash, Reeves found an entire wooden box of bullets. “They took the box,” he says. “Wouldn’t even let me keep one bullet.” But by far the most significant remnant of that calamitous January night still lies 180 feet or so beneath that cotton field. Although the first bomb floated harmlessly to the ground under its parachute, the second came to a more disastrous end: It plowed into the earth at nearly the speed of sound, sending thousands of pieces burrowing into the ground for hundreds of feet around. The basketball-sized nuclear bomb device was quickly recovered—miraculously intact, its nuclear core uncompromised. The U.S. Government soon announced its safe return and loudly reassured the public that, thanks to the device’s multiple safety systems, the bomb had never come close to exploding. (Related: ) Despite decades of alarmist theories to the contrary, that assessment was probably correct. Like a bungee cord calculated to yank a jumper back mere inches from hitting the ground, the system intervened just in time to prevent a nuclear nightmare. Ironically, it appears that the bomb that drifted gently to earth posed the bigger risk, since its detonating mechanism remained intact. Robert McNamara, who’d been Secretary of Defense at the time of the incident, told reporters in 1983, "The bomb’s arming mechanism had six or seven steps to go through to detonate, and it went through all but one.” “The bottom line for me is the safety mechanisms worked,” says Roy “Doc” Heidicker, the recently retired historian for the Fourth Fighter Wing, which flies out of Johnson Air Force Base. “On the other hand, I know of at least one medical doctor who was considering moving to Goldsboro for a position, but was concerned that it might not be safe because of the Goldsboro broken arrow. So there’s this continuing sense people have: ‘You nearly blew us all up, and you’re not telling us the truth about it.’” But the story of America’s nuclear near-miss isn’t really over, even now. That’s because, even though the government recovered the primary nuclear device, attempts to recover other radioactive remnants of the bomb failed. The main portion of the B-52 plowed into this cotton field, where remnants of one of its two bombs are still buried. PHOTOGRAPH BY BILL NEWCOTT If I were to hold a Geiger counter to the ground of the cotton field in which Billy Reeves and I are standing, chances are it would register nothing unusual. Dirt is a remarkably efficient radiation absorber. But about 180 feet below our shoes, gently radiating away with a half-life of 24,000 years, lies the plutonium core of the bomb’s secondary stage. The bombs in the B-52 weren’t mere Hiroshima-class atomic weapons. They were Mark-39 hydrogen thermonuclear bombs. Each contained not only a conventional spherical atom bomb at its tip, but also a 13-pound rod of plutonium inside a 300-pound compartment filled with the hydrogen isotope lithium-6 deuteride. If you think of the Mark-39 as a pipe bomb, the heat thrown off by the secondary device is the nails and shrapnel that make the initial explosion exponentially more dangerous. Reeves remembers the fleet of massive excavation equipment that was employed as the government tried to dig up the hydrogen core. But the area’s water table was high, and the hole kept filling in. Eventually, the feds gave up. They filled in the hole, drew a 400-foot-radius circle around the epicenter of the impact, and purchased the land inside the circle. The plot is still farmed to this day. Workers just have to refrain from digging more than five feet down. Skimming the tree line beyond the far end of the cotton field, a military plane is coming in on final approach to Johnson Air Force Base. Reeves lives under that flight pattern, and every day brings a memory of that chaotic night in 1961. “When the planes come in, and the windows begin to rattle, I still get the chills,” he says. We trudge across the field toward Big Daddy’s Road, where our vehicles are parked. “Actually, we’ve been really lucky,” he says. “Other than that one, there’s never been another military crash around here.” The muddy ground sucks at our shoes. "Course," he adds, "the one accident we did have dropped a couple of atom bombs on us…" SHARE TWEET COPY READ THIS NEXT The elusive horror of Hiroshima It's hard to fathom the nuclear holocaust that laid waste to this now vibrant city 75 years ago. Twists of fate made Nagasaki a target 75 years ago Did the U.S. plan to drop more than two atomic bombs on Japan? How the advent of nuclear weapons changed the course of history LATEST IN HISTORY & CULTURE Remembering the night two atomic bombs fell—on North Carolina READ READ Our democracy is wounded. 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On Wednesday, 31 March 2021, 10:19:15 BST, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:
I still shudder from watching that Chernobyl series; self sacrifice was the expected thing. Best Susan On 30 Mar 2021, at 14:59, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Trust me Chris I saw it in a documentary. There are some extraordinarily brave & good people & their are some who are outright evil. Remember the fireman at Kings Cross who ran down to save another person & was burnt to death? He probably knew the odds were 100 to1 against, but he went anyway. That was his job. The Chernobyl workers who went into deadly radiation zones I will endeavour to find the information I am not at my best at the moment Regards john |
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Well, not a lot of people know but there have been other accidents/near misses. This was at Windscale. The problem was solved politically?by changing it's name to Sellafield. Without the "Cockcrofts folly" filters it would have been at least as bad as Chernobyl.? Even with these filters they had to dump a whole lot of cows milk There was the 3 mile island disaster, which must have been very good promotion for the film the China syndrome which came out a few months later. A few other events in Russia. A criticality accident in Japan which killed one worker & severely injured another, because they put too much Plutonium together, against the rules, & of course there has been Fukushima. I was inclined (at a younger age) to think Nuclear power was a good thing. I'm not a proponent of it now. Oh & an American bomber crashed at Lakenheath & 2 hydrogen bombs were lost in North Carolina
Remembering the night two atomic bombs fell—on North Carolina Sixty years ago, at the height of the Cold War, a B-52 bomber disintegrated over a small Southern town. An eyewitness recalls what happened next. PHOTOGRAPH BY BETTMANN ARCHIVE, GETTY READ CAPTION Firefighters hose down the smoking wreckage of a B-52 Stratofortress near Faro, North Carolina, in the early morning hours of January 24, 1961. The plane released two atomic bombs when it fell apart in midair. PHOTOGRAPH BY BETTMANN ARCHIVE, GETTY 8 MINUTE READ BY BILL NEWCOTT PUBLISHED JANUARY 22, 2021 BILLY REEVES REMEMBERS that night in January 1961 as unseasonably warm, even for North Carolina. But it got a lot hotter just before midnight, when the walls of his room began glowing red with a strange light streaming through his window. "I was just getting ready for bed," Reeves says, "and all of a sudden I’m thinking, 'What in the world…?'" The 17-year-old ran out to the porch of his family’s farm house just in time to see a flaming B-52 bomber—one wing missing, fiery debris rocketing off in all directions—plunge from the sky and plow into a field barely a quarter-mile away. “Everything around here was on fire,” says Reeves, now 78, standing with me in the middle of that same field, our backs to the modest house where he grew up. “The grass was burning. Big Daddy’s Road over there was melting. My mother was praying. She thought it was the End of Times.” Like any self-respecting teenager, Reeves began running straight toward the wreckage—until it exploded. “Then I ran the other way,” he says. 罢翱顿础驰’厂 POPULAR STORIES America’s first ‘virtual’ inauguration ushers in a transformed era Greener air travel will depend on these emerging technologies Dire wolves were real—and even stranger than we thought Within an hour, in the early morning of January 24, a military helicopter was hovering overhead. Above the whomp-whomp of the blades, an amplified voice kept repeating the same word: “Evacuate!” “We didn’t know why,” Reeves recalls. “We didn’t ask why. We just got out of there.” What the voice in the chopper knew, but Reeves didn’t, was that besides the wreckage of the ill-fated B-52, somewhere out there in the winter darkness lay what the military referred to as “broken arrows”—the remains of two 3.8-megaton thermonuclear atomic bombs. Each contained more firepower than the combined destructive force of every explosion caused by humans from the beginning of time to the end of World War II. A wing and a prayer If there were such a thing as a friendly neighborhood military base, it would be near sleepy Goldsboro, North Carolina. Largely hidden behind woods, walls, and wetlands, the base has been an unobtrusive jobs-and-money community asset since World War II. Despite a notable increase in air traffic in late 1960, the good people of Goldsboro had no inkling that their local Air Force base had quietly become one of several U.S. airfields selected for Operation Chrome Dome, a doomsday program that kept multiple B-52 bombers in the air throughout the Northern Hemisphere 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Each plane carried two atomic bombs. () ? NGP, Content may not reflect . Bombers flying from Johnson AFB in January 1961 would typically make a few training loops just off the coast of North Carolina, then head across the Atlantic all the way to the Azores before doubling back. The gas-guzzling B-52s, called BUFFs by airmen (for Big Ugly Fat Fellow, only they didn’t say “fellow”) had to be refueled multiple times during each mission. It was following one of these refueling sessions that Captain Walter Tulloch and his crew noticed their plane was rapidly losing fuel. Then they began having electrical problems. Tulloch briefly resisted an order from Air Control to return to Goldsboro, preferring to burn off some fuel before coming in for a risky landing. But soon he followed orders and headed back. At about 5,000 feet altitude, approaching from the south and about 15 miles from the base, Tulloch made a final turn. That’s when the B-52 fell apart. As part of the Cold War-era Operation Chrome Dome, U.S. Air Force B-52 bombers flew globe-spanning missions day and night out of several U.S. airfields, including Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro, North Carolina. PHOTOGRAPH BY DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, THE LIFE PICTURE COLLECTION/GETTY “Tulloch had the B-52 lined up to land on Runway 26, but suddenly the plane started veering off to the right, toward the hamlet of Faro,” says Joel Dobson, author of the definitive book on the crash, . “Then it started rolling over and tearing apart.” A few weeks before, the Air Force and the plane’s builder, Boeing, had realized that a recent modification—fitting the B-52’s wings with fuel bladders—could cause the wings to tear off. Tulloch’s plane was scheduled for a re-fit to resolve the problem, but it would come too late. He knew his plane was doomed, so he hit the “bail out” alarm. Of the eight airmen aboard the B-52, six sat in ejection seats. Adam Mattocks, the third pilot, was assigned a regular jump seat in the cockpit. The youngest man on board, 27-year-old Mattocks was also an Air Force rarity: an African-American jet fighter pilot, reassigned to B-52 duty as Operation Chrome Dome got into full swing. At this moment, it looked like that chance assignment would be his death warrant. “Basically, Mattocks was a dead man,” Dobson says. His only chance was to somehow pull himself through a cockpit window after the other two pilots had ejected. “He was a very religious man,” Dobson says. “He told me he just looked around and said, ‘Well, God, if it’s my time, so be it. But here goes.’” The B-52 crash was front-page news in Goldsboro and around the country… Read More PHOTOGRAPH COURTESY OF WAYNE COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY It was a surreal moment. The B-52’s forward speed was nearly zero, but the plane had not yet started falling. It was as if Mattocks and the plane were, for a moment, suspended in midair. He seized on that moment to hurl himself into the abyss, leaping as far from the B-52 as he could. He pulled his parachute ripcord. At first it didn’t deploy, perhaps because his air speed was so low. But as he began falling in earnest, the welcome sight of an air-filled canopy billowed in the night sky above him. “Mattocks prayed, ‘Thank you, God!’” says Dobson. “Then the plane exploded in midair and collapsed his chute.” Now Mattocks was just another piece of falling debris from the disintegrating B-52. Somehow, a stream of air slipped into the fluttering chute and it re-inflated. Mattocks was once more floating toward Earth. Looking up at that gently bobbing chute, Mattocks again whispered, “Thank you, God!” Then he looked down. He was heading straight for the burning wreckage of the B-52. “Well, Lord,” he said out loud, “if this is the way it’s going to end, so be it.” Then a gust of wind, or perhaps an updraft from the flames below, nudged him to the south. He landed, unhurt, away from the main crash site. After one last murmur of thanks, Mattocks headed for a nearby farmhouse and hitched a ride back to the Air Force base. Standing at the front gate in a tattered flight suit, still holding his bundled parachute in his arms, Mattocks told the guards he had just bailed from a crashing B-52. Faced with a disheveled African-American man cradling a parachute and telling a cockamamie story like that, the sentries did exactly what you might expect a pair of guards in 1961 rural North Carolina to do: They arrested Mattocks for stealing a parachute. A bomb too far I am bouncing along the backroads of Faro, North Carolina, in Billy Reeves’ pickup truck. He pulls over near a line of trees perpendicular to Shackleford Road. Slowed by its parachute, one of the bombs came to rest in a stand of trees… Read More PHOTOGRAPH COURTESY U.S. AIR FORCE “That’s where they found the intact bomb,” he tells me. “Its parachute opened, so it just floated down here and was hanging from those trees. The tip was barely dug into the ground.” A little farther, a few more turns, and his voice turns somber. “Right up there,” he says, nodding toward a canopy of trees hanging over the road, his voice catching a bit. “That’s where they found the dead man hanging from his parachute in the morning. So sad.” Of the eight airmen aboard the B-52, five ejected—one of whom didn't survive the landing—one failed to eject, and another, in a jump seat similar to Mattocks, died in the crash. To this day, Adam Columbus Mattocks—who died in 2018—remains the only aviator to bail out of a B-52 cockpit without an ejector seat and survive. All around the crash site, Reeves says, local residents continue to find fragments of the plane. There are tales of people still concealing pieces of landing gear and fuselage. Shortly after the crash, Reeves found an entire wooden box of bullets. “They took the box,” he says. “Wouldn’t even let me keep one bullet.” But by far the most significant remnant of that calamitous January night still lies 180 feet or so beneath that cotton field. Although the first bomb floated harmlessly to the ground under its parachute, the second came to a more disastrous end: It plowed into the earth at nearly the speed of sound, sending thousands of pieces burrowing into the ground for hundreds of feet around. The basketball-sized nuclear bomb device was quickly recovered—miraculously intact, its nuclear core uncompromised. The U.S. Government soon announced its safe return and loudly reassured the public that, thanks to the device’s multiple safety systems, the bomb had never come close to exploding. (Related: ) Despite decades of alarmist theories to the contrary, that assessment was probably correct. Like a bungee cord calculated to yank a jumper back mere inches from hitting the ground, the system intervened just in time to prevent a nuclear nightmare. Ironically, it appears that the bomb that drifted gently to earth posed the bigger risk, since its detonating mechanism remained intact. Robert McNamara, who’d been Secretary of Defense at the time of the incident, told reporters in 1983, "The bomb’s arming mechanism had six or seven steps to go through to detonate, and it went through all but one.” “The bottom line for me is the safety mechanisms worked,” says Roy “Doc” Heidicker, the recently retired historian for the Fourth Fighter Wing, which flies out of Johnson Air Force Base. “On the other hand, I know of at least one medical doctor who was considering moving to Goldsboro for a position, but was concerned that it might not be safe because of the Goldsboro broken arrow. So there’s this continuing sense people have: ‘You nearly blew us all up, and you’re not telling us the truth about it.’” But the story of America’s nuclear near-miss isn’t really over, even now. That’s because, even though the government recovered the primary nuclear device, attempts to recover other radioactive remnants of the bomb failed. The main portion of the B-52 plowed into this cotton field, where remnants of one of its two bombs are still buried. PHOTOGRAPH BY BILL NEWCOTT If I were to hold a Geiger counter to the ground of the cotton field in which Billy Reeves and I are standing, chances are it would register nothing unusual. Dirt is a remarkably efficient radiation absorber. But about 180 feet below our shoes, gently radiating away with a half-life of 24,000 years, lies the plutonium core of the bomb’s secondary stage. The bombs in the B-52 weren’t mere Hiroshima-class atomic weapons. They were Mark-39 hydrogen thermonuclear bombs. Each contained not only a conventional spherical atom bomb at its tip, but also a 13-pound rod of plutonium inside a 300-pound compartment filled with the hydrogen isotope lithium-6 deuteride. If you think of the Mark-39 as a pipe bomb, the heat thrown off by the secondary device is the nails and shrapnel that make the initial explosion exponentially more dangerous. Reeves remembers the fleet of massive excavation equipment that was employed as the government tried to dig up the hydrogen core. But the area’s water table was high, and the hole kept filling in. Eventually, the feds gave up. They filled in the hole, drew a 400-foot-radius circle around the epicenter of the impact, and purchased the land inside the circle. The plot is still farmed to this day. Workers just have to refrain from digging more than five feet down. Skimming the tree line beyond the far end of the cotton field, a military plane is coming in on final approach to Johnson Air Force Base. Reeves lives under that flight pattern, and every day brings a memory of that chaotic night in 1961. “When the planes come in, and the windows begin to rattle, I still get the chills,” he says. We trudge across the field toward Big Daddy’s Road, where our vehicles are parked. “Actually, we’ve been really lucky,” he says. “Other than that one, there’s never been another military crash around here.” The muddy ground sucks at our shoes. "Course," he adds, "the one accident we did have dropped a couple of atom bombs on us…" SHARE TWEET COPY READ THIS NEXT The elusive horror of Hiroshima It's hard to fathom the nuclear holocaust that laid waste to this now vibrant city 75 years ago. Twists of fate made Nagasaki a target 75 years ago Did the U.S. plan to drop more than two atomic bombs on Japan? How the advent of nuclear weapons changed the course of history LATEST IN HISTORY & CULTURE Remembering the night two atomic bombs fell—on North Carolina READ READ Our democracy is wounded. 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On Wednesday, 31 March 2021, 10:19:15 BST, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:
I still shudder from watching that Chernobyl series; self sacrifice was the expected thing. Best Susan On 30 Mar 2021, at 14:59, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Trust me Chris I saw it in a documentary. There are some extraordinarily brave & good people & their are some who are outright evil. Remember the fireman at Kings Cross who ran down to save another person & was burnt to death? He probably knew the odds were 100 to1 against, but he went anyway. That was his job. The Chernobyl workers who went into deadly radiation zones I will endeavour to find the information I am not at my best at the moment Regards john |
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开云体育I still shudder from watching that Chernobyl series; self sacrifice was the expected thing.Best Susan On 30 Mar 2021, at 14:59, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Trust me Chris I saw it in a documentary. There are some extraordinarily brave & good people & their are some who are outright evil. Remember the fireman at Kings Cross who ran down to save another person & was burnt to death? He probably knew the odds were 100 to1 against, but he went anyway. That was his job. The Chernobyl workers who went into deadly radiation zones I will endeavour to find the information I am not at my best at the moment Regards john |
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On 30 Mar 2021, at 09:16, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote: Just got email I am to check in on the 6th March and operation early morning 7th. ? I am going to take my iPhone with me if allowed. We are in three day lockdown and Brisbane declared a hot spot ?with new cases to do with funding re Covid. So I am thinking the dates for the hospital might be a moving thing in the circumstances, but I am to sign forms and send back so working on all systems are go anyway. Have warned my husband he might have to drop me off and wont be able to visit and he said he realised that but not happy. I have a surgeon friend who works at the hospital and she said she is going to visit me when she's on which is kind.? Meantime twiddling thumbs and still waiting for Apple to produce that iPad Pro ?:-)? Jude PS Hope you're feeling a bit better John.? ? |
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开云体育Good luck, Jude. ?I’m with you on the iPad Pro, although I might content myself with an Air.Chris (newly ensconced in Dorset)
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开云体育Dreadful things can happen as the speed increases of an aircraft at ejection, Susan. ?The Mk 10 seat as fitted to the Hawk has leg restraints, cords which draw the legs to the seat to reduce their flailing in the air flow as the seat leaves the aircraft. ?But the Mk 10 seat fitted to the Tornado had arm restraints as well, to reduce flailing of the arms. ?The procedure for a well-considered ejection was to reduce speed to the lowest practical, brace the head agains the head box, hold the ejection seat handle with both hands, elbows tucked in, eyes, closed and pull. ?The delay, of microseconds, can be enough for a chap to relax and wonder what was going on.A friend ejected from a Jaguar at quite low level but doing about 400kts with one hand, the other being on the control column. ?He told me afterwards that he had been a little unsure about committing to the measure, but he had just hit a 90ft mast (in Germany, near what used to be the inter-German border) and one engine had burst into flames. ?As the canopy rose from the cockpit at the start of the sequence of ejection the demist pipes conducted the flames from the engine on that side to his arm and face. ?But it was a momentary burst of heat and he was only slightly damaged, although the Nomex material of his flying suit was charred. ?Graham then went to be a test pilot at the Patuxent River Naval Air Station, followed by a tour on the F117 Stealth Fighter, the first foreigner to do so. ?I was on F16s in Florida at the same time. Graham unfortunately died while displaying a Hawk 100 for BAe at Bratislava in 1999. ?He and I (and one other, a chap who flew for Virgin after leaving the RAF) were students on the very first Hawk flying course at RAF Valley in 1977. ?On that course it is very likely that I flew XX189 the Hawk that crashed last week. Finally, John, I tend to treat with come scepticism the idea that a pilot sticks with the aircraft to avoid this or that area on the ground. ?Once the seats have left an aircraft it’s difficult to predict where it will go and it will be a very strong-willed individual who resists the temptation to save him or herself in that dreadful moment. Chris
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On 27 Mar 2021, at 12:46, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: I don't really know how to say this, but the depression as really got overwhelming. Maybe they will have to put me through Electroconvulsive therapy. Just hope I can manage until my GP on Monday John
On Saturday, 27 March 2021, 12:34:25 GMT, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:
Hehehe! Keep it up, John! ?Er… Best Susan On 27 Mar 2021, at 02:22, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Was down in Exeter, when I did my PhD, & there was a lady came on the local news. Reported about a pilot. I think she meant to say he was able to eject safely. What she actually said was he: "He managed to ejaculate safely" Don't know if she was born a dame, or by one by marriage She clearly was a lady John |
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On 27 Mar 2021, at 02:22, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Was down in Exeter, when I did my PhD, & there was a lady came on the local news. Reported about a pilot. I think she meant to say he was able to eject safely. What she actually said was he: "He managed to ejaculate safely" Don't know if she was born a dame, or by one by marriage She clearly was a lady John |
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On 26 Mar 2021, at 20:18, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Well, I was told its generic name was Sildenafil Citrate. Then someone told me it was mycoxaphatlein I didn't get it until I realised it was my cocks a failing! Sorry if I've offended anyone John |
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开云体育We used to have a btinternet email address; I think we must have gone with them after Eclipse. For a while, we both had a Zen account and address but Harvey wanted IMAP and started a Googlemail account. ?I tried it for a year but ended up back with POP3 - is it 3? I’m not good with numbers - didn’t get Maths O-Level! ?:DBest Susan On 26 Mar 2021, at 14:09, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: I was stalked. I had a renal infection. One of the secretaries came in & said: "How she would like to punch me in the kidneys!" My parochial tutor told the departmental tutor this. He gave my notes on depression to the same secretary again. Well, how do you defend a rapist? You say the woman's a sl@g. Discredit the complainant you discredit the complaint. If I failed my complaint would be descrited. It was absolute hell! My exam papers were fixed How I graduated Best of Year, God alone only knows! It's happened many times before: The University is Judge, jury & Executioneer. It got so stinky they had to set up the Office of the Independent Adjudicator. It's a fig leave to cover their corruption. Ask Chris about "Crown immunity" John
On Friday, 26 March 2021, 13:41:16 GMT, zuiko <ftog@...> wrote:
That’s interesting, John! ?Plusnet is doing everything right at present, but it’s taking days to get a Broadband connection. It should be up next Tue.? Chris C M I Barker |?Corscombe | GB On 23 Mar 2021, at 21:23, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hmm that Met copper accused of murder was doing that. Steady on, John, you haven’t killed anyone yet, so don’t start with yourself.Best Susan On 26 Mar 2021, at 13:35, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Dear All, I am at a bit of a loss, to say the least! I was in A & E this morning They did a CT scan of my brain, because I was banging my head against the wall trying to kill myself. The Samaritans have been shut down for 3 months "for inappropriate comments". Goodness knows what that?means, but now I am on my own. I have no one. John |
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开云体育Someone Harvey used to know held the record for the fastest-speed ever ejection from his aircraft, over Australia, I think. He broke almost every bone and was in hospital for ages, of course. Speed of aircraft, not of ejection; I couldn’t quite get that right!Best Susan On 26 Mar 2021, at 11:38, John Miller via <johnmiller051118@...> wrote: Saw on the BBC news about a Hawk Fighter crash in the South West. Thank Goodness, no one was seriously hurt. The pilots will have to have spinal X-rays because of the g-forces involved. I have heard cases of RAF officers staying with the plane & dying, to be sure it didn't hit any civilians. How professional can you get? John |
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On 26 Mar 2021, at 10:05, zuiko <ftog@...> wrote: Yes, indeed! ?And what did our Government know of the atrocities? ?Given that Thatcher harboured the Chilean dictator Pinochet, did she sympathise with the Junta? Chris
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On 26 Mar 2021, at 10:01, zuiko <ftog@...> wrote: Good luck, girl. ?I hope that there are enjoyable bits to the process and that the result is all you could want. Chris
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