A General Note about M365 and MS Office and its auto-update feature - Do not trust it to be timely in the way most others are . . .
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As a general note when it comes to M365 or Office as a whole, do not rely on its auto-update feature to keep things 100% up to date in a timely manner.? It just doesn't.? When you're having issues with either of these it's worth trying a manual update (Alt + F, D, R, U).? I know that I just did a manual update less than a month ago, and triggering another now, it's found another set of updates.? M365/Office both have never been as "on top of things" with auto-update as most programs that have that feature are.
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If that doesn't work to fix an issue, then try?
? These are things that any screen reader user needs to know, and sometimes neither works if there is a bug in Office/M365 or the screen reader itself.? Also there are plenty of times where the screen reader is just ever so slightly behind schedule to match up functionality with a published change by Microsoft.? It's rare, but it happens, and those lags tend to get fixed pretty promptly if they effect commonly used features. --
Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 11:17 AM, Governor staten wrote:
I've tried this combo in word, and it doesn't work at all. -
Then one of two things:
1. You're doing something wrong.
2. You're using a version of MS-Office that predates Office 2019 (possibly 2016)
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Alt + F? ? ?File Backstage View
D? ? ? ? ? ? ? Account
R? ? ? ? ? ? ? Update Options
U? ? ? ? ? ? ? Update now
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The sequence is present in the 365 versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook Classic.? I literally just checked in all four programs.? I believe that I used this same sequence in Office 2016, but no longer have that to test with.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
开云体育I just tried here. I have an Office 365 subscription dating back to 2016 and it works fine. Alt F, D, R, U. ? |
开云体育Indeed, not for me either. This has been the case since approximately early September. They have modified the menus slightly, so now you need to press Alt plus F, navigate to More Options, expand that, then go to Account, and finally to Update. After that, the process remains unchanged. I have repaired Office to ensure everything is in order, and the process has indeed changed on my system. Microsoft? Word for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2412 Build 16.0.18324.20092) 64-bit. On 1/14/2025 8:17 AM, Governor staten
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---------- Sarah Alawami, owner of flying Blind.???to read my story.? Microsoft Windows Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621) workstation AMD64 [64 bit]
NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit]
Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit]
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 01:30 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Indeed, not for me either. This has been the case since approximately early September. They have modified the menus slightly, -
I don't think Microsoft has modified the menus.? The default menu can and does get longer, and a "More options" option appears, if the end user has fetched additional add-ins (and, possibly, for other reasons based upon end-user configuration choices).
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After hitting Alt + F, here are the entries in a completely unmodified Word 365 File Backstage View.? I have included a blank line where the separators are for the sections:
Home
New Open Share ?
Get Add-ins
Info Save a Copy Export Transform Close ?
Account
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If you have anything in addition to those twelve, including a "More Options" rather than just the Account and Options items, it is because some end user customization has been done that adds menu entries.? I also checked that the above is true on my partner's computer under Word 365, as he's entirely tech illiterate and relies on me for any changes, so no changes have been done on his M365/Word 365 or I would have done them.
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I am using precisely the same release of M365 you are, but have never done any customizations that trigger any changes to the File Backstage View.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 03:04 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
How often should you check for updates? -
Whenever you feel like it or whenever something that was behaving stops behaving.? There is no set rule here.
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It's not that auto-update in M365 never auto-updates, but the checking is not nearly as vigorous as it is with many programs that check for, and will apply or nag you to apply, updates each and every time they're started.? I don't know why this is, but it's been this way for as long as I can remember in Office and M365.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
开云体育I do not recall making any customizations, but perhaps Adobe did, as I observe this. File? list under options, I see
Upon updating Adobe, which I seldom use, I believe that may have
been when the issue arose. I rarely, if ever, modify the options
menu. It is possible that Adobe added some features to my menu
without my knowledge. Interestingly, when I access the options,
the keystroke still indicates Alt + F, D, R, U.
Sarah Alawami | Salesforce Administrator | Accessibility
Consultant | Educator
On 1/14/2025 8:23 AM, Brian Vogel via
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---------- Sarah Alawami, owner of flying Blind.???to read my story.? Microsoft Windows Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621) workstation AMD64 [64 bit]
NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit]
Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit]
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Sarah,
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As a side question, do you have AutoSave enabled since you're a OneDrive user, or not?
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It's odd for me to see a "Save as" option these days as if OneDrive AutoSave is on (and I use it and adore it) that is replaced with Save a Copy, which is what you're doing, under a different name.
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And, yes, Adobe Acrobat paid versions do add options to the File Backstage view secondary to installing PDF related add-ins.? That explains why you have a non-standard key sequence to get to a manual update.? Anyone who has installed something that changes the File Backstage view can end up having key sequences change as the number of entries there increases.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
开云体育No, I do not use OneDrive except for storage. To my knowledge, I do not have any paid Adobe options. Perhaps one of the free options caused something. Regarding updates, I generally check every Thursday or so and usually notice that there is something to install. That is, once a week, though it does not necessarily have to be on a Thursday.
Sarah Alawami | Salesforce Administrator | Accessibility
Consultant | Educator
On 1/14/2025 2:27 PM, Brian Vogel via
groups.io wrote:
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---------- Sarah Alawami, owner of flying Blind.???to read my story.? Microsoft Windows Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621) workstation AMD64 [64 bit]
NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit]
Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit]
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