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Just as there's been lots of discussion of New Outlook here, there's lots of discussion regarding it elsewhere, too, particularly on one forum I'm on for IT technicians.
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For the longest time, I could only have Outlook open either using the New Outlook UI or the classic, using the toggle to go back and forth between the two.? It appears that now both "skins" of Outlook are available directly, and you can find them via Windows search, using the correct "(X"? right after Outlook where that X will be either c for classic or n for new.
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You are also able to run both side by side, simultaneously, which will be a big plus during the learning period.? I had not been able to have side-by-side instances of both New Outlook and Outlook Classic running and today was the first time that worked for me.? It's come about sometime over the last month or so.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym.
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I hope some time there is a tutorial.? Why?? Because I enabled? outlook N, and it only showed me one of my email addresses, not this one.? So how would one switch email addresses??
This one is the default email, so I muse why the N outlook went to another email address.?
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Subject: [M365-Accessibility] The choice of "Outlook (classic)" and "Outlook (new)" should both be available under M365 Family (and probably Personal) at this time
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Just as there's been lots of discussion of New Outlook here, there's lots of discussion regarding it elsewhere, too, particularly on one forum I'm on for IT technicians.
For the longest time, I could only have Outlook open either using the New Outlook UI or the classic, using the toggle to go back and forth between the two.? It appears that now both "skins" of Outlook are available directly, and you can
find them via Windows search, using the correct "(X"? right after Outlook were that X will be either c for classic or n for new.
You are also able to run both side by side, simultaneously, which will be a big plus during the learning period.? I had not been able to have side-by-side instances of both New Outlook and Outlook Classic running and today was the first
time that worked for me.? It's come about sometime over the last month or so.
Brian?
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Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family;
Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to
have a gym.
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New York Times Op-Ed,
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June 18, 2019
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Then make certain to enter "Outlook (new)" in its entirety as the search (sans quotes, of course).
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It sounds like you opened Outlook for Windows, which is the replacement for the Windows 10/11 Mail, Calendar, and People apps and with a UI that's virtually indistinguishable from New Outlook.? However, the accounts set up in New Outlook and Outlook Classic should be one and the same, while what's set up in Outlook for Windows may or may not be, as it is its own world.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym.
????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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My point.? Without a comprehensive coverage of New Outlook possibilities for screen reader users, it is absolutely irresponsible to advice in favor of is usage ?for daily activities. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] The choice of "Outlook (classic)" and "Outlook (new)" should both be available under M365 Family (and probably Personal) at this time? I hope some time there is a tutorial.? Why?? Because I enabled? outlook N, and it only showed me one of my email addresses, not this one.? So how would one switch email addresses?? This one is the default email, so I muse why the N outlook went to another email address.? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
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Subject: [M365-Accessibility] The choice of "Outlook (classic)" and "Outlook (new)" should both be available under M365 Family (and probably Personal) at this time ? Just as there's been lots of discussion of New Outlook here, there's lots of discussion regarding it elsewhere, too, particularly on one forum I'm on for IT technicians. For the longest time, I could only have Outlook open either using the New Outlook UI or the classic, using the toggle to go back and forth between the two.? It appears that now both "skins" of Outlook are available directly, and you can find them via Windows search, using the correct "(X"? right after Outlook were that X will be either c for classic or n for new. You are also able to run both side by side, simultaneously, which will be a big plus during the learning period.? I had not been able to have side-by-side instances of both New Outlook and Outlook Classic running and today was the first time that worked for me.? It's come about sometime over the last month or so. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 04:20 PM, Leo Bado wrote:
My point.? Without a comprehensive coverage of New Outlook possibilities for screen reader users, it is absolutely irresponsible to advice in favor of is usage ?for daily activities.
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Leo, just stop.? You seem to think that anyone, blind or sighted, is presented with comprehensive tutorials of any given thing before they're forced to use them.? Well, that's never been so, ever.
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In the case of New Outlook, no one is forcing anyone to use it.? Those of us who have long history with these rollouts are strongly encouraging those who feel the desire to play with New Outlook, alongside Outlook Classic, during the 4 years both will be available.
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There has already been at least one member, I seem to recall several, who have already transitioned to New Outlook entirely of their own choosing.? Just because you intensely dislike it does not make your opinion the only one that matters.
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You are the one being irresponsible, so stop.? And this is coming directly from a group moderator speaking in that role, not me speaking as a member.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym.
????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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Brian, With all due respect, the new Outlook is a half baked product. Neither Microsoft nor FS have said it has accessibility or feature parity with the classic Outlook.? I will be avoiding it until it does. There are multiple years until it becomes the go to Outlook, at least 2029 for M365.? Until then, closer to 2029 it should be more polished. ?
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] The choice of "Outlook (classic)" and "Outlook (new)" should both be available under M365 Family (and probably Personal) at this time? On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 04:20 PM, Leo Bado wrote: My point.? Without a comprehensive coverage of New Outlook possibilities for screen reader users, it is absolutely irresponsible to advice in favor of is usage ?for daily activities.
Leo, just stop.? You seem to thing that anyone, blind or sighted, is presented with comprehensive tutorials of any given thing before they're forced to use them.? Well, that's never been so, ever. In the case of New Outlook, no one is forcing anyone to use it.? Those of us who have long history with these rollouts are strongly encouraging those who feel the desire to play with New Outlook, alongside Outlook Classic, during the 4 years both will be available. There has already been at least one member, I seem to recall several, who have already transitioned to New Outlook entirely of their own choosing.? Just because you intensely dislike it does not make your opinion the only one that matters. You are the one being irresponsible, so stop.? And this is coming directly from a group moderator speaking in that role, not me speaking as a member. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 08:17 PM, enes sar?ba? wrote:
With all due respect, the new Outlook is a half baked product.
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Never said it wasn't.? I have not been a cheerleader of any sort for New Outlook.? But since I've been "on top of it" since preview, I also know how far its come.
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I'm currently sticking with Outlook Classic myself, but I'm thrilled that I can now run it side-by-side with New Outlook as it makes it so much easier to compare and contrast how the two work and whether New Outlook is getting features that have long been available in Outlook Classic.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym.
????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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