Re: The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs
Diana,
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Several basic points:
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1. One can move between subscription levels (for lack of a better way of putting it) in M365 Personal or Family at will.? It's unfortunate that the method used to do so involves canceling one's current subscription and picking up another, as that does imply an interruption in service, but there is no interruption of service.? Only if you cancel - just cancel - and don't pick up a different subscription level will you lose service.? If you follow the previously posted instructions to cancel your existing M365 service, and during that process enroll in the Classic level, then things just stay as they are and your billing will remain as it is, with the same services as you currently have, at the point of your next renewal date.? Ahead of that date the main subscriber still has the free trial.
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2. M365 Personal and Family, even if they expire, allow 30 days (as of this writing) of access to OneDrive for the now-expired subscription in read-only mode so that existing data can be downloaded.? After that 30 days passes, it's gone.? If you re-up during that 30 days, you just have read-write access to OneDrive restored.
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
When I checked on the sub, it appears to only be for the new subscription price, not classic.? I only saw two listed, one for family and one for personal. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of enes saribas via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2025 1:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.? Hi William, I did sign up for it, but looks like I lost the discounted rate because it says I will be charged $69 in 2025 for personal.? Can you confirm you lose it when switching to O365 personal classic? ? ? I would like to add a couple things to what David said. ? Besides the new CoPilot working with the new Outlook, it only works with Microsoft addresses.? Hotmail.com, outlook.com, msn.com, live.com. ? Second, if you have an agreement between your employer and Microsoft, I would recommend signing up for the ? My employer offers this and you get 30% off M365 subs.? This would take your family sub down to $90 annually, so you would actually be paying a bit less than you did before the price hike. ? ? Hi all, A couple of points. First, as I understand, Copilot only works with the New Outlook, not Classic. Second, regarding Word, yes you? can give it prompts to create documents, but you can create similar prompts with a whole bunch of free AI apps. You can then copy results to the clipboard and paste into Word. You will have to touch up formatting using one of these, while Word with Copilot does a good job of formatting, including inserting headings. But if you are comfortable formatting Word docs, this is not much extra work. Regarding a number of things Copilot can purportedly do with Excel and PowerPoint, no free AI app has the capability to do most of this. My first two points are not meant to disparage Copilot. I have MS 365, like the integration they have introduced, and personally, will have no problem paying the extra $30 when my subscription renews. David ? ?
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Re: The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs
I am not the owner of our family subscription, my husband is. I don't mind that I won't have access to copilot. We haven't started the process, but I want to have all my ducks accounted for before I do. If we cancel our subscription, in order to downgrade to Classic, I assume we will lose everything in our separate OneDrives, so we need to back them up somewhere first, correct? Also, if my husband does do process first, I will lose my access at that time and he will need to add me on to the new account, yes? I pologize if these seem obvious questions, i just want to have thought this through before we go into it. Thanks for any clarifications you can provide.?
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
Quote it appears this only works from within Microsoft email accounts
Unquote ? Yes David, you’re right! In my case it only works in my main Hotmail.com? account, a year ago I thought this could change in the future , but apparently Microsoft thinks otherwise. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? ? Hi all, I stand corrected on my comment that Copilot only works with the New Outlook. But it appears this only works from within Microsoft email accounts such as outlook.com. If I am right this time, it seems to be of limited value if your primary email account is Gmail or something other than an MS account. When I tried to start up Copilot from my Gmail account, nothing happened. When I asked it to summarize my Gmail messages from within my Outlook email account, it said this was not possible. I can still draft messages from my Outlook.com account and send from another of my email accounts, so this is useful.? David
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Re: The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs
Not sure if it is because I'm in Canada, when I follow the instructions, there is no option to downgrade.
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
On the subject of subscription rates:? Most of us can only comment on Microsoft's rates for "the general public" based on our place of residence.? Programs like the mentioned by William James are negotiated between the employer and Microsoft and are supposed to be (in theory, anyway) only available to employees.? I say in theory mostly because most who subscribe through these do not terminate their own subscription through such arrangements if they change jobs, and I've never know of one to be terminated by Microsoft or the now-former employer.
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If you've got a rate below what's offered to the general public through any of Microsoft's discount programs I'd await some sort of communication from Microsoft about what rate changes, if any, will occur at your next renewal date and/or whether or not Copilot will become part of your subscription.? Since Copilot remains a "per seat" subscription for business, I am doubting that the subscriptions offered through Workplace Discount are going to have Copilot AI integration, as it would probably still be an add-on.
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
Hi all,
I stand corrected on my comment that Copilot only works with the New Outlook. But it appears this only works from within Microsoft email accounts such as outlook.com. If I am right this time, it seems to be of limited value if your primary email account is Gmail or something other than an MS account. When I tried to start up Copilot from my Gmail account, nothing happened. When I asked it to summarize my Gmail messages from within my Outlook email account, it said this was not possible. I can still draft messages from my Outlook.com account and send from another of my email accounts, so this is useful.?
David
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Re: JAWS freezing with long messages much better in New Outlook
I have never experienced almost the totality of all the issues continuously reported in this mailing list or other forums using Outlook classic, e.g., issues synchronizing Gmail accounts, attaching files from explorer, messages containing links, images, tables, incoming messages not syncing as expected, clumsiness navigating lists of messages, client sending legit messages into the junk folder, and a long etc. Question that rises up is why? Hmm, got a few ideas, but I’ll reserve my opinion. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2025 7:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS freezing with long messages much better in New Outlook? I don’t use Windows a lot, but when I do, I don’t want to experience these stability issues while simply trying to read incoming mail. Like you, I encountered them in Outlook Classic, but the New Outlook for Microsoft 365 has resolved them. Outlook Classic also used to become completely unresponsive at times while reading message lists, although I hadn’t experienced that issue recently. In any case, this isn’t a problem with the New Outlook either. In summary, I’m not going back to Outlook Classic. ? With the chance to try Copilot in the New Outlook, I went ahead and switched from Outlook Classic to New Outlook. One thing I've noticed is?that the issue where JAWS, NVDA and Narrator hang on messages with a lot of links, tables and more is pretty much non-existent with the New Outlook. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA ?
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Re: JAWS freezing with long messages much better in New Outlook
I don’t use Windows a lot, but when I do, I don’t want to experience these stability issues while simply trying to read incoming mail. Like you, I encountered them in Outlook Classic, but the New Outlook for
Microsoft 365 has resolved them.
Outlook Classic also used to become completely unresponsive at times while reading message lists, although I hadn’t experienced that issue recently. In any case, this isn’t a problem with the New Outlook either.
In summary, I’m not going back to Outlook Classic.
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With the chance to try Copilot in the New Outlook, I went ahead and switched from Outlook Classic to New Outlook. One thing I've noticed is?that the issue where JAWS, NVDA and Narrator hang on messages with a lot
of links, tables and more is pretty much non-existent with the New Outlook.
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
Hi William, I did sign up for it, but looks like I lost the discounted rate because it says I will be charged $69 in 2025 for personal.? Can you confirm you lose it when switching to O365 personal classic? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William James via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 9:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.? I would like to add a couple things to what David said. ? Besides the new CoPilot working with the new Outlook, it only works with Microsoft addresses.? Hotmail.com, outlook.com, msn.com, live.com. ? Second, if you have an agreement between your employer and Microsoft, I would recommend signing up for the ? My employer offers this and you get 30% off M365 subs.? This would take your family sub down to $90 annually, so you would actually be paying a bit less than you did before the price hike. ? ? Hi all, A couple of points. First, as I understand, Copilot only works with the New Outlook, not Classic. Second, regarding Word, yes you? can give it prompts to create documents, but you can create similar prompts with a whole bunch of free AI apps. You can then copy results to the clipboard and paste into Word. You will have to touch up formatting using one of these, while Word with Copilot does a good job of formatting, including inserting headings. But if you are comfortable formatting Word docs, this is not much extra work. Regarding a number of things Copilot can purportedly do with Excel and PowerPoint, no free AI app has the capability to do most of this. My first two points are not meant to disparage Copilot. I have MS 365, like the integration they have introduced, and personally, will have no problem paying the extra $30 when my subscription renews. David ? ?
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
I think I did that correct when I was playint with this. I'm
curious to run my notes from a class I took through this as I
didn't spell check or nothign, ok I did, but i transcribed the
lectures and have about 10 pages for 6 hours of classes. I'm very
interested now. or take a? transcript and run that through. Hmm.
tomorrow as I'm very, very tired.
Happy sunday all.
On 1/19/2025 12:49 PM, Leo Bado via
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Step by
step:
- Select the portion of text. I
have never done it by selecting a large portion of text.
- Push alt plus I to bring up
Copilot’s options.
- Choose write a prompt.
- Provide detailed instructions on
what you want to focus, e.g., “proofread this text and
change any clumsy phrase by natural phrases according to
pragmatics in American English.
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Remember!?
The more direct, specific, and detailed the instruction, the
better results you will get.
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Cheers,
Leo Bado.
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"Beware
of he who would deny you access to information, for in his
heart he dreams himself your master."
Pravin
Lal.
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I have a question about the
proofreading feature. I clicked the "prompt" button after
selecting my text, but I'm not sure how it's supposed to work,
as I didn't notice any changes in my text after going through
my five pages of notes. I'll read the article later since I'm
not quite alert enough to fully understand what I'm reading
right now. Haha. I'm really enjoying what I've seen so far.
Yes, I need to correct a few things, and that's okay. It saves
me hours of work when I'm taking notes.
Thanks and happy Sunday.
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On 1/19/2025
7:05 AM, Leo Bado via groups.io wrote:
I used Copilot within Microsoft
Word and PowerPoint for 8 months. Advantages for using
Copilot in this context highly depend on your workflow.
Here’s what I used to do:
in MS Word:
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1.????? Drafting. A precise prompt is
absolutely pivotal to get a good result in this regard.
For instance, you can tell Copilot to help you create a
draft of an article or composition explaining a specific
concept. It is really helpful if you write an outline and
give explicit orders such as, “for each category or
subcategory related to this concept, provide clear and
detailed illustrative examples in the context in which one
should apply actions.” Remember that you have 2000
characters, so you can pretty much specify your
instructions.
2.????? Creating a table. You can
actually ask Copilot to create a table containing specific
information. You can specify numbers of columns and
categories. For instance, “create a table containing all
the screen readers widely used in Windows; include
characteristics, short history, hardware requirements,
worldwide usage statistics, advantages and disadvantages.”
3.????? Organize a table. This option is
pretty similar to the previous one, but you should already
have the information that Copilot is going to organize
contained in a document, then you just highlight or select
the information and push alt plus I to bring up the
options or organize it in a table.
4.????? Rewrite. This basically rephrase
the text that you previously selected.
5.????? Resume and ask questions about a
document. This is basically the process of looking for
ideas and how they relate to other ideas in the document
or in general.
6.????? Proofreading. Yes, select the
text and ask Copilot to proofread your selection. You can
specify what kind of errors or mistakes you want to focus
on. For instance, sometimes, being a non native speaker, I
ask Copilot to correct any expression in terms of
pragmatics, but one can actually do it for any other
linguistic category, world-choice, refined vocabulary,
punctuation, etc.
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In
PowerPoint:
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1.????? Creating presentations from a
document.? Now, when you launch Copilot and choose a blank
template, PowerPoint will prompt you to choose among two
or three options, one of these being create a presentation
from a file. The Copilot pane will pop up, so all you have
to do is completing the instruction that reads, “create a
presentation from the following file,” or something like
that. Followed this instruction, I paste the link of the
document. This file must have been saved in OneDrive.
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There are many other ways in
which Copilot in M365 is helpful, but it is for the user
to be discovered according to their own needs.? Remember
that Copilot will give you back what you asked for, so
prompts are quite essential to get the results you expect.
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Cheers,
Leo Bado.
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"Beware
of he who would deny you access to information, for in
his heart he dreams himself your master."
Pravin
Lal.
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Hello Everyone,
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Before I make
my final decision if I want to pay $30.00 more a year for
Copilot I would greatly appreciate if someone can tell me
what I could do by using Copilot with MS 365? Outlook?
What could I
use Copilot for when I use MS Word?
I am currently
using MS 365 personal.
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Kindly,
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Janet.
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JAWS freezing with long messages much better in New Outlook
With the chance to try Copilot in the New Outlook, I went ahead and switched from Outlook Classic to New Outlook. One thing I've noticed is?that the issue where JAWS, NVDA and Narrator hang on messages with a lot of links, tables and more is pretty much non-existent
with the New Outlook.
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--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
I would like to add a couple things to what David said. ? Besides the new CoPilot working with the new Outlook, it only works with Microsoft addresses.? Hotmail.com, outlook.com, msn.com, live.com. ? Second, if you have an agreement between your employer and Microsoft, I would recommend signing up for the ? My employer offers this and you get 30% off M365 subs.? This would take your family sub down to $90 annually, so you would actually be paying a bit less than you did before the price hike. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 10:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.? Hi all, A couple of points. First, as I understand, Copilot only works with the New Outlook, not Classic. Second, regarding Word, yes you? can give it prompts to create documents, but you can create similar prompts with a whole bunch of free AI apps. You can then copy results to the clipboard and paste into Word. You will have to touch up formatting using one of these, while Word with Copilot does a good job of formatting, including inserting headings. But if you are comfortable formatting Word docs, this is not much extra work. Regarding a number of things Copilot can purportedly do with Excel and PowerPoint, no free AI app has the capability to do most of this. My first two points are not meant to disparage Copilot. I have MS 365, like the integration they have introduced, and personally, will have no problem paying the extra $30 when my subscription renews. David ? ?
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Well, I agree. Sometimes I explicitly recommend this because users tend to be vague. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.? On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 03:49 PM, Leo Bado wrote: Remember!? The more direct, specific, and detailed the instruction, the better results you will get.
I'll take issue with this assertion, but only "at the edges" rather than its core truth. When it comes to AI prompts to do anything, generally speaking, what you say is true, without question.? But, and it's an important one, it is possible to, at times, get overly specific, and that gets you a result not precisely like you wanted. You have to then play with the prompt to remove what you suspect was "overly specific" to allow a freer hand. It's not at all unlike what one does to craft a good web search or a good AI search prompt.? Sometimes you start broad and then narrow down by adding specificity.? Sometimes you start with extreme specificity and then remove bits that restrict one at a time until the necessary results appear. Depending on exactly what it is I'm trying to accomplish, I will start out with fewer specifics than I think I'll ultimately need, or with more specifics than I suspect I'll ultimately want.? It's an art crafting these prompts, rather than a hard science. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: Onedrive: backing up all folders to it
Pranav,
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Also, if she really wants the equivalent of a separate partition, then you could set up folders under OneDrive Personal outside of the libraries, and then save user data there.
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I don't do that except for folders I've created specifically to share with other OneDrive users, where those folders act like a thumb drive in the cloud.? If I plop a file in that folder, those with whom I've shared it have instant (or almost, it has to sync) access to what I just put in it, and vice versa.? This is one of the really nice features of OneDrive when multiple people who are not necessarily even in the same OneDrive family, but all of whom are OneDrive users, need to have access to a file or need to share very large files that are impractical to attach to email messages.? I just ripped several albums earlier today and, after applying MP3Gain Album Gain to all of them, plopped the results in my sharing folder with my partner so he could just snag them directly into his music library.? No thumb drive or SD card or 3rd party file sharing service needed.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: Onedrive: backing up all folders to it
On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 07:34 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
The different drives
are in place so that we separate the operating system from data.
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Which, I have to say, is really unnecessary, particularly if those logical drives are partitions of one physical drive.? If that physical drive fails, everything fails, not just one partition.? And if it's an SSD then the probability of getting things back is small and the cost very expensive indeed.? There was a time, a long time ago, when I used to separate the OS drive from the user data, but I stopped doing that long ago because most people don't have separate physical drives, they're just partitioning one device, and that really gains nothing from that separation.
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Your best bet (for any you) as a home user is to stick to the default configuration that M365 sets up for OneDrive as far as Documents, Photos, & Music libraries go.? If you really don't want something in one of those libraries, provided you create a subfolder under your own OneDrive Personal folder on the computer it automatically syncs to OneDrive in the cloud.
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I have 16 folders that I created under OneDrive, and one for my Portable Programs in particular, that all sync to OneDrive.? This makes it possible for me to call any of my portable programs on any machine where I'm logged in and using OneDrive, because the Portable Programs folder is shared and synced among all of them.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Onedrive: backing up all folders to it
Hi all,
My wife has a Dell precision 5060 laptop running windows 11 pro. She is a
subscriber to my Microsoft office 365 family plan.
She has the laptop's hard drive partitioned into 3 separate partitions.
Drive c is the operating system drive and drives d and e are for data.
She wants to save her files on different drives but wants to backup
everything to one drive.
Can this be done or does everything going to one drive have to be saved in
the username\"documents and settings"\onedrive folder?
One way I was thinking of doing this is to simlink the other drives to the
onedrive folder. Would that work? Would subfolders be captured?
Is there a better way?
She wants onedrive for features like version history. The different drives
are in place so that we separate the operating system from data.
Pranav
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Re: The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs
Great point Brian; I will give my customer the options. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs? I have no idea.? But when Microsoft gives a specific method, and says that the availability of a given plan "Classic" may be withdrawn later, I use the method they specify. There could be 20 ways to opt out, for all I know, but I will stick with the downgrade to the Classic version of the M365 Family or Personal subscriptions since it's so darned easy to do. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 03:49 PM, Leo Bado wrote:
Remember!? The more direct, specific, and detailed the instruction, the better results you will get.
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I'll take issue with this assertion, but only "at the edges" rather than its core truth.
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When it comes to AI prompts to do anything, generally speaking, what you say is true, without question.? But, and it's an important one, it is possible to, at times, get overly specific, and that gets you a result not precisely like you wanted.
?
You have to then play with the prompt to remove what you suspect was "overly specific" to allow a freer hand.
?
It's not at all unlike what one does to craft a good web search or a good AI search prompt.? Sometimes you start broad and then narrow down by adding specificity.? Sometimes you start with extreme specificity and then remove bits that restrict one at a time until the necessary results appear.
?
Depending on exactly what it is I'm trying to accomplish, I will start out with fewer specifics than I think I'll ultimately need, or with more specifics than I suspect I'll ultimately want.? It's an art crafting these prompts, rather than a hard science.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.
Oops, I forgot to mention ?that once you hit enter on the generate button and wait a few seconds, then the focus of the cursor will fall onto the Copilot window, so you will have to push F6 two or three times to get to the body of the text. At this point, if you move up or down, you will notice that there is a duplicate of the portion of text you selected, but somehow containing the modifications if any. To jump onto the dialogue again, you push F6. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] A Question Regarding Copilot in MS 365 Please.? Step by step: ??????????????? Select the portion of text. I have never done it by selecting a large portion of text. ??????????????? Push alt plus I to bring up Copilot’s options. ??????????????? Choose write a prompt. ??????????????? Provide detailed instructions on what you want to focus, e.g., “proofread this text and change any clumsy phrase by natural phrases according to pragmatics in American English. ? Remember!? The more direct, specific, and detailed the instruction, the better results you will get. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? ? I have a question about the proofreading feature. I clicked the "prompt" button after selecting my text, but I'm not sure how it's supposed to work, as I didn't notice any changes in my text after going through my five pages of notes. I'll read the article later since I'm not quite alert enough to fully understand what I'm reading right now. Haha. I'm really enjoying what I've seen so far. Yes, I need to correct a few things, and that's okay. It saves me hours of work when I'm taking notes.
Thanks and happy Sunday.
Sarah Alawami | Salesforce Administrator | Accessibility Consultant | Educator
Follow me on On 1/19/2025 7:05 AM, Leo Bado via groups.io wrote: I used Copilot within Microsoft Word and PowerPoint for 8 months. Advantages for using Copilot in this context highly depend on your workflow. Here’s what I used to do: in MS Word:? 1.????? Drafting. A precise prompt is absolutely pivotal to get a good result in this regard. For instance, you can tell Copilot to help you create a draft of an article or composition explaining a specific concept. It is really helpful if you write an outline and give explicit orders such as, “for each category or subcategory related to this concept, provide clear and detailed illustrative examples in the context in which one should apply actions.” Remember that you have 2000 characters, so you can pretty much specify your instructions. 2.????? Creating a table. You can actually ask Copilot to create a table containing specific information. You can specify numbers of columns and categories. For instance, “create a table containing all the screen readers widely used in Windows; include characteristics, short history, hardware requirements, worldwide usage statistics, advantages and disadvantages.” 3.????? Organize a table. This option is pretty similar to the previous one, but you should already have the information that Copilot is going to organize contained in a document, then you just highlight or select the information and push alt plus I to bring up the options or organize it in a table. 4.????? Rewrite. This basically rephrase the text that you previously selected. 5.????? Resume and ask questions about a document. This is basically the process of looking for ideas and how they relate to other ideas in the document or in general. 6.????? Proofreading. Yes, select the text and ask Copilot to proofread your selection. You can specify what kind of errors or mistakes you want to focus on. For instance, sometimes, being a non native speaker, I ask Copilot to correct any expression in terms of pragmatics, but one can actually do it for any other linguistic category, world-choice, refined vocabulary, punctuation, etc. ? In PowerPoint:? 1.????? Creating presentations from a document.? Now, when you launch Copilot and choose a blank template, PowerPoint will prompt you to choose among two or three options, one of these being create a presentation from a file. The Copilot pane will pop up, so all you have to do is completing the instruction that reads, “create a presentation from the following file,” or something like that. Followed this instruction, I paste the link of the document. This file must have been saved in OneDrive. ? There are many other ways in which Copilot in M365 is helpful, but it is for the user to be discovered according to their own needs.? Remember that Copilot will give you back what you asked for, so prompts are quite essential to get the results you expect. ? ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? ? Hello Everyone, ? Before I make my final decision if I want to pay $30.00 more a year for Copilot I would greatly appreciate if someone can tell me what I could do by using Copilot with MS 365? Outlook? What could I use Copilot for when I use MS Word? I am currently using MS 365 personal. ? Kindly, ? Janet. ? ? ?
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