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How to create IEC 61000-4-5 surge waveform in time & s behavioral ?


 

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On 17/03/2025 03:40, ericsson.sunshine via groups.io wrote:
Just to note, in the latest LTspice 24.1.5, it will have the following message... It seems 'SCOPEDATA=' is forced to replace the 'file='.
Looks like, compatible issue between newer & older...was used to the older XVII...
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"Monotonically increasing value expected. You may want to use SCOPEDATA=<filename> instead. (See the LTspice help for more details.)
1.00E-09,0.9088###>
1.00E-09<###,0.9110"
The look-up table has been updated for increased precision. New zip uploaded.

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Regards,
Tony


 

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On 18/03/2025 08:27, emilien.sabard via groups.io wrote:
Same thing with 24.1.4
C:\Users\NAME\Documents\Simulation\ESD\IEC_61000-4-2_Test (1)\IEC_61000-4-2.inc(201): Monotonically increasing value expected.
1.00E-09,0.9088###>
1.00E-09<###,0.9110
The look-up table has been updated for increased precision. New zip uploaded.

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Regards,
Tony


 

On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 07:28 PM, Tony Casey wrote:
On 17/03/2025 03:40, ericsson.sunshine via groups.io wrote:
Just to note, in the latest LTspice 24.1.5, it will have the following message... It seems 'SCOPEDATA=' is forced to replace the 'file='.
Looks like, compatible issue between newer & older...was used to the older XVII...
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"Monotonically increasing value expected. You may want to use SCOPEDATA=<filename> instead. (See the LTspice help for more details.)
1.00E-09,0.9088###>
1.00E-09<###,0.9110"
The look-up table has been updated for increased precision. New zip uploaded.

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Regards,
Tony
Hi, Tony:
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Thank you for your update. you are so kind.
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For a little while, I was worried that the new version will bring new issue of those 'Don't look up' problems.
You give me hope.
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I am grateful.
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Thank you very much.
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I added two photos that show how to construct the waveform both in Simulink and
SPICE. ( Photos directory /g/LTspice/album?id=301365 )

The key problem is that neither Simulink nor LTspice allow to construct the Laplace transform of a waveform.
They only provide a way to construct a transfer function.
For LTspice it was an interesting learning moment as I had never before needed to manipulate the two parameters
of the Laplace function (Window and NFFT). They still work in 17.1.5.

-marcel


 

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 08:24 PM, <mhx@...> wrote:
I added two photos that show how to construct the waveform both in Simulink and
SPICE. ( Photos directory /g/LTspice/album?id=301365 )

The key problem is that neither Simulink nor LTspice allow to construct the Laplace transform of a waveform.
They only provide a way to construct a transfer function.
For LTspice it was an interesting learning moment as I had never before needed to manipulate the two parameters
of the Laplace function (Window and NFFT). They still work in 17.1.5.

-marcel
Hi, Marcel:
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Thank you for the sharing.?
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One thing that's strange is, the coefficient of 's' seems much different than that converted by ChatGPT or Matlab.?
"1/3.5e6*s + 1" vs. "s + 3.5e6" & "1/0.14e6*s + 1" vs. "s + 0.14e6" two terms have multiplied by '1/3.5e6' & '1/0.14e6'.
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That's interesting ...
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Best regards.


 

One thing that's strange is, the coefficient of 's' seems much different than that converted by ChatGPT or Matlab.
Mentioning ChatGPT and MATLAB in the same sentence takes courage? I am quite sure MATLAB did not tell you
how to *solve* the direct question, it only provided the *means* to find an answer.

-marcel


 

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 10:53 PM, <mhx@...> wrote:
One thing that's strange is, the coefficient of 's' seems much different than that converted by ChatGPT or Matlab.
Mentioning ChatGPT and MATLAB in the same sentence takes courage? I am quite sure MATLAB did not tell you
how to *solve* the direct question, it only provided the *means* to find an answer.

-marcel
Hi, Marcel:
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It's not about courage, it's about truth of math. Besides the means mentioned previously.
All I can find the relation is 'laplace(exp^(at)) = 1/(s-a)'. That's why I can't understand.
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Best regards.