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Parts Number Re-numbering


 

Sorry for FAQ.
How can I renumber the parts number?
I heard "shift+ctrl+alt+R" is available.
But no change appear.
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Hidehiko JA9MAT.


 

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Right-click on the number, such as R1. An editing pane opens where you can change it to anything you like, within reason.

On 2025-03-16 23:36, Hidehiko Komachi - JA9MAT via groups.io wrote:
Sorry for FAQ.
How can I renumber the parts number?
I heard "shift+ctrl+alt+R" is available.
But no change appear.
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Hidehiko JA9MAT.
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On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 07:48 PM, Hidehiko Komachi - JA9MAT wrote:
I heard "shift+ctrl+alt+R" is available.
But no change appear.
Did anything happen?? Was there a pop-up window asking you to confirm?
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If no pop-up window, then perhaps you were not using Windows, or another program intercepted that key combination, or you had another key accidentally pressed or missed one of the four.? When I tried it just now, my first two attempts failed to make the pop-up window, but I tried again - more carefully - and it worked.
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After that, a change can happen only if the part numbers need to be re-numbered.? If they are already numbered the way it wants, you won't see anything change after clicking OK in response to the pop-up confirmation.
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If you have a small number of parts, you can change them one at a time, of course.
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That's a bit too much freedom. LTspice will not warn you of duplicate designators until you run an analysis, which will obviously fail. If you leave it entirely to LTspice you will never get duplicates. Caution! This does not apply to net names.

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On 17/03/2025 00:50, John Woodgate wrote:

Right-click on the number, such as R1. An editing pane opens where you can change it to anything you like, within reason.


 

Thanks for reply quickly.
I tried again a and it works now.
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Thanks again!
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Hidehiko.


 

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 02:03 AM, Tony Casey wrote:
That's a bit too much freedom. LTspice will not warn you of duplicate designators until you run an analysis, which will obviously fail. If you leave it entirely to LTspice you will never get duplicates.
I guess this is the reason fo the “Reannotate”, shift+ctrl+alt+R, last gasp measure. I think that might be currently the only “useful” application of this feature: just erase my numbering scheme altogether because I don't trust it. Pretty stopgap. All those carefully considered Cin, Cout, Rtop, etc. designators will go away.
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Open to renumber suggestions/options. Would it be useful to have a renumber option that would go left-to-right, top-to-bottom, for instance? The current “Reannotate” function simply renumbers by chronological placement. Maybe one that would do that, while ignoring alpha names, and warn of duplicates?
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Such an option would be better than the chronological one, which makes no sense in terms of schematic reading. But it won't work for schematic layouts other than two or more rows of symbols or two or more columns of symbols. I suppose that many schematics can be laid out in one of those formats, but not all can.

On 2025-03-19 17:10, mstokowski via groups.io wrote:
Would it be useful to have a renumber option that would go left-to-right, top-to-bottom, for instance?
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On 19/03/2025 18:10, mstokowski via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 02:03 AM, Tony Casey wrote:
That's a bit too much freedom. LTspice will not warn you of duplicate designators until you run an analysis, which will obviously fail. If you leave it entirely to LTspice you will never get duplicates.
I guess this is the reason fo the “Reannotate”, shift+ctrl+alt+R, last gasp measure. I think that might be currently the only “useful” application of this feature: just erase my numbering scheme altogether because I don't trust it. Pretty stopgap. All those carefully considered Cin, Cout, Rtop, etc. designators will go away.
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Open to renumber suggestions/options. Would it be useful to have a renumber option that would go left-to-right, top-to-bottom, for instance? The current “Reannotate” function simply renumbers by chronological placement. Maybe one that would do that, while ignoring alpha names, and warn of duplicates?
Personally, I don't have much use for a "renumber all" feature, although others might, as I don't use LTspice as part of a PCB design flow - I don't suppose many do, even though Mike E originally endowed LTspice with an "olde worlde" PCB industry-standard netlist export capability. I would back the idea that it only applied to all-numeric designators, since anything else implies it has been changed manually. Warning of duplicates would only be useful for non-numerics, since the others would be renumbered anyway.

If you're looking for new features to add, why not try a message inviting suggestions? Previous similar things have tended to produce all kinds of suggestions: some good, others... imaginative.

I suspect you're not that desperate yet. ?

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I use reannotate when 'polishing' schematics for technical articles or documentation of simple specialist test equipment.

On 2025-03-19 17:48, Tony Casey wrote:
On 19/03/2025 18:10, mstokowski via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 02:03 AM, Tony Casey wrote:
That's a bit too much freedom. LTspice will not warn you of duplicate designators until you run an analysis, which will obviously fail. If you leave it entirely to LTspice you will never get duplicates.
I guess this is the reason fo the “Reannotate”, shift+ctrl+alt+R, last gasp measure. I think that might be currently the only “useful” application of this feature: just erase my numbering scheme altogether because I don't trust it. Pretty stopgap. All those carefully considered Cin, Cout, Rtop, etc. designators will go away.
?
Open to renumber suggestions/options. Would it be useful to have a renumber option that would go left-to-right, top-to-bottom, for instance? The current “Reannotate” function simply renumbers by chronological placement. Maybe one that would do that, while ignoring alpha names, and warn of duplicates?
Personally, I don't have much use for a "renumber all" feature, although others might, as I don't use LTspice as part of a PCB design flow - I don't suppose many do, even though Mike E originally endowed LTspice with an "olde worlde" PCB industry-standard netlist export capability. I would back the idea that it only applied to all-numeric designators, since anything else implies it has been changed manually. Warning of duplicates would only be useful for non-numerics, since the others would be renumbered anyway.

If you're looking for new features to add, why not try a message inviting suggestions? Previous similar things have tended to produce all kinds of suggestions: some good, others... imaginative.

I suspect you're not that desperate yet. ?

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On 19/03/2025 19:13, John Woodgate wrote:
I use reannotate when 'polishing' schematics for technical articles or documentation of simple specialist test equipment.
Why? I would think that would be last thing you would want to do, especially if you refer in the text to specific designators in the circuit description. One careless "renumber all", and you'll have re-edit the text, and you're bound to miss something. Well, I probably would...

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Well, I usually find that I have to add or delete parts during development, so on the 'working' schematic, R1 is followed by R16 and C1 is followed by C4, but C2 and C3 do not exist, for example. I try to do the reannotation before replacing placeholders in the text by component designations.

On 2025-03-19 18:25, Tony Casey wrote:
On 19/03/2025 19:13, John Woodgate wrote:
I use reannotate when 'polishing' schematics for technical articles or documentation of simple specialist test equipment.
Why? I would think that would be last thing you would want to do, especially if you refer in the text to specific designators in the circuit description. One careless "renumber all", and you'll have re-edit the text, and you're bound to miss something. Well, I probably would...

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I suggest a report feature that provide a list of designators, warns of duplicates, and optionally renumbers.


 

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That would be good. It's helpful to see what an editing or correcting feature proposes to do, before it does it.? Like replacing every letter in a text by an asterisk!

On 2025-03-19 19:03, eetech00 via groups.io wrote:
I suggest a report feature that provide a list of designators, warns of duplicates, and optionally renumbers.
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 12:09 PM, John Woodgate wrote:

That would be good. It's helpful to see what an editing or correcting feature proposes to do, before it does it.? Like replacing every letter in a text by an asterisk!

On 2025-03-19 19:03, eetech00 via groups.io wrote:
I suggest a report feature that provide a list of designators, warns of duplicates, and optionally renumbers.
Interesting idea. Gears turning…
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LTspice Team
Analog Devices Inc.


 

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 11:15 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
If you're looking for new features to add, why not try a message inviting suggestions? Previous similar things have tended to produce all kinds of suggestions: some good, others... imaginative.

I suspect you're not that desperate yet. ?
True that, but ideas are always welcome.
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Your statement about an invitation brings up a meta discussion: what would be a usable forum to feature/ideas? Ideally, it would be clearly dedicated to feature requests, including 'imaginative' ones, and it would easy to add comments, upvotes, etc. The EZ LTspice forum allows this, but that is not its real intent, so it is non-ideal. This forum also good, but non-ideal. We have an internal database of feature requests, but that doesn't really allow direct interaction with end users outside of ADI.
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For me, the usefulness of renumbering is limited to (a) eliminating gaps in the number sequence, which is actually a good idea, and (b) standardizing, by removing things such as "Rload2" or a mistyped "RR5".
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Other than that, it doesn't do me any good.? But YMMV.
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Andy