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Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

Hello Philippe

> See the help with keyword "state" ?[ .MACHINE -- Arbitrary State Machine ] in LTspice XVII

The Wine chm viewer doesn't allow search, I just installed xchm and, sure enough, there it is. Thanks for letting me know.

> The above netlist produces only 1mV on node 2.? However, if I add a 0V voltage source in series with R1, it produces 1V on node 2.? Very strange.

Hello analogspiceman, I just tried this new feature and it seems to go by the book to me (both examples from the help). Could it matter that I run the x64 version in Wine?

Vlad
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Re: Storing and retrieving use symbols

 

Many thanks for your very clear advice. I haven't yet tried to change things but I wanted to respond quickly to your suggestions.

Gordc


Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

Hello Helmut,

Just to be sure I just reinstalled the new LTspice from their website.? I am running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit I-7.

V1 1 0 pulse(0 1 0 1u 1u .5m 1m)
R1 2 0 1k
.machine
.output (2) V(1) < .5
.endmachine
.tran 3m

The above netlist produces only 1mV on node 2.? However, if I add a 0V voltage source in series with R1, it produces 1V on node 2.? Very strange.


---In LTspice@..., <helmutsennewald@...> wrote :

Hello analogspiceman,

I tried the 2nd example as you mentioned. When I change R1 to 1k5,?then I get 1.5V as expected.

Best regards,
Helmut

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Re: Storing and retrieving use symbols

 

OK Helmut, thanks



Re: Google groups

 

AG wrote:

? ?"Google groups seems to allow file postings and file sharing..."

I have read many negative things about Google Groups.? I thought they eliminated the file storage/sharing capability, a couple of years ago?

I subscribe to a number of Google Groups too.? And I remember being sent some administrative messages from Google about the fact that they were about to delete those groups' file storage areas, and that this was our last chance to download them before they were removed from the Group.

In my view, Google Groups are not a good alternative to Yahoo!Groups.? Believe it or not, Yahoo!Groups, in spite of all the bugs and all the unwelcome changes and the wrenches they keep throwing into the mechanism, seems to be more stable than Google Groups.? Google happily changes and eliminates functions in their software products without regard for the effects on their user base.? I have seen groups that migrated from Yahoo to Google, then years later scooted back over to Yahoo after what Google did to them.

Andy

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Re: vc pot with internal resistance

 

Hello Philippe

> "(it's unclear to me what that "p" means in A's formula, maybe 2 misspelled? "
> Isn't it pi ?

Wine displays it as the lower case letter "p", and so does xchm. I'd rather not speculate, though "2" would seem more appropiate in the context of A=ln()/2, B=ln()/2 => exp{ [ ln()*atan()+ln() ] / 2 }.

Vlad
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-- holding, among others:
a universal analog/digital filter, block-level models
for power electronics (and not only), math blocks
with a more stream-lined approach, some digital
ADC, DAC, (synchronous-)counter, JKflop, etc.


Re: LTspice XVII problems...

 

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I must admit to being pleased that asking my pre-release version to do a sync release has resulted in the download of 30-something megabytes and it now reports as the full release.

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From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...]
Sent: 29 July 2016 15:04
To: LTspice@...
Subject: Re: [LTspice] Re: LTspice XVII problems...

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Hi Tony

I didnt know that.
Gonna give it a try.
Thanx!

Al D.

On 07/29/2016 04:29 AM, Tony Casey tony@... [LTspice] wrote:

The 64bit LTspiceXVII will only be installed if you've taken the trouble
to create a 64bit WINEPREFIX. Left to its own devices, WINEPREFIX will
default to win32, therefore the X86 will be installed. If you just
install all Windows application into default .wine environment, you will
only get 32bit versions.

To create 64bit WINEPREFIX and install 64bit LTspiceXVII there, you type
this in a terminal window:
env WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.ltspice64 WINEARCH=win64 wine
"path-to-LTspiceXVII-installer"



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Re: XVII

 

One Mike wrote:

? ?"Windows XP is not supported."

The other Mike wrote:

? ?"XVII runs fine in Wine 1.2.2 in Ubuntu 10.04. This version is from
? ? April, 2010 and it only supports Win 95 to Win XP."

?I think this was mentioned before.? Although a version of Wine might emulate only up to Windows XP, it is not Windows XP itself, and it might have many more "hooks" and low-level capabilities than an authentic MS-Windows XP has.? A direct comparison would not be fair.

Andy



Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

Hello analogspiceman,

I tried the 2nd example as you mentioned. When I change R1 to 1k5,?then I get 1.5V as expected.

Best regards,
Helmut


Google groups

 

Greetings..

Google groups seems to allow file postings and file sharing...
It may be a good idea , given Verizon's track record to get something going in Google groups..
Your thoughts?
Cheers
AG



Re: LTspice XVII problems...

 

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Hi Tony

I didnt know that.
Gonna give it a try.
Thanx!

Al D.


On 07/29/2016 04:29 AM, Tony Casey tony@... [LTspice] wrote:
The 64bit LTspiceXVII will only be installed if you've taken the trouble
to create a 64bit WINEPREFIX. Left to its own devices, WINEPREFIX will
default to win32, therefore the X86 will be installed. If you just
install all Windows application into default .wine environment, you will
only get 32bit versions.

To create 64bit WINEPREFIX and install 64bit LTspiceXVII there, you type
this in a terminal window:
env WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.ltspice64 WINEARCH=win64 wine
"path-to-LTspiceXVII-installer"

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AC2CL

I do not think there is any thrill that
can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as
he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success...
Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything.

- Nikola Tesla



Re: Is direct contact okay?

 

One can make a reasonable guess about the CT core dimensions from the data sheet, but it is not clear what the material is.? High quality CTs use tape-wound nickel-iron cores to keep magnetizing current to a minimum, but your CT has a split core, which probably introduces enough of an air gap that they might use ordinary transformer steel, since it is less expensive and magnetizing current would be dominated by the gap.? However, the difference still matters because you care about saturation and nickel-iron has only about half the saturation level of regular transformer steel (the core losses are lower, too).

It is easy to guess your application, you are most likely using MOSFETs to time multiplex the output of the CT between normal current sensing and supplying power for the current sense circuitry.? No doubt you are wondering how the build up of magnetizing current will affect the accuracy of the sensed signal and how much power you get with a relatively low duty cycle in power mode.


---In LTspice@..., <4vl7aujnwrex7ropketfjd7le5afsie4zyue7rcb@...> wrote :

Bordodynov and analogspiceman

If you could please direct Email me at HKafeman@..., then I can give you some more details of the CT, etc.

Thanks and Regards
Henry Kafeman



Re: Is direct contact okay?

 

Bordodynov and analogspiceman

If you could please direct Email me at HKafeman@..., then I can give you some more details of the CT, etc.

Thanks and Regards
Henry Kafeman



Re: Is direct contact okay?

 

Hello Henry Kafeman.
The primary winding of the current transformer comprises a single turn. The current transformer is loaded by a small impedance in magnitude (relative). The consequence of this effect strong demagnetization. Therefore, the effect of magnetic saturation of the core needs huge currents.

Bordodynov.

29.07.2016, 14:46, "4vl7aujnwrex7ropketfjd7le5afsie4zyue7rcb@... [LTspice]" <ltspice@...>:

analogspiceman

Thank you for your reply.

Yes we want to avoid saturation, but we are using the Current Transformer in two modes, for Energy Harvesting and Measurement. To this end we are changing the load it is connected to between the Modes and also switching in varying Burden resistance values.

Hence we would like to try to model the behaviour across a wide range of Primary currents to see the effect and to make sure that we understand what is happening and whether saturation becomes an issue. Also we need to understand the effect of a wide range of operating temperatures....

I have asked the manufacturers if they can supply the relevant details for the model, but so far, they do not seem to be able to give me anything more than the basic details and a test result excitation curve!

Thanks and Regards

Henry Kafeman


Re: Is direct contact okay?

 

analogspiceman

Thank you for your reply.

Yes we want to avoid saturation, but we are using the Current Transformer in two modes, for Energy Harvesting and Measurement. To this end we are changing the load it is connected to between the Modes and also switching in varying Burden resistance values.

Hence we would like to try to model the behaviour across a wide range of Primary currents to see the effect and to make sure that we understand what is happening and whether saturation becomes an issue. Also we need to understand the effect of a wide range of operating temperatures....

I have asked the manufacturers if they can supply the relevant details for the model, but so far, they do not seem to be able to give me anything more than the basic details and a test result excitation curve!

Thanks and Regards

Henry Kafeman


Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

Hello Helmut,

Try the second example from Help (just paste it into an empty schematic as SPICE text).? It is true that the outputs will sum together like current sources, but the value of the load resistors has no effect on the output amplitude.? Please try it and report back.


---In LTspice@..., <helmutsennewald@...> wrote :

Hello analogspiceman,

> The state machine appears to have a bug.??
> The nominal output amplitude is 1mV rather than 1V, so the output equations must be multiplied by 1k.??
> For example: ....

I have asked Mike about the 1mV.?

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The state machine puts out milliamps, not amps.? That is the way it is supposed to work.

--Mike


Best regards,
Helmut
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Re: LTspiceXVII released

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It's obviously a very small state, like Monaco or the Vatican. (;-)

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With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO ¨C Own Opinions Only

J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England

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Sylvae in aeternum manent.

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From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:42 AM
To: LTspice@...
Subject: [LTspice] Re: LTspiceXVII released

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Hello analogspiceman,

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> The state machine appears to have a bug.??

> The nominal output amplitude is 1mV rather than 1V, so the output equations must be multiplied by 1k.??

> For example: ....

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I have asked Mike about the 1mV.?

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The state machine puts out milliamps, not amps.? That is the way it is supposed to work.

--Mike

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Best regards,

Helmut
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Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

Hello analogspiceman,


> The state machine appears to have a bug.??
> The nominal output amplitude is 1mV rather than 1V, so the output equations must be multiplied by 1k.??
> For example: ....

I have asked Mike about the 1mV.?

--

The state machine puts out milliamps, not amps.? That is the way it is supposed to work.

--Mike


Best regards,
Helmut
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Re: LTspice XVII for mac

 

Hello Fernando,

I guess ?the native Mac-version will lag the PC-version for quite some while.?

You could use the Windows LTspiceXVII with WINE or CrossOver on the MAC. ?

Best regards,
Helmut



LTspice XVII for mac

 

Hi to all, LTspice XVII is for windows only. Will be compatible for Mac OS X???

Thanks. Fernando.

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Un saludo. Fernando