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Re: LTspice XVII problems...

 

Hello keantoken

You wrote :

" I was wondering since the help file is actually larger for XVII, maybe there is new stuff? "

Yes : incredible but right, the Help has been updated, almost on new functions.

Regards
PhB


Request for XVII

 

Hi


Was is possible for user to choose default file location for library collection elsewhere other than drive C, ie I keep all data in drive D which is sync or shared by external server.?


The XVII can stay in program file ie drive C for example.


Also include a link at the top RHS of the XVII window that jump to this forum. The google search does not provide top level?results?LTSpice from Yahoo.?


Really useful to apply option to enable window control style on schematic, ie CNTR-D duplicate, CNTR-C copy, CNTR-V paste, CNTR-X cut, CNTR-S save, select and delete and so on or have custom key list with user choice (Save/load).?


Thanks


Re: XVII

 


---In LTspice@..., <ai.egrps@...> wrote :

> One Mike wrote:

>>> "Windows XP is not supported."

> The other Mike wrote:

>> "XVII runs fine in Wine 1.2.2 in Ubuntu 10.04. This version is
>> from April, 2010 and it only supports Win 95 to Win XP."

> I think this was mentioned before. Although a version of Wine
> might emulate only up to Windows XP, it is not Windows XP itself,
> and it might have many more "hooks" and low-level capabilities
> than an authentic MS-Windows XP has. A direct comparison would not
> be fair.

> Andy

Pure speculation. So you think they have a magic crystal ball that
let them look 6 years into the future and add the routines needed by
XVII? I want one!

I think it is more likely they skipped some that Mike needs for the
new multiple monitor display, or something like that. That's why it
won't load in XP but runs fine in Wine. Also pure speculation.

However, since IV will continue to be supported, it no longer
matters. I can continue to use IV, and keep XVII as a backup for
troubleshooting in case I run into a snag.

I think others can do the same.

Mike


Re: LTspiceXVII symbol import problem:

John Woodgate
 

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Noted, thank you.

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From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:53 PM
To: LTspice@...
Subject: Re: [LTspice] LTspiceXVII symbol import problem:

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Hi John

I fingered it out.

XVII puts em in a different location than IV:

C:\users\username\My Documents\LTspiceXVII\lib\sym\

So, you can put your symbols folder below \sym there.

Its not any where near Program Files any more.

I still havent found where is the .ini file.

AFLC - another freakin learning curve!

Al D.

On 07/29/2016 05:00 PM, 'John Woodgate' jmw1937@... [LTspice] wrote:

We VERY often tell people that this is usually due to Windows protection of files in the Program Files folder. Put your own stuff in the same folder as your schematic, or in a 'My Library' folder outside Program Files.



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Re: Google groups

 

Verizon will never stop Yahoo Groups.. The will just bleed it to death..
That is their modus-operandi... Ask Steve Chase....
Cheers
AG


Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

alzie wrote:

? ?"Well, i tried to copy / rename my LTspiceIV.ini to LTspiceXVII.ini and
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XVII ignores it.
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Must be Some place else."

I wonder if it depends on your version of Windows or Wine?

If you installed LTspiceXVII already, then it would have created its own LTspiceXVII.ini, somewhere.? If it didn't create it where you looked, then clearly that wasn't the right place.

I found mine in the %APPDATA% folder, right next to my LTspiceIV.ini.? It was one of the first things I looked for, right after I installed the alpha-test LTspiceXVII.

I am using Windows 7.? Not interested in the free downgrade to Win10.

Andy



Re: Google groups

 

Hello,

I have now created a ?group to reserve the name LTspice.?
It could be our backup position if the new owners of Yahoo would stop the Yahoo groups.


Best regards,
Helmut

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Re: Google groups

 


---In LTspice@..., <helmutsennewald@...> wrote :

> Hello,

> The very big Yahoo group "Tekscopes" started to move to the group
> "Groups.io" in April. A very few weeks later they stopped the move
> and are now back to Yahoo. I am sure they will stay with Yahoo as
> long as possible. That's the same what I will do. Stay as long as
> possible.

> Best regards,

> Helmut

Helmut,

There are numerous posts in Tekscopes about groups.io

They started looking at groups.io on April 12. They reserved the name and transferred some files but they never actually moved. They disabled posting to the new group some time ago.

A post on May 22 by Dennis describes the status.

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129407RE: [TekScopes] New forum and selling Tek stuff

Dennis Tillman
May 22
Hi,

The move to groups.io is ready to go but at this point Michael Dunn
and I decided to allow the sale process of Yahoo progress to its
conclusion before deciding when the move to groups.io would take
place.

Dennis Tillman W7PF



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It might be wise to do the same as Tekscopes. Start LTspice on groups.io so you are ready to make the move, but wait until it is clear what Verison intends to do.

Even if it is feasible to stay, it would be a good idea to have a backup.

You never know what is going to happen.

Mike


Henry's current transformer problem

 

Hello Henry,

From looking at the data sheet here are my guess for your CT core's physical parameters:

Ae (core area) = 95mm**2
le (path length) = 66mm

For LTspice the magnetic parameters are:
A = 95u

Lm = 66m

Lg = 5u (just a guess -- could be 1u to 20u -- adjust to match the inductance)


For the magnetic parameters use (steel OR nickel-iron / permalloy):

Bs = 1.8 or 0.8

Br = 0.5 or 0.5 (make this lower if there are convergence problems)

Hc = 40 or 2.4




Re: LTspice XVII problems...

 

Thanks for the help. The help file was working in the past but not anymore. I was wondering since the help file is actually larger for XVII, maybe there is new stuff?


Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

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Well, i tried to copy / rename my LTspiceIV.ini to LTspiceXVII.ini and

XVII ignores it.

Must be Some place else.



On 07/29/2016 05:56 PM, Andy ai.egrps@... [LTspice] wrote:
LTspice IV uses %APPDATA%\LTspiceIV.ini.

LTspice XVII uses %APPDATA%\LTspiceXVII.ini.


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AC2CL

I do not think there is any thrill that
can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as
he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success...
Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything.

- Nikola Tesla



Re: LTspiceXVII symbol import problem:

 

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Hi John

I fingered it out.

XVII puts em in a different location than IV:

C:\users\username\My Documents\LTspiceXVII\lib\sym\

So, you can put your symbols folder below \sym there.

Its not any where near Program Files any more.

I still havent found where is the .ini file.

AFLC - another freakin learning curve!

Al D.


On 07/29/2016 05:00 PM, 'John Woodgate' jmw1937@... [LTspice] wrote:

We VERY often tell people that this is usually due to Windows protection of files in the Program Files folder. Put your own stuff in the same folder as your schematic, or in a 'My Library' folder outside Program Files.


-- 

AC2CL

I do not think there is any thrill that
can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as
he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success...
Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything.

- Nikola Tesla



Re: Ferrite Beads

 

Hello,

The lib and sym files under "Program" are not used by LTspice.

The real directory used by LTspiceXVII is in the personal folder "Documents".

If a symbol is copied in this path, it's shown in the component selection without setting an extra path.

C:\Users\Helmut\Documents\LTspiceXVII\lib\sym?

C:\Users\Helmut\Documents\LTspiceXVII\lib\sub


Best regards,
Helmut





Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

Andy wrote:
"(There is a better pointer to that directory using environment
variables, but I don't know it off-hand.)"

It's %AppData%.

Regards,
Tony


Re: LTspiceXVII symbol import problem:

 

AL D wrote:
"...even copied just the files to the sym directory.

XVII refuses to see them."

That's because XVII doesn't pick the symbols and models from "c:&#92;Program Files&#92;LTC&#92;LTspiceXVII&#92;lib&#92;..." any more. Instead, on installation, a job is run that creates a directory in "My Documents" called LTspiceXVII and the whole lib structure is just copied there. LTspice then picks all live lib information from there. The same batch job is run when you do a sync update. I guess I can understand why this is done, but for me, it's a real pain.

The reason for my annoyance was that because I am running IV and XVII side by side, I wanted to sync the lib folders in each, so I symlinked the one under IV to XVII. When I realised what was happening when I did an update, I cancelled the update without letting it finish. I kinda wish I hadn't, because it left my entire lib directory structure full of 0byte files. Fortunately, because I do practice what I preach, I was able to restore everything easily from SVN.

Personally, I find the new method of library management in XVII really inconvenient, but probably because I went against "conventional wisdom" in the first place. When I work out how to make it work for me, I'll let you know. In the meantime, I've reverted to IV until I figure it out.

Regards,
Tony


Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

LTspice IV uses %APPDATA%\LTspiceIV.ini.

LTspice XVII uses %APPDATA%\LTspiceXVII.ini.

Andy

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Re: LTspiceXVII released

 

I am a work now, so I can't check home, but C:\Users\[me]\AppData\Roaming is where the LTspiceIV.ini has always been.? I make an edited, generic back up copy to store my settings because I always feared that a fresh install would overwrite whatever was there.? Sure enough, now that I've checked, LTspiceXVII.ini is there, too.

I've had a problem at home with the ini file being trashed by during LTspiceXVII update attempts.? I can't remember where it is, though, without looking, which I can't do until later.


---In LTspice@..., <jmw1937@...> wrote :

Analogspiceman says ?' I am running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit I-7.', so his .ini file is probably elsewhere.

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With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO ¨C Own Opinions Only

J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England

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Sylvae in aeternum manent.

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From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 8:55 PM
To: [LTspice] group <LTspice@...>
Subject: Re: [LTspice] Re: LTspiceXVII released

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? ?"What is interesting is that my selection of this option managed to persist through a complete reinstall of the software.? The Control Panel's persistent settings must be stored in the registry or in a configuration file that does not get erased or overwritten.? I will have to go looking for where such items are stored with the new LTspice."

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All LTspice configuration settings are stored in the LTspice*.ini file where "*" = IV or XVII.? That file is in my user's AppData\Roaming directory. ?(There is a better pointer to that directory using environment variables, but I don't know it off-hand.) ?The file is NOT over-written by a re-install, so yes, it will retain your settings.

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LTspiceIV *can* store its settings in the Windows Registry instead, if you tell it to.? But by default, it doesn't touch the Registry.

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Regards,

Andy

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Re: Ferrite Beads

 

? ?"It looks like added symbols to the installation folders will not be shown in the component-menu."

I guess you are saying this is only an LTspiceXVII problem?

When I add symbols to the library folders, LTspiceIV does see them.? I have not tried that with LTspiceXVII.

I guess that from now on, we need to be clear which LTspice program we are talking about. ?:-)

Andy

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Re: LTspiceXVII released

John Woodgate
 

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Analogspiceman says ?' I am running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit I-7.', so his .ini file is probably elsewhere.

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With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO ¨C Own Opinions Only

J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England

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Sylvae in aeternum manent.

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From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 8:55 PM
To: [LTspice] group
Subject: Re: [LTspice] Re: LTspiceXVII released

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? ?"What is interesting is that my selection of this option managed to persist through a complete reinstall of the software.? The Control Panel's persistent settings must be stored in the registry or in a configuration file that does not get erased or overwritten.? I will have to go looking for where such items are stored with the new LTspice."

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All LTspice configuration settings are stored in the LTspice*.ini file where "*" = IV or XVII.? That file is in my user's AppData\Roaming directory. ?(There is a better pointer to that directory using environment variables, but I don't know it off-hand.) ?The file is NOT over-written by a re-install, so yes, it will retain your settings.

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LTspiceIV *can* store its settings in the Windows Registry instead, if you tell it to.? But by default, it doesn't touch the Registry.

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Regards,

Andy

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Re: LTspiceXVII symbol import problem:

John Woodgate
 

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We VERY often tell people that this is usually due to Windows protection of files in the Program Files folder. Put your own stuff in the same folder as your schematic, or in a 'My Library' folder outside Program Files.

?

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO ¨C Own Opinions Only

J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England

?

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

?

From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:10 PM
To: LTspice@...
Subject: [LTspice] LTspiceXVII symbol import problem:

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Ive discovered some odd behavior -

I had created a bunch of my own symbols in IV.

Ive tried to copy my symbol directory to the sym dir.

as well as to the Misc dir, and

even copied just the files to the sym directory.

XVII refuses to see them.

Any of you experience this?

Ive already emailed to "help" about this.

Al D.