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Re: using vendor supplied P-spice op-amp models


 

--- In LTspice@..., brian.howie@b... wrote:



Are there any special considerations with using P-spice op-amp
macro
models with LTspice? I'm trying to simulate a circuit that uses a
Burr Brown/TI electrometer op-amp (OPA128 or OPA129) and I'm
getting
incorrect results. I downloaded the models from TI's website.
The
circuit's been built and thoroughly debugged, so I'm confident in
the
design.

When I couldn't get the circuit to operate correctly, I entered a
simple test circuit to verify some of the basic op-amp
characteristics. I found that the input bias current was way to
high
(about 12nA instead of 100fA), and the gain-bandwidth of the
OPA129
was high by about a factor of 10. I suspect that the models are
just
screwed up, but since I'm new to LTspice I'm not completely
confident
with my conclusion. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I get similar problems with the OP27A, although in my case it is
the noise that
is reported about 2 orders more than the data sheet and hand
calculations
suggest. The bias currents look right. Other vendors opamps seem to
behave.

I ran a test circuit on Accusim II (Eldo SPICE-like kernal) and
the OP27A gave
sensible answers. I ported the netlist back to LTSPICE and although
the AC
analysis ran, the noise analysis gave up . I put the Accusim OP27A
model into
LTSPICE library and it gave the same wrong noise on my test
circuit.

Brian



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Brain,

On one hand, I'm frustrated to learn there are so many issues with
vendor supplied models. This sort of problem can send you down a rat
hole for quite some time, and leave you worrying about the soundness
of your design. On the other hand, I know that I'm going to only use
simulation to validate my initial design and analysis, and not use it
as a substitute for other analytical methods. This experience only
supports my convictions and helps keep me honest.

- John

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