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Re: CD4000 test


 

Gentlemen, those CD4x and 74HC libraries have two required values that appear on a symbol's SpiceModel line.
ctrl-right-click a logic symbol to alter its SpiceModel line.
By default the two values are the nodes "VDD" and "0".
Creating a 12V power supply for CD4x logic and naming its output node VDD works out-of-the-box.
But assume for example, you already have a V-24 node and a V-12 node that could power the logic.
Change the logic symbol's default SpiceModel value from "VDD 0" to "V-12 V-24".
This sets logic outputs to be V(V-12)=logic-high and V(V-24)=logic-low, instead of VDD/0.
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In either case the difference across the power pins is 12 volts, -12 to -24 volts or 12 to 0 volts has the same 12 volt difference.
To power the internal logic from 12 volts, change the symbol's default SpiceLine (not SpiceModel) value from VDD=5 to VDD=12.
The SpiceLine VDD=x value sets the model's power-pin voltage and can be anything like VDD=2.3 or 3.5, 6, 12 etc...
The three SpiceLine values control functions within the logic like, prop-delay, output drive, slew rate, etc...
The SpiceLine SPEED=1.0 and TRIPDT=5e-9 are defaulted for the logic family.
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Changing the VDD=x value affects the speed of a given device. (i.e. CD4x is much faster at 15V than it is at 5V)
The SpiceLine SPEED=1.0 value is relative.
To model CD4x-like logic at 12 volts that is 10 times faster than normal CD4x logic, change the SpiceLine SPEED=1.0 value to SPEED=10.
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All for now
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Sent:?Wednesday, April 02, 2025 at 12:52 PM
From:?"Andy I via groups.io" <AI.egrps+io@...>
To:[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [LTspice] CD4000 test
On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 12:38 PM, DerekK wrote:
As for the circuit, I played some more but cannot get the output of the CD4013B to change. Both Q and Q* are staying at zero on the first stage when I am running a clock on the input. I even played with changing values of SET and RST with no change in the output. Something should be moving.
Your voltage source V2 drives node VDD1.? ?That? should be node VDD.? ?These CD4000 models require a power node named "VDD".
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Andy
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