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Re: Incandescent lamp model


 

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I was trying for the ¡°classical¡± hardware implementation (cf. HP201C, e.g.)

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I got a LTspice model working well, using a diode and filter feedback to adjust a behavioral resistor, but that¡¯s cheating.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [LTspice] Incandescent lamp model

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That model is probably for a gas-filled lamp, but a pilot light is probably a vacuum lamp. That could make quite a difference. I'm surprised that a 6 V 10mA lamp is still made. Do you really need low distortion? Diode clipping can get down to about 1% with careful design. A JFET as a voltage-controlled resistor (VCR) can do better, but only for a one-off, because the FETs vary too much unless you use a very costly part designed and selected as a VCR.

On 2025-03-17 18:39, Bell, Dave via groups.io wrote:

I¡¯m trying to adapt and use the model in LampModel.zip, uploaded by analogspiceman last September.

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The test circuit supplied works fine for a 120VAC lamp.

I want to adapt it to a small pilot lamp, as a stabilizer for a Wein network oscillator.

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There are a number of parameters defined in the model, but except foe ambient temperature, not well explained.

I commented the .param block and passed them externally, and that works exactly the same, as expected.

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Now, can anyone suggest what needs ¡°tuning¡±, to get? about 600 ohms at 10mA, after warm-up?

Ka, ambient temp (Kelvin) is easy.

Kc looks like design voltage (120RMS), but doesn¡¯t really act like it; left alone.

Kf seems to be a heat transfer coefficient, maybe good for warmup timing, but slightly changes stable resistance.

CTf is a coupling factor from Tambient to Tfilament, sets warmup timing; left alone.

RTf is filament resistance, but changing that parameter makes only a very small difference to the preset, ~150 ohms.

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Thanks,

Dave

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