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Re: THD 0.000000%?


 

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Using more cycles gives an average level of each harmonic, which may compensate for errors due to the 'start' epoch of the simulation. I find it useful to set the.TRAN simulation to ignore the early cycles that look distorted, but 'look' is sometimes not good enough; some transient harmonic levels that are significant are still being included. If I'm not confident about the reported result, I change the .TRAN to save results later and/or simulate for longer. The other aspect of .TRAN simulation time is that if you set it too short it will not resolve very low frequency components. For example, a 50ms simulation will not show a 10Hz component.

On 2025-02-04 16:57, Tony Casey wrote:
Did you try just letting .FOUR use its defaults?

My experience that it is pretty consistent. Why do you think more cycles would give you a better result? Just make sure the waveform display is comfortably more than the number of cycles the .FOUR uses. I normally use the default of 1 cycle, but display between 3 and 6 cycles for good good visual. .FOUR will use the last cycle of the waveform.

I haven't seen your full schematic, but did you remember to use .options plotwinsize=0 and set the maximum timestep to a good fraction of a cycle? I normally set Tmax to 1/period/2^n, with n normally between 8 and 16, depending on the expected level of THD with a suitable trade-off in analysis time. Normally Fourier stuff like things in binary multiples, but I understand LTspice's algorithms are much less fussy.

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On 04/02/2025 16:32, rlim701 via groups.io wrote:
I spoke too soon.? Still not getting consistent THD results.? The latest zipped files (thd_debug.zip) show that changing .param fft_cycles=67 brought back the 'thd=0.000000% line again even though I added extra end time and also subtracted 1 cycle from .FOUR.? Would appreciate other thoughts to at least get some consistent results.? What I am essentially doing is tuning the simulator via fft_cycles and fft_throw_cycles to get a trustworthy thd number, but whenever I try that by increasing either parameters, I seem to eventually end up back to all zeros.

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