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Re: The First and Last Hallicrafters with Flywheel tuning?

 
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Weighted flywheel tuning on my SX-25 and S-40a main tuning but not bandspread. ?SX-100 has weighted flywheel tuning on both main and bandspread. ?

No weighted tuning on my SR-400A, nor the matching VFO.?

Paul, W9AC.?

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Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] The First and Last Hallicrafters with Flywheel tuning?
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Not the first, or the last, but my SX-42 sure has it.?



On Apr 26, 2025, at 8:37?AM, Don Buska - The Radio Lab Works <don@...> wrote:

? Here's a question that is of general interest to me.? What was the first and last Hallicrafters radio (Receiver or Transceiver) that had a flywheel incorporated into the main frequency tuning?? I do recall in High school our SX-28 indeed had it.? My SX-115 has it (matching HT-32B too).? Did any of the SR series transceivers or later SX-receivers have a flywheel hidden inside?

73
Don N9OO


Re: The First and Last Hallicrafters with Flywheel tuning?

 
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Not the first, or the last, but my SX-42 sure has it.?



On Apr 26, 2025, at 8:37?AM, Don Buska - The Radio Lab Works <don@...> wrote:

? Here's a question that is of general interest to me.? What was the first and last Hallicrafters radio (Receiver or Transceiver) that had a flywheel incorporated into the main frequency tuning?? I do recall in High school our SX-28 indeed had it.? My SX-115 has it (matching HT-32B too).? Did any of the SR series transceivers or later SX-receivers have a flywheel hidden inside?

73
Don N9OO


The First and Last Hallicrafters with Flywheel tuning?

 

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Here's a question that is of general interest to me.? What was the first and last Hallicrafters radio (Receiver or Transceiver) that had a flywheel incorporated into the main frequency tuning?? I do recall in High school our SX-28 indeed had it.? My SX-115 has it (matching HT-32B too).? Did any of the SR series transceivers or later SX-receivers have a flywheel hidden inside?

73
Don N9OO


Re: For Sale - Hallicrafters R-274/FRR with speaker

 

Hi Dwight,
I may be leaving for New Mexico as early as Friday so should be there all next week. I need contact information or an address for the R-274 pickup. I may be able to make the pickup on the way over or arrange to drive up from Pie Town during the week (which gives you a bit more flexibility on timing).
Thanks,
Tom N5AMA?


Re: For Sale - Hallicrafters R-274/FRR with speaker

 

Hi Dwight,
Thanks for the wake up call. As recently as today, Pie Town still had snow/sleet in the forecast. Normally the snow melts off or evaporates in a day or two. There is nothing but dirt roads going to the observatory it makes driving in or out once you get there very difficult if you don’t have 4 wheel drive. Temps aren’t bad but I don’t make the trip if it’s wet and slippery. I’ll have to wait and let the weather settle a bit.
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Tom
N5AMA


Re: WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

 

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Hope the picture of the s-meter helps?

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I'm having a problem with mine too. Unfortunately,

I'm missing the entire range indicator (right side of the main scale), drive pulley, and pointer, along with the complete mounting unit.

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von don Root
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. April 2025 21:49
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Nick, well maybe you can ask some SX-23 owner to take some pictures for you. Other than that, any reasonable meter is better than none at least for now .

If you go to swaps, with a picture you might have a lucky day while going thru odds and sods .. “one man’s junk…”

Good ludk

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick, W1NJC via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 12:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

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Don,

The original is completely absent.? All I have are some pictures that I found online and one from a guy at ARF.?

?

I did verify that the meter drive circuit works by wiring up the meter from a Johnson Matchbox.? I adjusted no signal = full scale and as I tune a strong signal, the needle moves to the left...

?

I'm also chasing down a distortion issue with (I think) the 6SQ7 detector circuit, so the radio is open and on its side again :)


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Re: For Sale - Hallicrafters R-274/FRR with speaker

 

Hello Tom, Just checking in to see if you still plan on taking a trip to the observatory.?
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Dwight


Re: Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

 

Richard
This 115 volt line voltage, back in the day, is a myth.? Just look at Riders Perpetual Troubleshooter Manual, Volume 1 circa 1931.
See:????
This is mostly battery sets but it does include early Philco and RCA line powered sets as well.? The voltage range given for the early AC sets is 105 to 125 VAC.? The average of 105 and 125 is, of course, 115.? Resistors, capacitors and such have a tolerance, why not line voltage???

If the tube heaters are operating at 6.3 volts +/- 10% then all is well.? Pentodes don't care about a 10% increase in B+.? That is why the plate current curves are flat lines, plate voltage has little effect on plate current.
Jim

Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.? Murphy


On Friday, April 18, 2025 at 04:38:00 PM CDT, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:


I had fun this morning. I started up my 1952 Hallicrafters S-40B receiver today, very carefully. I first cleaned the controls, then plugged in the receiver with my Variac and Dim-Bulb-Tester in line. Slowly brought the voltage up listening for hum, watching for smoke. There was a very slight 60 Hz hum at the beginning but that went away.

It's working on 80 volts right now. I thought it best not to bring it up to 110 VAC, the standard household voltage that was common in the 1950s. Here at the house I have 122 VAC. I left it running for over an hour, nothing bad happened.

So given that, I'll go ahead and replace all the capacitors (ordered Harbach) check for out of tolerance resistors, etc. Clean it up. It's really dirty, which is actually a good thing, tells you no one was inside messing around. It looks to all original.

I'll bet this is the first time it has run in decades. Just goes to show you they built (made in the USA) really good stuff back then, built for the long haul, repairable, to last many generations.

73, Richard AG5M


On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 03:04:45 PM PDT, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:


Hello all, this being my first post here.? I recently acquired a Hallicrafters S40-B receiver from a dear friend who went SK.? I had promised to restore it for him, so even though he is gone, I'll keep my promise.? From the looks of it it's all original with no one ever having been inside it, unused for unknown amount of time.? Manufactured Nov. 17, 1952.? Even had the original manual in it.? So what you see is 1952 dirt and a lot of old paper caps, etc.? I'm an old timer, licensed in 1963, so tube rigs are not new to me.? I have not plugged it in yet, and yes, I know all about Dim-Bulb-Testers, Variacs, etc.? I have analog and digital meters, AF and RF generators, O'Scope, tube testers, etc.? Just looking for some up front advice from anyone who has been down this path before with this or similar Hallicrafters receivers, what to watch out for, anything special to think about?? Thank you, 73, Richard AG5M


Re: Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

 

I only was listening to local AM radio on the bench, chunk of wire connected to antenna terminal. It sounds really nice. Band switch is a bit stiff, will work on that. All controls and switches silent, no scratchy stuff. Mine too has all the original stickers still on it. And the inrush limiter is a good idea. Next up, before I complete this project, is my Collins 516F-2 power supply. Then I'll get back to this.
73, Richard AG5M


On Friday, April 18, 2025 at 02:53:41 PM PDT, don Root <drootofallevil@...> wrote:


Very good Richard, but what all did you manage to receive, and how did it sound??? Good luck

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard AG5M via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 5:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

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I had fun this morning. I started up my 1952 Hallicrafters S-40B receiver today, very carefully. I first cleaned the controls, then plugged in the receiver with my Variac and Dim-Bulb-Tester in line. Slowly brought the voltage up listening for hum, watching for smoke. There was a very slight 60 Hz hum at the beginning but that went away.

It's working on 80 volts right now. I thought it best not to bring it up to 110 VAC, the standard household voltage that was common in the 1950s. Here at the house I have 122 VAC. I left it running for over an hour, nothing bad happened.

So given that, I'll go ahead and replace all the capacitors (ordered Harbach) check for out of tolerance resistors, etc. Clean it up. It's really dirty, which is actually a good thing, tells you no one was inside messing around. It looks to all original.

I'll bet this is the first time it has run in decades. Just goes to show you they built (made in the USA) really good stuff back then, built for the long haul, repairable, to last many generations.

73, Richard AG5M

On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 03:04:45 PM PDT, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:

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Hello all, this being my first post here.? I recently acquired a Hallicrafters S40-B receiver from a dear friend who went SK.? I had promised to restore it for him, so even though he is gone, I'll keep my promise.? From the looks of it it's all original with no one ever having been inside it, unused for unknown amount of time.? Manufactured Nov. 17, 1952.? Even had the original manual in it.? So what you see is 1952 dirt and a lot of old paper caps, etc.? I'm an old timer, licensed in 1963, so tube rigs are not new to me.? I have not plugged it in yet, and yes, I know all about Dim-Bulb-Testers, Variacs, etc.? I have analog and digital meters, AF and RF generators, O'Scope, tube testers, etc.? Just looking for some up front advice from anyone who has been down this path before with this or similar Hallicrafters receivers, what to watch out for, anything special to think about?? Thank you, 73, Richard AG5M


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Re: Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

 

I always add an inrush limiter to the vintage gear. An ounce of prevention... you know.
Jeep K3HVG

On 04/18/2025 5:53 PM EDT don Root <drootofallevil@...> wrote:
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Very good Richard, but what all did you manage to receive, and how did it sound??? Good luck

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard AG5M via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 5:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

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I had fun this morning. I started up my 1952 Hallicrafters S-40B receiver today, very carefully. I first cleaned the controls, then plugged in the receiver with my Variac and Dim-Bulb-Tester in line. Slowly brought the voltage up listening for hum, watching for smoke. There was a very slight 60 Hz hum at the beginning but that went away.

It's working on 80 volts right now. I thought it best not to bring it up to 110 VAC, the standard household voltage that was common in the 1950s. Here at the house I have 122 VAC. I left it running for over an hour, nothing bad happened.

So given that, I'll go ahead and replace all the capacitors (ordered Harbach) check for out of tolerance resistors, etc. Clean it up. It's really dirty, which is actually a good thing, tells you no one was inside messing around. It looks to all original.

I'll bet this is the first time it has run in decades. Just goes to show you they built (made in the USA) really good stuff back then, built for the long haul, repairable, to last many generations.

73, Richard AG5M

On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 03:04:45 PM PDT, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:

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Hello all, this being my first post here.? I recently acquired a Hallicrafters S40-B receiver from a dear friend who went SK.? I had promised to restore it for him, so even though he is gone, I'll keep my promise.? From the looks of it it's all original with no one ever having been inside it, unused for unknown amount of time.? Manufactured Nov. 17, 1952.? Even had the original manual in it.? So what you see is 1952 dirt and a lot of old paper caps, etc.? I'm an old timer, licensed in 1963, so tube rigs are not new to me.? I have not plugged it in yet, and yes, I know all about Dim-Bulb-Testers, Variacs, etc.? I have analog and digital meters, AF and RF generators, O'Scope, tube testers, etc.? Just looking for some up front advice from anyone who has been down this path before with this or similar Hallicrafters receivers, what to watch out for, anything special to think about?? Thank you, 73, Richard AG5M

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don??? va3drl


Re: Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

 

I have an excellent S-40B.? I was incredibly fortunate to find this one so as to replicate my first operational station in 1959.? It appears as-new. All the paper stickers still in place. I did re-cap it, of course. I may yet install a xtal calibrator using a 3500 crystal for ham band markers.? Those green dials look... well... just great!!? Like all these items, they need regular use to keep the controls quiet.? We try...
Jeep K3HVG

On 04/18/2025 5:37 PM EDT Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:
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I had fun this morning. I started up my 1952 Hallicrafters S-40B receiver today, very carefully. I first cleaned the controls, then plugged in the receiver with my Variac and Dim-Bulb-Tester in line. Slowly brought the voltage up listening for hum, watching for smoke. There was a very slight 60 Hz hum at the beginning but that went away.

It's working on 80 volts right now. I thought it best not to bring it up to 110 VAC, the standard household voltage that was common in the 1950s. Here at the house I have 122 VAC. I left it running for over an hour, nothing bad happened.

So given that, I'll go ahead and replace all the capacitors (ordered Harbach) check for out of tolerance resistors, etc. Clean it up. It's really dirty, which is actually a good thing, tells you no one was inside messing around. It looks to all original.

I'll bet this is the first time it has run in decades. Just goes to show you they built (made in the USA) really good stuff back then, built for the long haul, repairable, to last many generations.

73, Richard AG5M


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Re: Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

 

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Very good Richard, but what all did you manage to receive, and how did it sound??? Good luck

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard AG5M via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 5:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

?

I had fun this morning. I started up my 1952 Hallicrafters S-40B receiver today, very carefully. I first cleaned the controls, then plugged in the receiver with my Variac and Dim-Bulb-Tester in line. Slowly brought the voltage up listening for hum, watching for smoke. There was a very slight 60 Hz hum at the beginning but that went away.

It's working on 80 volts right now. I thought it best not to bring it up to 110 VAC, the standard household voltage that was common in the 1950s. Here at the house I have 122 VAC. I left it running for over an hour, nothing bad happened.

So given that, I'll go ahead and replace all the capacitors (ordered Harbach) check for out of tolerance resistors, etc. Clean it up. It's really dirty, which is actually a good thing, tells you no one was inside messing around. It looks to all original.

I'll bet this is the first time it has run in decades. Just goes to show you they built (made in the USA) really good stuff back then, built for the long haul, repairable, to last many generations.

73, Richard AG5M

On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 03:04:45 PM PDT, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:

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Hello all, this being my first post here.? I recently acquired a Hallicrafters S40-B receiver from a dear friend who went SK.? I had promised to restore it for him, so even though he is gone, I'll keep my promise.? From the looks of it it's all original with no one ever having been inside it, unused for unknown amount of time.? Manufactured Nov. 17, 1952.? Even had the original manual in it.? So what you see is 1952 dirt and a lot of old paper caps, etc.? I'm an old timer, licensed in 1963, so tube rigs are not new to me.? I have not plugged it in yet, and yes, I know all about Dim-Bulb-Testers, Variacs, etc.? I have analog and digital meters, AF and RF generators, O'Scope, tube testers, etc.? Just looking for some up front advice from anyone who has been down this path before with this or similar Hallicrafters receivers, what to watch out for, anything special to think about?? Thank you, 73, Richard AG5M


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don??? va3drl


Re: Hallicrafters S40-B Restoration Advice

 
Edited

I had fun this morning. I started up my 1952 Hallicrafters S-40B receiver today, very carefully. I first cleaned the controls, then plugged in the receiver with my Variac and Dim-Bulb-Tester in line. Slowly brought the voltage up listening for hum, watching for smoke. There was a very slight 60 Hz hum at the beginning but that went away.

It's working on 80 volts right now. I thought it best not to bring it up to 110 VAC, the standard household voltage that was common in the 1950s. Here at the house I have 122 VAC. I left it running for over an hour, nothing bad happened.

So given that, I'll go ahead and replace all the capacitors (ordered Harbach) check for out of tolerance resistors, etc. Clean it up. It's really dirty, which is actually a good thing, tells you no one was inside messing around. It looks to all original.

I'll bet this is the first time it has run in decades. Just goes to show you they built (made in the USA) really good stuff back then, built for the long haul, repairable, to last many generations.

73, Richard AG5M


On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 03:04:45 PM PDT, Richard AG5M via groups.io <ag5m@...> wrote:


Hello all, this being my first post here.? I recently acquired a Hallicrafters S40-B receiver from a dear friend who went SK.? I had promised to restore it for him, so even though he is gone, I'll keep my promise.? From the looks of it it's all original with no one ever having been inside it, unused for unknown amount of time.? Manufactured Nov. 17, 1952.? Even had the original manual in it.? So what you see is 1952 dirt and a lot of old paper caps, etc.? I'm an old timer, licensed in 1963, so tube rigs are not new to me.? I have not plugged it in yet, and yes, I know all about Dim-Bulb-Testers, Variacs, etc.? I have analog and digital meters, AF and RF generators, O'Scope, tube testers, etc.? Just looking for some up front advice from anyone who has been down this path before with this or similar Hallicrafters receivers, what to watch out for, anything special to think about?? Thank you, 73, Richard AG5M


Re: WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

 

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Nick, well maybe you can ask some SX-23 owner to take some pictures for you. Other than that, any reasonable meter is better than none at least for now .

If you go to swaps, with a picture you might have a lucky day while going thru odds and sods .. “one man’s junk…”

Good ludk

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick, W1NJC via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 12:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

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Don,

The original is completely absent.? All I have are some pictures that I found online and one from a guy at ARF.?

?

I did verify that the meter drive circuit works by wiring up the meter from a Johnson Matchbox.? I adjusted no signal = full scale and as I tune a strong signal, the needle moves to the left...

?

I'm also chasing down a distortion issue with (I think) the 6SQ7 detector circuit, so the radio is open and on its side again :)


--
don??? va3drl


Re: WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

 

I have a few edge wise meters in the junk box, I'll take a look at what I have and get back to you here.

K2WH


Re: WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

 

Don,
The original is completely absent.? All I have are some pictures that I found online and one from a guy at ARF.?
?
I did verify that the meter drive circuit works by wiring up the meter from a Johnson Matchbox.? I adjusted no signal = full scale and as I tune a strong signal, the needle moves to the left...
?
I'm also chasing down a distortion issue with (I think) the 6SQ7 detector circuit, so the radio is open and on its side again :)


Re: Wanted Halli Spinner Knob

 

Yup!
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Get in line and good luck!
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You'll have an easier time getting a machinist to make you one!
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Re: WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

 

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Nick, do you have any of the original meter ,or is it all gone?

Other Hallicrafters meters of that vintage might be the best bet, but ?I know little[nothing] about the differences.

Good luck, hope you manage to find something to make her smile!

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick, W1NJC via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 3:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

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Thanks, guys.? Anyone know where to find one of these backward meters?? I've seen some posts around where people claim you can adjust a regular "left zero" meter to become a "right zero" using the internal or backside adjust.? Maybe better to start with a "center-zero" meter since it's only half the distance to the goal.

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I thought about the upside-down method, and it may work.? The angle of the needle will be wrong though.

_._,_._,_


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don??? va3drl


Re: WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

 

Thanks, guys.? Anyone know where to find one of these backward meters?? I've seen some posts around where people claim you can adjust a regular "left zero" meter to become a "right zero" using the internal or backside adjust.? Maybe better to start with a "center-zero" meter since it's only half the distance to the goal.
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I thought about the upside-down method, and it may work.? The angle of the needle will be wrong though.


Re: WTB/Info SX-23 S meter

 

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With no power it should?be to the far right. After power up it should slowly move to the left.?


Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Nick, W1NJC via groups.io <njc@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 11:24 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] WTB/Info SX-23 S meter
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This is a long shot, but I need the S meter for the SX-23 I've restored.? It looks like maybe a fairly standard round meter could be made to work.? It's a 1mA full scale type, however I've discovered that the original seems to have mechanical zero on the right instead of the left.? That is, the maximum current through the meter is when the RF signal is at minimum.? As the RF signal increases, the meter current goes down.
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Does anyone have any info on this meter, or better, have one laying around?? Barring that, how about any ideas on how I could get some kind of meter into this radio which looks decent and is functional?
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Thanks,
Nick W1NJC