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Re: Der Loudenboomer!
Just a thought but if it is indeed choke input, you might consider putting the choke on the negative side if a bridge, or the center tap if otherwise. That way, way less voltage across the choke.
Jeep K3HVG
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Re: SR-75 transceiver notes
开云体育I have not looked? but suspect it's on worldradiohistory.org? perfectly enormous amount of stuff there? -------- Original message -------- From: Jeffrey Benedict <raoul@...> Date: 10/22/22 6:37 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SR-75 transceiver notes [Edited Message Follows] Looking around, I found a contemporaneous review of the SR-75 from "Radio and Television News" of April 1951. ?The whole magazine isn't too big so I'm going to UL the whole the . ?The review is in the middle of the magazine and there is other cool stuff. There is an article about the "new" ham tickets of 1951 including Novice, Technician, General (and Conditional), Advanced and Extra. It's an interesting look back in time. I will UL it to the file section.Jeff K7AIL |
Re: SR-75 transceiver notes
Looking around, I found a contemporaneous review of the SR-75 from "Radio and Television News" of April 1951. ?The whole magazine isn't too big so I'm going to UL the whole the . ?The review is in the middle of the magazine and there is other cool stuff. There is an article about the "new" ham tickets of 1951 including Novice, Technician, General (and Conditional), Advanced and Extra. It's an interesting look back in time. I will UL it to the file section.
Jeff K7AIL |
Der Loudenboomer!
Ok,
I am going to probably show my ignorance of choke input power supplies but here goes!! I am rebuilding my HT45 power supply.? My HT45 is Hallicrafters branded but probably like many, has the Radio Industries PS-2A power supply. I am guessing that Hallicrafters probably had a LOT of them laying around and used them until the supply was exhausted and then started putting their own name on them.? No matter, there doesn't appear to be any electrical difference. Testing mine, I have noticed that if I use only the existing 210K ohm total bleeder resistors (series 100k + 100k + 10K), I hear what is best described as a faint "clicking" sound in the choke!? And the voltage is upwards of 3750V.? (too high in my book) Although I don't see any discussion of it in the manual, the schematic shows the 4-16H (swinging) choke with what I would call an "arc-gap" (maybe internal) for protecting the choke (I guess) . With no load (but with the 210K resistors) on the power supply the voltage is a little more than 3700V.? If I add some load (an additional 50K like an idling 3-400) drawing a total of 87 ma, The voltage drops to about 3460v and the clicking stops! And before someone tells me how a choke input power supply works (needs a minimum load etc)? I did read the handbook discussion on choke input power supplies! My question (and I'm hoping Walt jumps in here) concerns the jumper on the back of the HT45.? This terminal allows "shorting" across a 150 OHM resistor in the 3-400 cathode circuit that is there to increase bias and reduce cathode current during STBY. The manual talks about using a T/R relay controlled by PTT from the exciter with additional contacts for this purpose.? This is also done with the HT33 I have and many other amplifiers. (Note 5.) I am just wondering what to expect with the reduction?? I have experimented with the power supply a little and have discovered that with the current swinging choke I have, the existing 210K ohms aren't enough, an additional 100K isn't enough, and I had to put another 100K in parallel to get the choke to stop "ticking" 210K + 100K + 100K? all in parallel (about 40K) produced enough current to stop the ticking and clicking and put the output at 3460V with 122VAC on the primary. Anyone have experience with one of these? -- 73/Rick WA6III __________________________________ No critters were injured transmitting with Hallicrafters transmitters except the ones that wandered into the final amp cage Bug-Motel!! Bugs check-in, but they don't check-out! |
Re: SR-75 transceiver notes
YES, it was an exciting time to be a new ham. The war was over, television was just getting a good start, telephone service to a home was sparse as it was usually a party line, private phone service was rare. So here comes Ham Radio as an Unlimited method to contact the world at any time of day or night, using that special method of communication “Morse Code”. The common excited comments were “I worked California, I worked Canada, I worked Maine! YES, it was very exciting and provided a lifelong love for Ham Radio! It was a Great Time to be a new Ham.
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Re: SR-75 transceiver notes
开云体育C. 1951 the S 38B was about $40 and the SR 75 about $80.? I don't know what that included in the way of accessories, extra coils, etc.? I got a brand new S 38b when I was a kid,? I don't remember it came with anything except an instruction book. -------- Original message -------- From: Jeffrey Benedict <raoul@...> Date: 10/21/22 10:59 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SR-75 transceiver notes That's kinda cool! ?Those days were kinda different for starting hams. ? Does anyone know the difference in price between a S-38 and this radio? Depending on price, it may have been cheaper to use and S-38 and make some sort of a 10 watt transmitter. But, again, that might be a little bit out of the ability range of a teen aged novice, especially one without a club or elmer. |
Re: SR-75 transceiver notes
That's kinda cool! ?Those days were kinda different for starting hams. ? Does anyone know the difference in price between a S-38 and this radio? Depending on price, it may have been cheaper to use and S-38 and make some sort of a 10 watt transmitter. But, again, that might be a little bit out of the ability range of a teen aged novice, especially one without a club or elmer. |
Re: SR-75 transceiver notes
Hi Roger That is a great story and I've never seen one of those in person either. It certainly does sound like it was "meant to be" with your ownership. 7050 is a good spot for such a radio and I have no doubt you'll be successful there. Id love to work your station! Best 73 John k5mo On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:43 PM Roger Shultz via <nj2r=[email protected]> wrote:
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SR-75 transceiver notes
开云体育I’d known of the SR-75 for a long time as is it shown in the Chuck Dachis book but I’d never seen one though possibly passed them at swaps and thought, “just another S-38B”. ? So, at the Chelsea, Michigan swap in May of this year, there it was on a table. While I do not need any more radios, this one was worth the fun to see if it could get going. ? The SR-75 as I mentioned is a S-38B but cleverly a 10 watt crystal controlled transmitter is incorporated by adding a 12BA6 crystal oscillator and using the 50L6 audio amplifier as a RF amplifier. It has a keying relay to key the cathode of the 50L6 and unlike many keys of that era only 3 volts is present on the key because two D cells are used to provide the relay voltage. On the back of the radio is Plate tuning, Antenna loading, a switch to change the oscillator to allow 11/10 meter operation and a 5 pin jack for monitoring plate current and attaching the key. There is a single pigtail antenna wire that as shown in the manual that connects to a random wire or a balanced line to a resonant dipole. ? The SR-75 uses 4 different plug-in coils and uses crystals, 3.5 MHz for 80 meters or 7 MHz for the remaining bands. I was fortunate that mine came with the 80 meter coil and a crystal on 3555 KHz ? I brought up the SR-75 on a Variac and to my surprise it received pretty well since it appeared to have never had a part changed except for the volume control since new. The transmitter was another story and it did not work. Oddly, half of the 117Z6 rectifier was not working so there was no negative bias supply. Suspect too, though there was only minor hum, ?were the multiple electrolytics in two waxed paper cases. After getting a new rectifier I had bias voltage but decided to change the electrolytics which actually resulted in more space under the chassis. The outcome was having nearly exact tube voltage readings everywhere. ? ? Next was to wonder where in the world I’d find the phenolic 5 pin plug for the key and plate current. Lo and behold it’s really 4 pins and a 4 pin connector ( the center pin was not used) was found new on eBay to my surprise. It was a sign that this was “meant to be” as was an original manual also on eBay. ? So what was I going to do for additional coils? I’d put out a message here, on QTH, and heard from others who own the SR-75 and almost all had no coils or information except for Chris Farley KC9IEQ who had the 40. 20. and 10 meter coils. Chris graciously provided me with pictures, turn counts and even measured the inductance. With that information I went about finding the correct phenolic coil forms, spreaders and banana plugs to reproduce the coils. I made a coil winder and lucky enough had enough enamel covered wire to make the coils. Later I remade them using the original tinned copper just for appearance sake. ?I sent Chris an 80 meter coil to complete his set otherwise I have had no information on the coils had it not been for him. ? Though the radio received OK enough I went ahead and recapped the whole thing, checked resistors, did the alignment and it now receivers really well for an S-38B. ? I had a hard time getting to” know” the transmitter. What would I do to be able to read power besides measuring RMS volts on my HP-410C. I wanted to see power into a dummy load which Hallicrafters describes for the transmitter. Eventually I was seeing some power as evidenced by burning my finger from the resistor in the dummy load! With a bit of experimentation, I was able to connect a piece of RG-58 though a wattmeter and was able to get 6 to 10 watts output into a 50 ohm dummy load. The next step was to see if my off center fed dipole would be liked by the radio. On 80 meters not so much with only 2 watts output shown but on 40 meters I have a solid 10 watts with about 1 watt SWR. ? Back when I was a novice as KN8AJF, using a S-53A and Globe Scout, crystal controlled on 40 meters with a 75 foot long wire, I’d call CQ and listen all over the band for a reply. I did manage to work quite a few stations including the FCC when my second harmonic ended up on 20 meters.? My sense is that in today’s world few stations would tune off frequency and if so I’d be told I was off frequency! Another drawback of the SR-75 is there is no side tone. I admit to not being very good with a straight key anymore so I used another receiver to provide side tone. The “band” around 7050 KHz is very narrow and the bandspread of the SR-75 is pretty narrow as well so it is easy to miss a caller. I have made one contact so far just to be sure everything worked as I thought. Certainly, back in the day this could have and probably did serve as a complete novice station. Even so I am somewhat intimidated to be using it today. ? The outward condition of the radio is not at all mint though I prefer to say it has some patina with a few touchups here and there. Someone cut a hole perhaps to mount a SO-239 socket in the side but it was done so neatly I thought at first it was original. I don’t know what I will do with this now though I will likely sell it at some point. I hate to see things like this sit on a shelf. ? I still have some coil forms and a few spreaders as well as that scarce 4 pin plug for the back if anyone wants them at a small cost. I can wind coils though while they are close to original they are not as nice looking as Hallicrafters made them ? Thanks to all who have shared their SR-75 stories with me! ? 73, Roger, NJ2R ? ? |
Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
开云体育An update on this.? I removed the stripping and as far as I'm concerned the lighting looks just fine now. Will button up the front panel and call it good. That was really quite bizarre -- I was being overly-cautious because I don't like taking any pieces out of a boat anchor that look like they belong there. This appears to have been most likely a factory error, left by a Hallicrafters worker decades ago, because the petrified strip and the glue were definitely vintage. The other possibility is that the strip was originally meant to block some, but not all of the light, creating a more somber glow -- and it expanded and hardened over the years. Usually, though, these things contract with time rather than expand, so I'll put that in the category of less likely. ? Back to re-capping, etc. ? 73 – Steve, KW4H ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "KW4H via groups.io" <reedsteve@...> ? No.? The strip is mounted below the glass. ? 73 – Steve, KW4H ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> ? Could the bulbs push further in?? To maybe get beyond the edge of the glass... |
Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
开云体育No.? The strip is mounted below the glass. ? 73 – Steve, KW4H ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> ? Could the bulbs push further in?? To maybe get beyond the edge of the glass... |
Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
开云体育Gary, ? Very good points, thanks!? I took another close look at the dial, the markings, and how it’s mounted.? It seems to be original.? I can’t find any evidence that the bandspread window has been disturbed since the SX-110 was manufactured.? In any event, this will be resolved by installing some thin weatherstripping in a manner that provides a break for the dial lamps.? What would be very helpful to see is what someone else’s panel looks like (from behind) who does have the lights shining through.? However, that would require some disassembly. ? 73 – Steve, KW4H ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> ? Its been a long time but I remember my SX-110 was lit and Bill's looks really correct to me. |
Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
Its been a long time but I remember my SX-110 was lit and Bill's looks really correct to me.
I know these dials have fragile white markings after all these years and I am pretty sure I have seen repros. Could it be that yours Steve is a repro and could it be that the bottom edge is painted black whereas it should be open to let the light "edge light" like Bill suggests? 73, Gary WB6OGD |
Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
开云体育I used a SX-110 for my Novice station receiver back in ‘67, and it was in mint condition, only a few years old at the time.,As I recall the slide rule dial is illuminated from the lower aspect of the dial glass by 2 lamps, but they were not very bright and gave a greenish tint, probably due to the passage of the incandescent light passing through the dial ?glass. I assume that was the best way they could position the lamps so they wouldnt interfere with the dial cord and pointer, coming down from the top of the glass.?Bob K3AC On Oct 16, 2022, at 7:38 PM, Bob <W4JFABob@...> wrote:
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Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
Well, the plot thickens.? I pulled the front panel and the spacer is almost certainly factory -- it's quite brittle and was attached to the front panel using very old glue (it started falling apart after I pulled the panel).? It's a solid strip and as you can tell by the photos totally blocked the light from the bulbs.? I'll replace it using sections of strips to allow light to come through.? I'm voting for a probable factory defect on this one.? Weird! 73 - Steve, KW4H
------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, October 16th, 2022 at 4:32 PM, wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> wrote:
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Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
开云体育Well, this particular SX-110 appears to have been untouched since being built, and it was even stored in the original box and came with an original service manual.? The factory seal was still on the bottom of the cabinet. ?Nevertheless, I think I’ll pull the front panel off to see what the heck is going on behind there.? I agree with you – the lights should shine through.? The spacer (what I can see of it) appears to be solid. ? 73 – Steve, KW4H ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of wb6ogd <garywinblad@...> ? I am not sure but could someone have replaced the spacer? Could the original spacer been clear and now it isn't. ? I assure you the dial should be lit. 73, Gary WB6OGD ?
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Re: SX-110 Dial Lamp Mystery
I can only guess that there was a design update but they forgot about the lamps. As they were built the person installing the lamps did so without being told not to. Then got to the next step and that builder just let it be. That's only a guess. Bob. W4JFA? On Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 7:22 PM KW4H via <reedsteve=[email protected]> wrote:
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