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I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. We are now in the third day, more than 48 hours, of no messages coming into or being sent from this listserv. I have tried all I can to? reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help" material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. None of the suggestions made are pertinent as I am the listowner. I know to do all that is suggested: refresh browser, clean cache.
Here is the URL of the listserv:
Here is the email:
The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another. It's supportive and we read together and discuss books and movies by women.
Sincerely, Ellen Moody
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Have you confirmed that people are sending messages? My lists tend to go dead on holidays.
Sharon
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On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:44 AM, Ellen Moody <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. We are now in the third day, more than 48 hours, of no messages coming into or being sent from this listserv. I have tried all I can to reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help" material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. None of the suggestions made are pertinent as I am the listowner. I know to do all that is suggested: refresh browser, clean cache.
Here is the URL of the listserv:
Here is the email:
WomenwritersThroughTheAges@...
The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another. It's supportive and we read together and discuss books and movies by women.
Sincerely,
Ellen Moody
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Ellen
It may not have anything to do with Yahoo as it may simply be that no one is interested in the group especially at this time of year and it does take awhile to build up a group. I would suggest you redo the title and capitalize the W for writers as Womenwriters does not look as good as Women Writers would. Also try to attach your group URL to other groups comments section. Remember Advertise Advertise Advertise is the only way. Steve ?
On 22 November 2017 at 06:44, Ellen Moody <ellen.moody@...> wrote: I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. We are now in the third day, more than 48 hours, of no messages coming into or being sent from this listserv. I have tried all I can to? reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help" material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. None of the suggestions made are pertinent as I am the listowner. I know to do all that is suggested: refresh browser, clean cache.
Here is the URL of the listserv:
Here is the email:
The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another. It's supportive and we read together and discuss books and movies by women.
Sincerely, Ellen Moody
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Ellen, I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women
Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. You've posted about this problem in GMF's sister group at Yahoo, so hopefully you know from reading the other messages there that your group is not alone in having that problem recently. I have tried all I can to reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help"
material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. And you should also know from the messages there that Yahoo's Customer Care no longer supports Yahoo Groups, and hasn't for some time. So the answer basically is that they'll either fix it or they won't. The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another. So, now that you've visited a group on Groups.io, a service that competes with Yahoo, perhaps the time is ripe for your group to jump ship, as all of my active groups have. Come on in, the water's warm. We'll give you what advice we can on setting up your new group here and having your members and content copied over from Yahoo. /static/transferShal
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Oh I see . Transfer. I've thought of it for this group. Let me look at it later today. Thank you for the advice and showing me these forums. Ellen
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Ellen,
> I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women
> Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo.
You've posted about this problem in GMF's sister group at Yahoo, so hopefully you know from reading the other messages there that your group is not alone in having that problem recently.
> I have tried all I can to? reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help"
> material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help.
And you should also know from the messages there that Yahoo's Customer Care no longer supports Yahoo Groups, and hasn't for some time. So the answer basically is that they'll either fix it or they won't.
> The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another.
So, now that you've visited a group on Groups.io, a service that competes with Yahoo, perhaps the time is ripe for your group to jump ship, as all of my active groups have.
Come on in, the water's warm. We'll give you what advice we can on setting up your new group here and having your members and content copied over from Yahoo.
/static/transfer
Shal
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Ellen Moody posts many posts to her own lists and I suspect she has been posting and they have not been posted to the list archives and members.
Ellen, have you tried to post from the web home page of the list rather than via email as this sometimes will work. Also is your email address accepted by Yahoo, they sometimes block emails for issues like bouncing and the email does not have to be bouncing for this reason. It would be a very good idea to back this list up on Groups.IO and have the archives and membership transferred. One certainly does not have the problem of reaching a human being in the Groups.IO world. One person, Mark, runs circles around the Yahoo, Oath, Verizon megalith "competition" in the world of groups.
Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@...
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, The Surferr wrote: Ellen
It may not have anything to do with Yahoo as it may simply be that no one is
interested in the group especially at this time of year and it does take awhile to
build up a group. I would suggest you redo the title and capitalize the W for writers
as Womenwriters does not look as good as Women Writers would. Also try to attach your
group URL to other groups comments section. Remember Advertise Advertise Advertise is
the only way.
Steve ?
On 22 November 2017 at 06:44, Ellen Moody <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women Writers
through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. We are now in the third day, more
than 48 hours, of no messages coming into or being sent from this
listserv. I have tried all I can to? reach someone at Yahoo, but the
"help" material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to
help. None of the suggestions made are pertinent as I am the listowner. I
know to do all that is suggested: refresh browser, clean cache.
Here is the URL of the listserv:
Here is the email:
WomenwritersThroughTheAges@...
The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another. It's
supportive and we read together and discuss books and movies by women.
Sincerely,
Ellen Moody
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I could not have said this better myself and I totally agree.
Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@...
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Shal Farley wrote: Ellen,
I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women
Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. You've posted about this problem in GMF's sister group at Yahoo, so hopefully you know from reading the other messages there that your group is not alone in having that problem recently.
I have tried all I can to reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help"
material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. And you should also know from the messages there that Yahoo's Customer Care no longer supports Yahoo Groups, and hasn't for some time. So the answer basically is that they'll either fix it or they won't.
The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another. So, now that you've visited a group on Groups.io, a service that competes with Yahoo, perhaps the time is ripe for your group to jump ship, as all of my active groups have.
Come on in, the water's warm. We'll give you what advice we can on setting up your new group here and having your members and content copied over from Yahoo.
/static/transfer
Shal
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I have answered. Could you tell me what is oi forum and Groups.IO world? I know nothing about it -- and I thought this was a yahoo listserv, and now see it's a Group.io list. Before proceeding I need more information as well as detailed instructions on how to.
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Ellen
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Ellen, your group is not the only group experiencing this
problem.
I have at least two groups that I know of that are having the
same thing.
It started out Monday morning for me, the two groups that I see
this happening on were still sending me notices that there were
messages to approve, as late as Monday morning, two days ago.
But, when I approved them, nothing went through the groups.
Now, as of yesterday morning, I am not receiving any notices of
pending messages.
I attempted to send messages to the groups myself, again
nothing.? No notices of pending messages and nothing showing
pending messages on the websites of the groups.
I attempted to post messages from the websites of the groups,
again nothing.
I sent messages to the -owner addresses of both groups, again
nothing.
The groups are normally quite active, so I am sure I have a lot
of members who are seriously wondering what has happened to all my
moderators.
Marlin
On 11/22/2017 5:44 AM, Ellen Moody
wrote:
I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my
Women Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. We are now
in the third day, more than 48 hours, of no messages coming
into or being sent from this listserv. I have tried all I can
to? reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help" material is not
designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. None of
the suggestions made are pertinent as I am the listowner. I
know to do all that is suggested: refresh browser, clean
cache.
Sincerely,
Ellen Moody
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Ellen, Could you tell me what is oi forum and Groups.IO world? As I mentioned, Groups.io is a service that competes with Yahoo Groups. Here's some more background information: /static/aboutOn that page follow the link to the Groups.io announcement if you're interested in the history of it. Before proceeding I need more information as well as detailed
instructions on how to. The instructions available through the transfer link are pretty detailed. Let us know what questions you have after reading them: /static/transferOne thing I should have mentioned is that the "transfer" process makes no changes to your Yahoo Group. If you decide to transfer your group you should let your Yahoo Group members know what you're about to do. Otherwise the only thing they'll see is the "welcome" message from Groups.io, and that may confuse them if you haven't told them to expect it. Shal
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All right. Thank you. I am not digitally expert but tonight after supper, all? work put away, I will try to look into it. I may come back with questions!?
I am glad the Yahoo group may not go away as it has thousands of postings, a few hundred pictures probably, files and so on.?I did not open it myself: I inherited it as I did two other yahoo listservs when the owner/moderators tired of them.
?I hope all have a good day tomorrow -- to?those who keep the US Thanksgiving. Ellen
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Ellen,
> Could you tell me what is oi forum and Groups.IO world?
As I mentioned, Groups.io is a service that competes with Yahoo Groups. Here's some more background information:
/static/about
On that page follow the link to the Groups.io announcement if you're interested in the history of it.
> Before proceeding I need more information as well as detailed
> instructions on how to.
The instructions available through the transfer link are pretty detailed. Let us know what questions you have after reading them:
/static/transfer
One thing I should have mentioned is that the "transfer" process makes no changes to your Yahoo Group. If you decide to transfer your group you should let your Yahoo Group members know what you're about to do. Otherwise the only thing they'll see is the "welcome" message from Groups.io, and that may confuse them if you haven't told them to expect it.
Shal
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Ellen, I said: If you decide to transfer your group you should let your Yahoo Group
members know what you're about to do. Now I'm laughing at myself - I forgot that you got here because that's the thing you're unable to do in your Yahoo group. Unless you have an alternative way of getting in touch with those members. Shal
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Let me tell you from one example, how different things are in the world of Groups.IO. One Saturday night I went to Groups.io and it did not exist. This was quite a while ago. I found Mark Fletchers email address and let him know about the problem. Within two yours I and group owners lists had an apology and the problem was fixed and Mark, as I understand it, was on his last day of vacation in Paris, France. Anyone know any stories like that from their encounters with services or businesses? I cannot think of a better discussion group service than Groups.IO and I have experience with quite a few of them.
Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@...
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Marlin47 wrote: Ellen, your group is not the only group experiencing this problem.
I have at least two groups that I know of that are having the same thing.
It started out Monday morning for me, the two groups that I see this happening on were still sending me
notices that there were messages to approve, as late as Monday morning, two days ago.
But, when I approved them, nothing went through the groups.
Now, as of yesterday morning, I am not receiving any notices of pending messages.
I attempted to send messages to the groups myself, again nothing.? No notices of pending messages and
nothing showing pending messages on the websites of the groups.
I attempted to post messages from the websites of the groups, again nothing.
I sent messages to the -owner addresses of both groups, again nothing.
The groups are normally quite active, so I am sure I have a lot of members who are seriously wondering
what has happened to all my moderators.
Marlin
On 11/22/2017 5:44 AM, Ellen Moody wrote:
I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women Writers through the Ages
listserv at Yahoo. We are now in the third day, more than 48 hours, of no messages coming into
or being sent from this listserv. I have tried all I can to? reach someone at Yahoo, but the
"help" material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. None of the
suggestions made are pertinent as I am the listowner. I know to do all that is suggested:
refresh browser, clean cache.
Sincerely,
Ellen Moody
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When I first saw this thread, I thought, what is this conversation doing here? I don't even want to have to THINK about yahoo groups any more, they're so bad. I even requested that the thread be deleted as OT. But now I see you are here BECAUSE of yahoo's failings.
Yahoo, to me, is so bad that I avoid it now at all costs. I've been running a groups.io group for a couple of years now, after having transferred from yahoo groups, and would never dream of going back. Yahoo, to me, is like the Dark Ages. I checked out your group and would be interested in joining, but not if it's still in yahoo. That's how bad yahoo is compared to groups.io! I avoid joining groups that are there!
Besides the infinitely better ease of use, and countless extra features (none of which you have to use if you don't want to), is the level of support already mentioned. I feel like I have a personal friend in Mark Fletcher, who runs it, because he is sooo responsive, perceptive, and dedicated (not to mention smart - he does things right).
You would have to write a book on how much better it is here. I shudder to even think about going into my old yahoo account any more.
Make the move! You'll get lots of help here. I would do it soon, too. From the sound of this thread, things are going downhill fast over at yahoo.
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J
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J, From the sound of this thread, things are going downhill fast over
at yahoo. Apparently Mark's getting more than a few questions about it. Shal
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J, I said: Apparently Mark's getting more than a few questions about it.
And Yahoo's Help community too. Shal
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On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 05:21 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Apparently Mark's getting more than a few questions about it.
Maybe the patient is finally dying....and good riddance! ? -- J
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Perhaps, but hopefully not too quickly. There could be hundreds of thousands of Y! groups looking for a new home all at once...
Drew
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On 11/22/17 20:35, J_Catlady wrote: On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 05:21 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Apparently Mark's getting more than a few questions about it.
Maybe the patient is finally dying....and good riddance!
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J
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What a catastrophe! ;)
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It does seem as if the patient is dying limb by limb or group by group.? Each time I go over to a Yahoo group of groups and another still open for moderators, or one moderators write on, I read of "another group down."
It's after midnight and too late to do anything now. I? did go look and am willing to try this even though I can't tell the people at this list I'm doing this. As far as I can read, the allows me to transfer the files, the pictures, and postings from Yahoo to this other place and it provides the same services. There's a lot of stuff on Wwtta so I'm guessing that is big. Who is running it? someone has to provide the space - and pay for it. Or it comes from google?
I am digitally challenged but can do things if given instructions. when I look at what is called the home page I see no instructions
but I do find them here:
I am now taking the first step. Let's see if Wwtta takes the transfer groups URL.
Ellen
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:17 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: What a catastrophe! ;)
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