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I discovered that my members do not get the set of buttons and boxes that allow them to SEARCH MESSAGES until I go into Admin/Settings/Message Policies and click on "Allow Members to Download Archive".
When I do this, in addition to giving them the SEARCH facility,? it also shows a button that says "Export Data" that allows them apparently to download the entire message archive.??? These are really two different things and should be addressed as such in the SETTINGS.? So there should be two separate SETTINGS options for this.? However.......

.... I'm confused about this because in the Group Managers Forum group I am a member, I have the ability to SEARCH messages, but I don't see any button that allows me to "Export Data".? That is what I would like for my group as well.? (If somebody needs to download the entire archive, they should request this of a moderator or owner.)??? Can some moderator or owner of this group tell me what settings you have used in GMF to allow members to search messages but does not give members the ability to "Export Data"?

The ability of members to SEARCH messages is a major reason why we left Yahoo Groups so this is very important to us.

Can some moderator or owner of this group tell me what settings you have used in GMF to allow members to search messages but does not give members the ability to "Export Data"?

The ability of members to SEARCH messages is a major reason why we left Yahoo Groups so this is very important to us.

I think they don't know where the search button is! ?Everyone who is signed in (for restricted groups) can search.?
Important point: if your group is private, and archives only available to members, they must login.

Here's info on the search engine:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Using-the-Search-Engine

As for export data, that's an admin function unless you choose to allow members to do it.

Frances




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On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:17 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:

I discovered that my members do not get the set of buttons and boxes that allow them to SEARCH MESSAGES until I go into Admin/Settings/Message Policies and click on "Allow Members to Download Archive".

Mark -- Can you send us a screenshot? If you can read the messages at all, the Search button should be there.

Bruce

Bruce,

?? It appears that the actions of making the settings change to 1)? giving members the ability (under Message Policies) to "Download Archive"? then 2) toggling this off? has ended up giving members the ability to search messages.???? I have 2 accounts for my group that I use to test this, one for my husband's email with MEMBER rights and one for myself with OWNER rights.????? After I toggled off the "Download Archive" setting for members, my husband's MEMBER account now sees the set of buttons and boxes related to SEARCH messages but without the button for "EXPORT DATA".?? This is what I was trying to achieve. ? I am going to survey my members to see if they can't SEARCH messages.

? I know where to find the SEARCH button from my experience as an OWNER.? These SEARCH buttons and boxes are at the top of the message list.??? Unfortunately at this moment, Bruce, I can no longer provide you a screen shot of the bizarre screen I saw, in the member account,? where there were no SEARCH related buttons or boxes at the top of the screen.??? This sounds like a BUG to me. ? The SEARCH button definitely was not there...

thanks,
Mark

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:59 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:

After I toggled off the "Download Archive" setting for members, my husband's MEMBER account now sees the set of buttons and boxes related to SEARCH messages but without the button for "EXPORT DATA".?? This is what I was trying to achieve. ? I am going to survey my members to see if they can't SEARCH messages.

Mark -- Glad you were able to work this out!

? I know where to find the SEARCH button from my experience as an OWNER.? These SEARCH buttons and boxes are at the top of the message list.??? Unfortunately at this moment, Bruce, I can no longer provide you a screen shot of the bizarre screen I saw, in the member account,? where there were no SEARCH related buttons or boxes at the top of the screen.??? This sounds like a BUG to me. ? The SEARCH button definitely was not there...

I suspect we could be dealing with some artifact of browser caching, but who knows. It's going to be difficult to track down a bug that you are currently unable to demonstrate.

Regards,
Bruce