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Concurrent usage #yahoo #transfer #howto


 

Greetings,

I am a moderator on a Yahoo group which is converting to groups.io, as likely many of you are or have been.

Our group is a cooperative with annual membership.? We are doing the changeover at renewal so our renewing members will be invited to join our groups.io group.

At the same time, we have a grace period for our membership which, in effect, should keep anyone who has NOT renewed but is still active in the Yahoo group informed of group messages.

Is there any way to configure both groups to forward emails to the other group?? I tried the straightforward and simple method of inviting the yahoo group account (via its email address) to join the groups.io group, but it is deemed an invalid email address.? Does anyone have a suggestion on how to accomplish this??

It's not a long term thing, but we really need to serve all of our members to the best of our ability until the end of September.


 

Gary,

Our group is a cooperative with annual membership. We are doing the changeover at renewal so our renewing members will be invited to join our groups.io group.
Is there a reason not to use the Transfer agent to copy all of the current members (and content) to the Groups.io group; then at the end of September you can purge those that didn't renew. I have to do something like this in my PTA group each fall as Freshman parents replace last year's Senior parents (new memberships begin as early
as July 1st, old memberships end on October 31st).

Is there any way to configure both groups to forward emails to the
other group? ... Does anyone have a suggestion on how to accomplish
this?
The only thing I can think of is to have one person who is a member of both groups responsible for the cross-posting.

It may be possible to automate that somewhat with filter rules and forward actions, depending on your email user interface, but you'd need to somehow prevent having a loop where messages ping-pong back and forth indefinitely.

Shal


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Well, I already started the transfer - without members - and I don't know if I can go back and transfer members after the fact.? That would be an option if it's possible.? I'll look into that.


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Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about doing a second transfer. The easiest thing to do, would probably be just to invite members over. Keep in mind, if you pay the 10 bucks, and do a direct dad, you can submit 20 addresses at once. The same thing goes for sending out invitations.

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On Jul 28, 2018, at 2:58 PM, Gary Vaught <gdv.pops@...> wrote:

Well, I already started the transfer - without members - and I don't know if I can go back and transfer members after the fact.? That would be an option if it's possible.? I'll look into that.


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I believe, if I’m reading the policy correctly, 20 is correct but only 20 within a 24 hour period.

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Al

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Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about doing a second transfer. The easiest thing to do, would probably be just to invite members over. Keep in mind, if you pay the 10 bucks, and do a direct dad, you can submit 20 addresses at once. The same thing goes for sending out invitations.

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On Jul 28, 2018, at 2:58 PM, Gary Vaught <gdv.pops@...> wrote:

Well, I already started the transfer - without members - and I don't know if I can go back and transfer members after the fact.? That would be an option if it's possible.? I'll look into that.


 

I think I'll just go with that.? I'd LOVE to hit that 20 invitation max in any given day!

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On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 5:42 PM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057@...> wrote:

I believe, if I’m reading the policy correctly, 20 is correct but only 20 within a 24 hour period.

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Al

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Gary,

Well, I already started the transfer - without members - and I don't know if I can go back and transfer members after the fact.
You can. Or before you say "go" in Step 4 you can change any of the content checkboxes and Update the transfer instructions.

If the content transfer completes without the members (their email addresses from the Y!Group) added to the Groups.io group then their content is disassociated from their account, meaning that they can't edit or delete their content. That's true whether you transfer them later or invite them, or however they join later.

Shal




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On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 04:03 PM, Gary Vaught wrote:
Well, I already started the transfer - without members - and I don't know if I can go back and transfer members after the fact.?

I highly recommend that you NOT do that. All member content will be associated with you (the owner's) account; and although you can manually reassign much of it back to the individual members later, it's cumbersome. See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups#FAQ?

Instead, go back to the transfer page at?/yahootransfer??and select the group from the In Process drop-down menu. Check the "transfer members" box then click on Update Transfer. You can do this at any time before Step 4 (if you've already done Step 4, then the Update Transfer button will not appear).

As for forwarding emails between groups, there is no good way to do it without risking a dupe loop. You could create an email address that posts to your new group via the email Integration (see?/g/ias-indy/integrations?) and subscribe that to your Yahoo group. But I must admit I haven't tried it, and whatever does make it over will likely be duplicated later by the transfer agent.

I think your best bet is to completely unlink the group transfer from the resubscription process. Keep them separated by a couple months and both you and your subscribers will be less confused in the long run.

Hope this helps,
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Hi, Shal, on 7/29/2018 you replied to Gary, below about a second transfer attempt.

Thank you for answering that question.

I had a similar situation.? I approved the transfer process when I realized
that I still had the "transfer members" box unchecked.?

Wondering if I could ask Groups.io to do a second transfer of the
member list for that group, I followed the instructions at the bottom
of the Groups.io notification and wrote to [email protected].??
After three weeks, still no response.

I ended up manually inviting the members of that group.? So its water
under the bridge, but I appreciate your prompt responses on this list.

Peter

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Gary,

Well, I already started the transfer - without members - and I don't know if I can go back and transfer members after the fact.

You can. Or before you say "go" in Step 4 you can change any of the content checkboxes and Update the transfer instructions.

If the content transfer completes without the members (their email addresses from the Y!Group) added to the Groups.io group then their content is disassociated from their account, meaning that they can't edit or delete their content. That's true whether you transfer them later or invite them, or however they join later.

Shal


 

Peter,

Wondering if I could ask Groups.io to do a second transfer of the
member list for that group, I followed the instructions at the bottom
of the Groups.io notification and wrote to [email protected]
After three weeks, still no response.
I realize you said it was water under the bridge, but for anyone else in that position I think the procedure is to go to the In Process page and delete the completed transfer record. Then you can initiate a new transfer.

Shal


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