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Hi, my name is Darius.
I've been struggling for he past 8 months on figuring out how I can get photos, attachments from an old Yahoo group of mine, after the whole Yahoo hack, I couldn't get back on there, and the other mods had the same issue, long story short the yahoo group has been inactive since 2011. Its still up, and I searched for it out of curiosity and found it! I was ecstatic but I couldn't get in since its restricted and requires approval to which on one has access. I've been wanting to try and at least get the photos in he group. Ive been looking everywhere for help, I asked Yahoo support via twitter and they were 0 help, I asked reddit but they laughed at me. You guys are my last hope, please help me out.

Thanks so much!!
-D

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Darius . . .

On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 12:56:27 -0700, dariusburke@... wrote:

Its still up, and I searched for it out of curiosity and found it! I was ecstatic but I couldn't get in since its restricted and requires approval to which on one has access. I've been wanting to try and at least get the photos in he group. Ive been looking everywhere for help, I asked Yahoo support via twitter and they were 0 help, I asked reddit but they laughed at me. You guys are my last hope, please help me out.
This is bad news, but here's how it looks to Yahoo and why you won't
get their help.

If you aren't a member and if it's a closed group, you would have to
have your membership approved before having access to the files and
photos. You said it was your group at one point.

Let's assume it's not your group for a moment, as it might as well not
be if you can't remember your username and password or if they don't
work.

If it's open to the public (you said it's not), and if the public has
access to those areas, then you could download them one at a time then
upload them to your new GIO group, also one at a time.

But you're not a member (from Yahoo's standpoint). So you don't have
"rights" to access the group. Yahoo won't help since it's up to the
group owner (who can't log in) to approve your membership. That's how
Yahoo looks at it.

That means you're stuck if you don't have your login information or
the same contact email address to get your credentials recovered.
Yahoo, if there was any customer support, would think you're trying to
take over the group from the legitimate owner. They won't help you do
that. They used to let someone just run a group as a supermoderator if
the owner couldn't be contacted, to continue the group. But they don't
do that anymore, and you would still have had to be a member back when
they did that. We won't even go into how you do that since you're not
viewed as a member to the system. And it's pretty much a system of
computers that you're dealing with now that they pretty much got rid
of customer service.

You could just start a new group and realize that it will take a while
to build membership. If you have old emails from your group, you could
try inviting those members to the new group.

There's no magic way to recover your access to the group if you don't
have your login credentials, or if someone hacked the group somehow
and took it over, then removed you from the group.

I'm not sure exactly what happened as you didn't give a full history
of what happened, but in any case, it looks like you don't have a way
to get to those files or photos.

Donald


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Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)
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Well do u remember back in 2012 when yahoo had that huge hack, my email was hacked sadly, I¡¯m helpless at this point, but thanks nonetheless?

could you maybe look at the group one time, that way I can stop looking for help because I know there would be no solution.?

Heres the link:?

Thanks again!
 

Darius, I think there is one way of trying to contact the current owner an email
<groupname>-owner@... This is obviously for a UK Yahoo Group
It obviously may not work if the owner is no longer active or has changed his address.

Alan

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From: "Donald Hellen" <donhellen@...>
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Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Cannot get Yahoo group content


Darius . . .

On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 12:56:27 -0700, dariusburke@... wrote:

Its still up, and I searched for it out of curiosity and found it! I was ecstatic but I couldn't get in since its restricted and requires approval to which on one has access. I've been wanting to try and at least get the photos in he group. Ive been looking everywhere for help, I asked Yahoo support via twitter and they were 0 help, I asked reddit but they laughed at me. You guys are my last hope, please help me out.
This is bad news, but here's how it looks to Yahoo and why you won't
get their help.

If you aren't a member and if it's a closed group, you would have to
have your membership approved before having access to the files and
photos. You said it was your group at one point.

Let's assume it's not your group for a moment, as it might as well not
be if you can't remember your username and password or if they don't
work.

If it's open to the public (you said it's not), and if the public has
access to those areas, then you could download them one at a time then
upload them to your new GIO group, also one at a time.

But you're not a member (from Yahoo's standpoint). So you don't have
"rights" to access the group. Yahoo won't help since it's up to the
group owner (who can't log in) to approve your membership. That's how
Yahoo looks at it.

That means you're stuck if you don't have your login information or
the same contact email address to get your credentials recovered.
Yahoo, if there was any customer support, would think you're trying to
take over the group from the legitimate owner. They won't help you do
that. They used to let someone just run a group as a supermoderator if
the owner couldn't be contacted, to continue the group. But they don't
do that anymore, and you would still have had to be a member back when
they did that. We won't even go into how you do that since you're not
viewed as a member to the system. And it's pretty much a system of
computers that you're dealing with now that they pretty much got rid
of customer service.

You could just start a new group and realize that it will take a while
to build membership. If you have old emails from your group, you could
try inviting those members to the new group.

There's no magic way to recover your access to the group if you don't
have your login credentials, or if someone hacked the group somehow
and took it over, then removed you from the group.

I'm not sure exactly what happened as you didn't give a full history
of what happened, but in any case, it looks like you don't have a way
to get to those files or photos.

Donald


----------------------------------------------------


Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)
 

Darius . . .

On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:44:38 -0700, dariusburke@... wrote:

could you maybe look at the group one time, that way I can stop looking for help because I know there would be no solution.

Heres the link:
I looked at the group and there's nothing to see, no access to
anything as a non-member. I clicked join and added a note that's
required. I doubt there is anyone there who can approve the
membership. If they do, then you should be able to join also. I'll
leave the group if they approve it after looking around.

Donald


----------------------------------------------------


Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)
 

?
I have remembered that in the last few years since Yahoo was ''bought'' by verizon you do need a yahoo address to access the web-site and things like the files and photos area. Otherwise you just get email access.
?
Alan

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Cannot get Yahoo group content

Well do u remember back in 2012 when yahoo had that huge hack, my email was hacked sadly, I¡¯m helpless at this point, but thanks nonetheless?

could you maybe look at the group one time, that way I can stop looking for help because I know there would be no solution.?

Heres the link:?

Thanks again!

 

D,

I've been struggling for he past 8 months on figuring out how I can
get photos, attachments from an old Yahoo group of mine, ...
For what it is worth, this is a topic more appropriate to GMF's sister group on Yahoo Groups:


You, or someone, will need to be signed in to Yahoo, using an account which holds a membership in your group, in order to access the Photos and other members-only content.

after the whole Yahoo hack, I couldn't get back on there, ...
Why not?

Many account credentials were exposed, but that didn't of itself cause anyone to lose access to their account. For that to happen someone would have had to go into the account and change its password. So far as I know there haven't been any reports of that happening.

Verizon / Yahoo doesn't support Y!Groups anymore, but they do still offer support for account-related problems, including recovering access to your account if you've forgotten your password.


Its still up, and I searched for it out of curiosity and found it! I
was ecstatic but I couldn't get in since its restricted and requires
approval to which on one has access.
If there are truly no members of the group who can log into their Yahoo account to access the group pages, then no one will have access to its Photos or other content.

If you cannot recover access to your Yahoo account (the one that was a owner/mod of the group), and there are no other owners or mods of the group who can, then you are likely out of luck.

Shal


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On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 07:35 PM, <dariusburke@...> wrote:
Well do u remember back in 2012 when yahoo had that huge hack, my email was hacked sadly, I¡¯m helpless at this point, but thanks nonetheless?
Darius -- Like Shal, I suspect the account hacking had little to do with you losing access.

What email addresses are associated with your Yahoo account? Can you post an email to your Yahoo Mail account and receive it without bouncing? Yahoo has been deleting accounts due to inactivity lately, and we here in GMF have noticed quite a few of them beginning to bounce posts that are sent to them. If the only email address associated with your Yahoo account is a now-defunct Yahoo Mail one, that may be why you have lost access.

Looking at your group's Message History, there have been a total of two posts in the past 11 years, and none in the past seven. If that's not "inactivity," I don't know what is.

Good luck,
Bruce
 

D,

I wrote:

If you cannot recover access to your Yahoo account (the one that was a
owner/mod of the group), and there are no other owners or mods of the
group who can, then you are likely out of luck.
That was too pessimistic - there is another path.

If you still have access to any email address (Yahoo Mail or not) that is subscribed to the group then you can create a new Yahoo account, and connect your group membership(s) to the new account via that email address. All that is required is that you be able to receive and send messages from that email address, and that it be already in the group's Manage Members list.

There are some tricks involved in doing so, as Yahoo has changed some features of the account system and they have not updated Yahoo Groups to be fully compatible with the changes.


Shal


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D, Bruce,

Bruce wrote:

Yahoo has been deleting accounts due to inactivity lately, and
we here in GMF have noticed quite a few of them beginning to bounce
posts that are sent to them.
There are actually two separate activity limits.

The first is for use of the Yahoo Mail address. If you don't access the Yahoo Mail interface for more than a few months they may make the address inactive, after that point messages sent to that address will be rejected ("bounced"). I don't know if accessing your Yahoo Mail via a POP/IMAP client is sufficient to keep the address alive.

The second is a for use of your Yahoo Account. If you don't access anywhere on Yahoo (Groups, Mail, Sports, Finance, etc.) for more than a year they may delete the account and recycle (let someone new have) the user name. Before that point, if your Yahoo Mail address has been made inactive you can reactivate it simply by visiting the Yahoo Mail pages (while signed in under the corresponding Yahoo Account).

If it has been so long since your last sign in (to anywhere on Yahoo) that the account itself has been deleted then the account recovery procedures will probably not work. But it is worth a try, as they don't necessarily recycle the user name immediately on expiration of the account.

That still leaves the other path open, if you have a working email address subscribed to the group.

Shal


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